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Done. Miranda's breasts are still nice but smaller still. Noticeably smaller. Her butt is also less rounded again. I'll upload the MOD soon. I'm aiming to make her more like her design spec (Yvonne Strahovsky) who does not have a bubble butt and does not sport enormous boobs.

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Well, your Hospital Ashley is working perfectly, but her texture still needs some work. It makes shadows between her boobs where it shouldn't. That's why I thought there was no change and it looks ugly to be honest. I know you are better with models than textures, but the problem (although very small) remains.

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ShepASSassin wrote...

Well, your Hospital Ashley is working perfectly, but her texture still needs some work. It makes shadows between her boobs where it shouldn't. That's why I thought there was no change and it looks ugly to be honest. I know you are better with models than textures, but the problem (although very small) remains.


I've actually worked on that but until the DX SDK is installed it isn't ready for prime time.  I basically eliminated those inappropriate shadows between the breasts.

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@Getorex

Am starting to suspect that there is a bug in the transfer process from PCC to UDK. If the mesh was working perfectly before with vanilla textures, there's no reason that all of a sudden UV triangles should go awry.

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Son of a...I give up. I cannot install the damn Direct X SDK. No matter what I uninstall, no matter how I edit the registry, it refuses to install. Someone else is going to have to do the texture edits to go with my meshes. Goddamn microsoft crap.

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survivor_686 wrote...

@Getorex

Am starting to suspect that there is a bug in the transfer process from PCC to UDK. If the mesh was working perfectly before with vanilla textures, there's no reason that all of a sudden UV triangles should go awry.


I haven't run into your particular issue yet.  I ran into another issue that I'm not sure how to describe but I cannot be sure whether it was a 3ds issue, a 3ds export issue, or a UDK import issue.

In any case, if it is a glitch, you could export it again from the game and import a fresh new psk into UDK.  The texture you are trying to use...it does actually go with the armor specifically doesn't it?  It isn't something close but not quite right?

Did you get any information or help from Ironhandjustice?

Modifié par Getorex, 26 juillet 2013 - 09:03 .


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Getorex wrote...

Son of a...I give up. I cannot install the damn Direct X SDK. No matter what I uninstall, no matter how I edit the registry, it refuses to install. Someone else is going to have to do the texture edits to go with my meshes. Goddamn microsoft crap.

Here you go. This exact way helped me on the second time.

http://blogs.msdn.co...1023-error.aspx

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@Geotorex

Hmm..no response yet. Am gonna try plan B. Import N7 Combat Engineer into 3Ds and then chop off its head.

Would it be too much to ask for a link to a good tutorial on removing segments of meshes in 3ds?

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survivor_686 wrote...

@Geotorex

Hmm..no response yet. Am gonna try plan B. Import N7 Combat Engineer into 3Ds and then chop off its head.

Would it be too much to ask for a link to a good tutorial on removing segments of meshes in 3ds?


Ah.  That could be a big deal.  You also have to remove the bones, delete the skin, rebone it (not as hard as sounds actually), and do a skin wrap on it using an Ashley body, check it to make sure it's close to perfect.

I wouldn't give up on plan A yet.  Send me the texture for the model you sent and let me see what I can see in 3ds. You may yet hear from Ironhandjustice.  He just isn't around all the time.

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OK, I am going to plan B. I cannot use the Direct X sdk tools afterall but I have a bunch of nvidia texture tools that look able to do everything needed. I'll get the Ashley romance texture in proper shape soon.

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@Getorex

Thanks for informing me!

On a lark I tried to import the psk straight up from the Ajax's PCC (not via the UDK) into the BioH_Ashley_02.pcc (the one which originally got the pink armour). Imported the same PSK for every LOD.

Same situation on squad loadout screen. Yet during gameplay her arms seem solid, yet the textures are a but muddled. As you mentioned earlier, the high definition on every LOD froze gameplay and then crashed it to desktop.

So just using the raw PDK imported just exchanges one set of problems for another:

Thank you for your offer. Here is the link for the files used. I've attached a .txt that describes what happens. Am interested to see how you fare. Take your time though.

Spectre_Ajax_For_Ashley.zip (47.1 MB)
https://mega.co.nz/#...MD-SPAgJDhtI4VU

EDIT: Just realized that the EXPLORE PCC's are used in squad loadout as well. Explains a lot...

Modifié par survivor_686, 27 juillet 2013 - 03:12 .


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OK folks, there are now two textures available to go with a couple of the mesh edits in OP. The first is a hospital tshirt texture graciously provided for your pleasure by Ottemis and the other is my first texture mod providing the topless texture for the Ashley romance body mod.

Let me know what you think.

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Starting a mod on Ashley's helmet as per prior request. I wont be totally eliminating the facemask portion of the full breather mask but I do intend to reduce its size to expose more "glass" and thus more face.

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Getorex wrote...

Starting a mod on Ashley's helmet as per prior request. I wont be totally eliminating the facemask portion of the full breather mask but I do intend to reduce its size to expose more "glass" and thus more face.


Hows this for some crazy ideas:
- Instead of modding the main blue hardsuit armour, given the level of interaction it gets in the mars mission (putting in, putting it off, getting grabbed by the robot, smashed against a shuttle, etc...)
- Mod one of the other armour to accept a helmet mesh? Maybe mod the Collector's edition (perhaps with a Ajax suit? wink, wink...)
- Replace the "mask" with one of the other armour thats has a full, transparent visor (aka the inferno armour helmet) and add some custom texture to make it fit in with the armour of your choice (insert surreptious reference to Ajax Spectre suit made by someone...wink, wink, wink)

BTW: Have succesfully imported Ashley's face psk into MAX file provided by you. I can actually see where her neck pops through...am right navigating through it and finding the element that corresponds to the collar. I can expand the entire chest area and cover up the "gaps" but I don't want to make her "fatter"

Thanks again!

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survivor_686 wrote...

Getorex wrote...

Starting a mod on Ashley's helmet as per prior request. I wont be totally eliminating the facemask portion of the full breather mask but I do intend to reduce its size to expose more "glass" and thus more face.


Hows this for some crazy ideas:
- Instead of modding the main blue hardsuit armour, given the level of interaction it gets in the mars mission (putting in, putting it off, getting grabbed by the robot, smashed against a shuttle, etc...)
- Mod one of the other armour to accept a helmet mesh? Maybe mod the Collector's edition (perhaps with a Ajax suit? wink, wink...)
- Replace the "mask" with one of the other armour thats has a full, transparent visor (aka the inferno armour helmet) and add some custom texture to make it fit in with the armour of your choice (insert surreptious reference to Ajax Spectre suit made by someone...wink, wink, wink)

BTW: Have succesfully imported Ashley's face psk into MAX file provided by you. I can actually see where her neck pops through...am right navigating through it and finding the element that corresponds to the collar. I can expand the entire chest area and cover up the "gaps" but I don't want to make her "fatter"

Thanks again!


No problem.  No need to add weight, just a few vertices moved around.  By the way, for many things like that you might want to try "soft selection" (it's down the tab on the left of the screen in 3ds).  Activate it and when you select a vertex, you will see a rainbow of colors on the surrounding vertices.  The colors indicate how much those vertices will move when you move the one you've actually selected.  It starts out with a setting of 20.  Crank it down and watch the color ring of vertices around your selected vertex shrink until it only colors a the vertices closest to the one you've selected.  Now, when you select a a vertex or several and move them, the surrounding vertices that are colored will move a little too in a smooth manner.  Doing this right can greatly reduce the amount of labor on your part.  You wont have to go in vertex by vertex and move them this way and that to make the area around it smoothly flow together.  

Just something to try and play with for future reference.  

I've just about finished expanding the visor on the default Ashley helmet and shrinking the facemask breather part.  There's no reason that I couldn't play with the other helmets too as you indicate.  Or you could give it a shot.  One thing I DO want to do with some of the other helmets is remove the sharp angles in some of the visors.  I want to make them smooth and rounded.  Sharp bends in glass is a horrible design idea in general when you want as much unobstructed visibility as possible.  Bends put distortion lines in your vision.  :huh:

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Joken wrote...

So tell me; How far away are we from being able to have this (the one on the left specifically):

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If this is already possible, how can I get this? I really HATE the existing casual outfit.

So what's the current situation regarding this?

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I have the far left uniform edited for Ashley and ready to go in but I have to find the right uniform to replace it with. I cannot simply replace the default uniform with it without causing problems. The one thing holding me back from that is that for some unknown reason, one of the pcc files that contains the default uniform, BioH_Ashley_00_NC.pcc, will not accept any other uniform than the default. It will take an edited version of the default but so far only the default. So, the other way to get the alliance uniform in is to sacrifice one of her other options, like perhaps one of her alternate appearance pack uniforms. I have one in mind to try but not everyone has the same alternate appearance packs.

What ME3 version do you have? Collectors Edition? Vanilla? If we are lucky you and I have the same set and then I could swap in the alliance uniform and give it to you and everyone else with the same set. I'll also take another run at the problem pcc mentioned above and see if I can get it in. As for hair...I have several variants I'm trying in addition to the ponytail. There is at least one pcc/location in the game where I can't just drop in a new hair as is. It looks horrible so I need to see which hairs will look good in general with transparency cut out of the hair texture.

By the way, I even have Ashley's original ME1 hair out and modified to fit her head in ME3. It is not even close to the complexity of all ME3 hairs. But I will see how it looks anyway.

Modifié par Getorex, 28 juillet 2013 - 11:40 .


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@Getorex

Here's a link from Church0071 of me3explorer:
http://me3explorer.f...t-bun-t245.html

He successfully imported her combat bun mesh and texture onto Ashley's casual and hardsuit models. He also posted up his raw files, his finished files, his meshes and his work process. Should be quite helpful.

BTW: Managed to edit her mesh to avoid the neck issue, 95% of the time. Am gonna now try and give her a helmet (inferno) and/or combat monocle. Thank you very much!

Modifié par survivor_686, 28 juillet 2013 - 02:29 .


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Getorex wrote...

I have the far left uniform edited for Ashley and ready to go in but I have to find the right uniform to replace it with. I cannot simply replace the default uniform with it without causing problems. The one thing holding me back from that is that for some unknown reason, one of the pcc files that contains the default uniform, BioH_Ashley_00_NC.pcc, will not accept any other uniform than the default. It will take an edited version of the default but so far only the default. So, the other way to get the alliance uniform in is to sacrifice one of her other options, like perhaps one of her alternate appearance pack uniforms. I have one in mind to try but not everyone has the same alternate appearance packs.

What ME3 version do you have? Collectors Edition? Vanilla? If we are lucky you and I have the same set and then I could swap in the alliance uniform and give it to you and everyone else with the same set. I'll also take another run at the problem pcc mentioned above and see if I can get it in. As for hair...I have several variants I'm trying in addition to the ponytail. There is at least one pcc/location in the game where I can't just drop in a new hair as is. It looks horrible so I need to see which hairs will look good in general with transparency cut out of the hair texture.

By the way, I even have Ashley's original ME1 hair out and modified to fit her head in ME3. It is not even close to the complexity of all ME3 hairs. But I will see how it looks anyway.


I've got the full Collector's Edition. However, would that not mean that she would still ware the default catsuit as her casual outfit? I like her having armour on missions but hate seeing that horrible catsuit all the rest of the time :( I'd be ok with only seing it on Earth, but don't want to after that.

As for the hair; the bun would be awesome! 

Thank you! :D

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@Getorex

I just created a link to your own project didn't I?

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Would it be possible to give Ashley the grey Alliance hoodie in this mod?

http://social.biowar...m/project/8838/

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Demonique wrote...

Would it be possible to give Ashley the grey Alliance hoodie in this mod?

http://social.biowar...m/project/8838/


I pulled a hoodie out just for that reason.  I haven't messed with it yet but plan to soon.

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Joken wrote...

Getorex wrote...

I have the far left uniform edited for Ashley and ready to go in but I have to find the right uniform to replace it with. I cannot simply replace the default uniform with it without causing problems. The one thing holding me back from that is that for some unknown reason, one of the pcc files that contains the default uniform, BioH_Ashley_00_NC.pcc, will not accept any other uniform than the default. It will take an edited version of the default but so far only the default. So, the other way to get the alliance uniform in is to sacrifice one of her other options, like perhaps one of her alternate appearance pack uniforms. I have one in mind to try but not everyone has the same alternate appearance packs.

What ME3 version do you have? Collectors Edition? Vanilla? If we are lucky you and I have the same set and then I could swap in the alliance uniform and give it to you and everyone else with the same set. I'll also take another run at the problem pcc mentioned above and see if I can get it in. As for hair...I have several variants I'm trying in addition to the ponytail. There is at least one pcc/location in the game where I can't just drop in a new hair as is. It looks horrible so I need to see which hairs will look good in general with transparency cut out of the hair texture.

By the way, I even have Ashley's original ME1 hair out and modified to fit her head in ME3. It is not even close to the complexity of all ME3 hairs. But I will see how it looks anyway.


I've got the full Collector's Edition. However, would that not mean that she would still ware the default catsuit as her casual outfit? I like her having armour on missions but hate seeing that horrible catsuit all the rest of the time :( I'd be ok with only seing it on Earth, but don't want to after that.

As for the hair; the bun would be awesome! 

Thank you! :D


I've got the Alliance uniform all reworked and ready to try again.  If you are really set on it I could go ahead with it but you would have to (possibly, if the latest attempt doesn't work right again) tolerate her right arm being wonky in at least one scene on earth (when Shepard first runs into her).  I have no idea where else the NC pcc is used or if it will always bring with it the arm issue.  

First thing's first...I'll try the uniform again and I've pulled various hair textures out for the various other hair alternatives I wanted to try with Ashley besides the ponytail, low bun, ME1 bun.  There's "sexy" short hair, "cute" short hair, there's "classy" shoulder-length hair used on femshep I think for starters. I'll need to remove the transparency from each of the textures and try it with the desired test hair model and see which look good without transparency.

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Oh yes...I'm just about to update some links in OP because I've caught a few missed pcc files for Ashley and EDI so I generated a twofer Ashley-Big-1 and -2 mods, and I have updated EDI's default uniform 2 mod. I will no doubt find that I've missed one or two other pccs for various characters though I now believe I've got all of Ashley's.

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Ultimate ideal would be Uniform 2 above, low bun, and Ajax armor.

*rubs hands with glee*

Awesome work, guys.