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iakus wrote...

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Is there any chance you could do a mod to give Ashley this hair? I like it a lot more than her ME3 hair


There's actually already a mod to restore her old ME1 bun:


http://social.biowar...m/project/8729/


I'm not asking about her bun, I'm asking about a mod to give her short hair

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Demonique wrote...

iakus wrote...

Demonique wrote...

Is there any chance you could do a mod to give Ashley this hair? I like it a lot more than her ME3 hair


There's actually already a mod to restore her old ME1 bun:


http://social.biowar...m/project/8729/


I'm not asking about her bun, I'm asking about a mod to give her short hair


I believe there's a mod around these parts that gives her a "combat bun".  It may even be a simple coalesced.bin edit.  In any case, I MIGHT be able to do that if the body meshes can be put in successfully.

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Demonique, you could try your chances with Church, the ME3Explorer forums have a thread specifically for the mod that changes Ash's hair (yes to the bun). Seeing as they have been working to get it functional and have more experience with it, it's smarter to ask for a variation in hairstyle there. Not to say Geto can't do it, but it might take him a while to get around to it I'm guessing.

I remember there being issues in getting it to work consistently, at any rate, the measure of it being functional you can take from that thread.

Modifié par Ottemis, 14 juin 2013 - 08:45 .


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Ottemis wrote...

Demonique, you could try your chances with Church, the ME3Explorer forums have a thread specifically for the mod that changes Ash's hair (yes to the bun). Seeing as they have been working to get it functional and have more experience with it, it's smarter to ask for a variation in hairstyle there. Not to say Geto can't do it, but it might take him a while to get around to it I'm guessing.

I remember there being issues in getting it to work consistently, at any rate, the measure of it being functional you can take from that thread.


Thank you Ottemis.  That is pretty much my situation at the moment.  If I can get the body meshes consistently and properly, and once I've edited the bodies of various characters (and even perhaps some armors) then I can start looking at hair.  I've played around with altering Ashley's hair while I was starting out modding her body and it is doable but, to me at least, is more complicated than doing the bodies.  

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Quick shot, profile head view, of Ashley's romance/hospital body. I haven't yet figured out how to get her eyes and eyelash textures to display properly so both parts are black. I also did not load her hair mesh so this is her "bald" scalp that lay underneath whatever hair you give her:

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blender 2013-06-14 09-42-57-37 by praedor, on Flickr

Image IPBblender 2013-06-14 09-54-17-18 by praedor, on Flickr


So, what I did was quite minor.  I strengthened her chin a little and slightly modified her nose.  Somewhat more subtle is I also made her cheeks a little more "gaunt".  I didn't touch her (great) lips ;)

Modifié par Getorex, 14 juin 2013 - 02:08 .


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Not sure this one is actually worth it as I didn't change much (and didn't see much reason to). Miranda, default uniform: I greatly reduced her butt-thong pants issue, reduced the prominence of her butt, and did a small reduction on her breasts.

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blender 2013-06-14 11-31-36-92 by praedor, on Flickr

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blender 2013-06-14 11-31-03-57 by praedor, on Flickr

I did a slight tweak to her texture (the diff image) to lighten the shadows underlining her butt and I also reduced the appearance of camel-toe a little but the shadows of the lighting in the image hide this. That sort of thing is best left to the professionals (Ottemis,etc).

Modifié par Getorex, 14 juin 2013 - 03:36 .


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OK...I THINK this is a Femshep body. Does that character wear this at some point in the game? In any case, there are 3 different "sexy" bodies in the pcc and this is the first one I've tweaked. This and one other in the file are drastically different body-shapes from the 3rd to the point that, if real, would be 2, if not 3 different women. So, to try and "fix" this I am editing the two oddballs to make them more in tune with the 3rd, which is virtually identical to Ashley's sexy body down to the last vertex. In this case and unlike my other works, I had to increase the breast size because they were way out of whack with the others mentioned. I also narrowed the waist and broadened her latimissimus muscles (her lats) to give her a more hourglass shape. The original body had practically no muscle or upper body shape at all. So here she is (this is a femshep bod right?):

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blender 2013-06-14 16-13-22-71 by praedor, on Flickr

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blender 2013-06-14 16-07-28-67 by praedor, on Flickr

and

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blender 2013-06-14 16-07-37-76 by praedor, on Flickr

Her skin is pale because, I presume, you are able to select her complexion and that would need to get overlayed over the base skin...

Modifié par Getorex, 14 juin 2013 - 08:18 .


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Well, Shep never uses that mesh although it is possible to use it with Coalesced edit. It's for NPC characters.

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Tup3xi wrote...

Well, Shep never uses that mesh although it is possible to use it with Coalesced edit. It's for NPC characters.


Ah...figures.  Do you know where the meshes for femshep are?  They should be in the same pccs that you pull textures out of (I think).

And what NPC wears a body like Ashley's, in bra and panties?

Modifié par Getorex, 14 juin 2013 - 09:11 .


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It's possible to use everything in BIOG_HMF_ARM_SHP_R.pcc, BIOG_HMF_ARM_HVY_R.pcc, BIOG_HMF_ARM_NKD_R.pcc and BIOG_HMF_ARM_CTH_R.pcc when it comes to armours and outfits.

Now I don't remember exactly if that stripper outfit and bra outfit were exactly the same meshes but with different materials (I think that was the case), but in any case what femShep uses comes from BIOG_HMF_ARM_NKD_R (undie and nekkid stuff).

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Tup3xi wrote...

It's possible to use everything in BIOG_HMF_ARM_SHP_R.pcc, BIOG_HMF_ARM_HVY_R.pcc, BIOG_HMF_ARM_NKD_R.pcc and BIOG_HMF_ARM_CTH_R.pcc when it comes to armours and outfits.

Now I don't remember exactly if that stripper outfit and bra outfit were exactly the same meshes but with different materials (I think that was the case), but in any case what femShep uses comes from BIOG_HMF_ARM_NKD_R (undie and nekkid stuff).


Thank you.  I pulled out a set of uniforms and dresses that could do with a little tweaking.

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Getorex wrote...

Demonique wrote...

iakus wrote...

Demonique wrote...

Is there any chance you could do a mod to give Ashley this hair? I like it a lot more than her ME3 hair


There's actually already a mod to restore her old ME1 bun:


http://social.biowar...m/project/8729/


I'm not asking about her bun, I'm asking about a mod to give her short hair


I believe there's a mod around these parts that gives her a "combat bun".  It may even be a simple coalesced.bin edit.  In any case, I MIGHT be able to do that if the body meshes can be put in successfully.


I asked Church about a mod to give Ashley this hairstyle

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Getting started on a Femshep skirt mesh. Corrected posture and am still tweaking the rest, narrowing hips, reducing butt, etc:

Image IPBblender 2013-06-16 14-55-35-80 by praedor, on Flickr

Image IPBblender 2013-06-16 14-53-55-57 by praedor, on Flickr

Image IPBblender 2013-06-16 13-59-39-91 by praedor, on Flickr

Now femshep is tighter, slimmer, and has a bit more lat muscle.

Modifié par Getorex, 16 juin 2013 - 06:58 .


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And yet another. This one, I presume, is the infamous "I take showers in my underwear" lesbian love scene femshep body(?) or does it see use elsewhere? I actually have a Ashley texture that is completely topless that would be better for skin-tone but this isn't an R-rated thread, just PG. I left her breasts alone, they appear fine (not huge, not sagging) but did the usual and necessary posture correction (moved lower body from navel downward forward so shoulder blades were over the butt rather than forward of the butt, blended the disjointed mesh at the border back together into a smooth whole) and narrowed the hips, tightened the butt.  I also added a little bit of lat muscle.

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blender 2013-06-16 16-12-30-77 by praedor, on Flickr

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blender 2013-06-16 16-12-22-15 by praedor, on Flickr

Modifié par Getorex, 16 juin 2013 - 08:30 .


#165
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That's the outfit she uses when she wakes up after having the final dream before TIM base attack.

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It's not just Traynor taking showers in her bra/underwear but also does the same in the hot-tub in the lastest DLC. i'm surprised nobody did a mod for traynor to be in the nude. I mean ashley and Female shep get the mods but why not Sam?:blink: i mean i get it that Bioware wants to "play it safe", but really? who in the right minds would do that in their underwear?

Modifié par shadowhawk233, 17 juin 2013 - 01:13 .


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shadowhawk233 wrote...

It's not just Traynor taking showers in her bra/underwear but also does the same in the hot-tub in the lastest DLC. i'm surprised nobody did a mod for traynor to be in the nude. I mean ashley and Female shep get the mods but why not Sam?:blink: i mean i get it that Bioware wants to "play it safe", but really? who in the right minds would that in their underwear?


True.  I'd forgotten the Traynor nonsense.  VERY irritating (to me) because it is so ridiculous.  Lots of that vs ME1 where it was done right.  Ashley romance scene with her in her underwear at the beginning...not so bad, but she wakes up the next morning still in her underwear.  I've NEVER known a woman who would sleep (let alone have sex) in her underwear, and certainly not put it all back on AFTER.  Then you have shower scenes where one is in underwear(?!) and another enters fully clothed.  Then Traynor is bathing in underwear.  

In ME1 for the romance scene, it was very simply and well done.  It was clear that they were nude but there was nothing blatantly shown.  It was like any TV show or PG movie.  They could (should) have done the same in ME2 and 3.

I found an Ashley mod "out there" that eliminates the bra and replaces it with an almost equally silly corsett (under the circumstances of the game at the time...was she wearing a bustier/corsett under her uniform?(!)).  I edited it to eliminate the corsett entirely for topless, which works better for the scene, particularly the next morning.  It could also be used for femshep, I believe, because the body is ALMOST identical.  

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The femshep armor I've seen in the pcc files...ugh. I may leave them alone but I am sorely tempted to fix the stupid. The spikes and other blatantly Medieval/Dark Ages armor theme drives me nuts. I HATE that silly stuff. Either make it a silly swords and sorcery fantasy or go high-tech/futuristic and skip the swords and plate armor stuff. It was crappy armor back then and it wouldn't get better with age in the 22nd/23rd century. :P

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Well i'd love to see that creation of yours Getorex, if you don't mind me asking. The one where you said you edited the corsett entirely for topless. Still Traynor is the only one that has never been modded like Ash and Female Shep to be in the nude.

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shadowhawk233 wrote...

Well i'd love to see that creation of yours Getorex, if you don't mind me asking. The one where you said you edited the corsett entirely for topless. Still Traynor is the only one that has never been modded like Ash and Female Shep to be in the nude.


I believe that the textures used to nude up Ash or femshep would probably work on Traynor too.  I'll take a look at Traynor's mesh but I'd bet the overall body plan is virtually identical.

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Getorex wrote...

I believe that the textures used to nude up Ash or femshep would probably work on Traynor too.  I'll take a look at Traynor's mesh but I'd bet the overall body plan is virtually identical.


Let me know how that turns out. ;) Cause i tried using the mods that were used on Ash and Female shep and sam is still wearing Bra and underwear so i'm thinking it's a different mesh.

Modifié par shadowhawk233, 17 juin 2013 - 01:11 .


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OK...I could use a little help. Does anyone know where I'd find Traynor's character mesh? What file(s) contain her bodies?

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Getorex wrote...

OK...I could use a little help. Does anyone know where I'd find Traynor's character mesh? What file(s) contain her bodies?


Never mind, i got Sam sort of in the nude using the fem shep's bustier/corsett thing.

Modifié par shadowhawk233, 17 juin 2013 - 09:20 .


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shadowhawk233 wrote...

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OK...I could use a little help. Does anyone know where I'd find Traynor's character mesh? What file(s) contain her bodies?


Never mind i got Sam sort of in the nude using the fem shep's bustier/corsett thing.


I was still interested in looking at her mesh for possible edits.  What file did you apply the mod to?  Which pcc?

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Getorex wrote...

I was still interested in looking at her mesh for possible edits.  What file did you apply the mod to?  Which pcc?


You said that the textures used to nude up Ash or femshep would probably work on Traynor and you were right. So i used Fem Shep's bustier/corsett thing and it worked like a charm.

Modifié par shadowhawk233, 17 juin 2013 - 09:27 .