Aller au contenu

Photo

When did the Geth *really* ally with the Reapers? - Discussion.


  • Veuillez vous connecter pour répondre
345 réponses à ce sujet

#51
Dunabar

Dunabar
  • Members
  • 961 messages

Whybother wrote...

Dunabar wrote...

Careful S.A.K, you know better than to throw any mud in the direction of the 'pure innocent' Geth. Wouldn't want to tarnish their spotless reputation as amazing and outspoken allies of Shepard.

Honestly, I think that Destroyer was there before the Quarians launched their attack. Any other time after that the Quarians would have picked it up as it entered the system. Even if the thing did some how manage to sneak in, why didn't Legion or the Geth V.I speak up and say "Hey Shepard, there is a Reaper destroyer on Rannoch"?

PS: No I couldn't maintain a straight face posting this, I was laughing too hard.


Yeah, wouldn't the Geth consensus know about the whole "yo we invited a Reaper to stay with us" thing?

Maybe Legion did know and he just lied about it again :whistle:


Shepard: IT'S A REAPER!
Legion: Shepard Commander, we've known about the Reaper Destroyer
Shepard: Why didn't you mention it sooner?
Legion: We...We were...Error, please stand by *Conway twitty starts playing randomly from Legion*
Shepard: .....

#52
S.A.K

S.A.K
  • Members
  • 2 741 messages

Phatose wrote...

S.A.K wrote...

Phatose wrote...


How long does it actually take to install Reaper tech?  Lets ask Mr. Smith, as he gets Reaper Husk tech installed.  Mr. Smith?

"AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"

OK, 4 seconds.

Actually it takes several days to make husk. Try again.

......
......
......
Do you really need me to dig up that video from ME1 were it takes approximately 10 seconds?


There are husks on Eden prime in ME1.  That attack started right before you got there.  It ain't several days.

Seriously mate you should get your facts straight.

"Husks[/b] are synthetic-organic "zombies" created from the bodies of organic beings. When a human is captured, they are placed on impaling devices, huge spikes that Alliance marines have nicknamed "dragon's teeth".
Over time the body's organs, skin and water content are converted into
cybernetic materials."

And those people they impale infront of your eyes don't turn into husks. They just stay on the spike looking like human beings. Look in this vid.

#53
Phatose

Phatose
  • Members
  • 1 079 messages
Dude, there are Husks on Horizon Prime in ME1.

How did they get there?

#54
Argolas

Argolas
  • Members
  • 4 255 messages

Phatose wrote...

Dude, there are Husks on Horizon Prime in ME1.

How did they get there?


Sovereign was around for centuries....

#55
Phatose

Phatose
  • Members
  • 1 079 messages

Argolas wrote...

Phatose wrote...

Dude, there are Husks on Horizon Prime in ME1.

How did they get there?


Sovereign was around for centuries....


Right, so those husks on Dragon's Teeth were there when the colony was formed, right?

#56
S.A.K

S.A.K
  • Members
  • 2 741 messages

Argolas wrote...

Phatose wrote...

Dude, there are Husks on Horizon Prime in ME1.

How did they get there?


Sovereign was around for centuries....

Indeed. They could have come from anywhere. Ex: a captured ship.

#57
S.A.K

S.A.K
  • Members
  • 2 741 messages

Phatose wrote...

Argolas wrote...

Phatose wrote...

Dude, there are Husks on Horizon Prime in ME1.

How did they get there?


Sovereign was around for centuries....


Right, so those husks on Dragon's Teeth were there when the colony was formed, right?

You do realize that they could have just brought the spike with the guy impaled on it. I am sure even the empty Dragon's Teeth weren't there when the colony was founded.

Shish kebab anyone?
Image IPB

#58
shodiswe

shodiswe
  • Members
  • 4 999 messages
The husk process seemed pretty fast to me.

Sovereign had just attacked the World a 17 mins before you arrive on Edenprime and people are already turning into husks on those spikes and there are several finnished husks running around already.


Modifié par shodiswe, 05 mai 2013 - 07:07 .


#59
Phatose

Phatose
  • Members
  • 1 079 messages

S.A.K wrote...

Phatose wrote...

Argolas wrote...

Phatose wrote...

Dude, there are Husks on Horizon Prime in ME1.

How did they get there?


Sovereign was around for centuries....


Right, so those husks on Dragon's Teeth were there when the colony was formed, right?

You do realize that they could have just brought the spike with the guy impaled on it. I am sure even the empty Dragon's Teeth weren't there when the colony was founded.

Shish kebab anyone?


Right.  And why do they Shish Kebab them?

Because the Adrenaline from the still living human speeds the process?

Wonderful.  Now I've got to look over hours of cutscenes to find the one where the still living human gets impaled on a dragon's tooth to turn into a husk and attack you 10 seconds later.  Thanks for you the youtube assignment.

#60
Big Bad

Big Bad
  • Members
  • 1 717 messages
I think the OP's argument is deeply silly, but I must admit that now I'm hungry for shish kebabs.

#61
Indy_S

Indy_S
  • Members
  • 2 092 messages

Phatose wrote...

Right.  And why do they Shish Kebab them?

Because the Adrenaline from the still living human speeds the process?

Wonderful.  Now I've got to look over hours of cutscenes to find the one where the still living human gets impaled on a dragon's tooth to turn into a husk and attack you 10 seconds later.  Thanks for you the youtube assignment.

I have to admit, I can't see where you're going with this. The Dragon's Teeth along with the Geth using them most likely were aboard Sovereign when it attacked Eden Prime. The process doesn't seem to take much longer than half an hour.

Additionally, the guy doesn't get husked in the cutscene, just stabbed. You fight the husks two encounters later.

Modifié par Indy_S, 05 mai 2013 - 07:14 .


#62
shodiswe

shodiswe
  • Members
  • 4 999 messages
I really don't think they would bring spikes with people already impaled on them, it would be far more efficient to bring finnished troops. Then make new ones on the spot.

Also, if it would have taken them Days to finnish the huskprocess then it woudl have been pointless to impale new humans on eden prime if they are planning to level the Place with nuclear weapons...

So no, it woudln't make sense that the process woudl take several Days.

Also remember how fast the huskification process was in the Santuary cerberus lab,

Modifié par shodiswe, 05 mai 2013 - 07:13 .


#63
S.A.K

S.A.K
  • Members
  • 2 741 messages
[quote]Phatose wrote...

[quote]S.A.K wrote...

You do realize that they could have just brought the spike with the guy impaled on it. I am sure even the empty Dragon's Teeth weren't there when the colony was founded.

Shish kebab anyone?
[/quote]

Right.  And why do they Shish Kebab them?

Because the Adrenaline from the still living human speeds the process?

Wonderful.  Now I've got to look over hours of cutscenes to find the one where the still living human gets impaled on a dragon's tooth to turn into a husk and attack you 10 seconds later.  Thanks for you the youtube assignment.

[/quote][/quote]
You are welcome to try. But I doubt you'll find that cos it's against the game lore.

Anyway as I was saying. Geth couldn't have allied in the time frame Legion tell you because it would have taken atleast several days. So Geth must have allied with the Reapers before Quarians even came to Rannoch and Legion was lying. The onlything to suggest Geth haven't allied with Reapers before is Legion's words and it's not the first time Legion lied. If there is any other solid proof to support Legion's story, please share it. I really want to clear this out.

Modifié par S.A.K, 05 mai 2013 - 07:16 .


#64
shodiswe

shodiswe
  • Members
  • 4 999 messages
Also, what's with all these Anti-Geth threads you're spawning S.A.K?
You really seem to hate them a lot, something personal? One after Another, most of it has already been said. Or are you doing it because it bothers you that more people prefered the Geth over the Quarians? (in the Quarian genocidal war on the Geth)

Modifié par shodiswe, 05 mai 2013 - 07:16 .


#65
S.A.K

S.A.K
  • Members
  • 2 741 messages

shodiswe wrote...

Also, what's with all these Anti-Geth threads you're spawning S.A.K?
You really seem to hate them a lot, something personal? One after Another, most of it has already been said. Or are you doing it because it bothers you that more people prefered the Geth over the Quarians?

I made only 2 threads about Geth. First can be considered anti-geth if you want. But I made this to clear this question out.
I don't hate the Geth, but I see them as responsible for many atrocities and I haven't see anything to believe otherwise.

#66
Phatose

Phatose
  • Members
  • 1 079 messages
You still haven't provided any actual evidence that alliance would've taken several days.  Your just tossing out supposition without evidence.

Show the evidence that what you claim would take several days would.

Modifié par Phatose, 05 mai 2013 - 07:21 .


#67
Dunabar

Dunabar
  • Members
  • 961 messages

S.A.K wrote...

shodiswe wrote...

Also, what's with all these Anti-Geth threads you're spawning S.A.K?
You really seem to hate them a lot, something personal? One after Another, most of it has already been said. Or are you doing it because it bothers you that more people prefered the Geth over the Quarians?

I made only 2 threads about Geth. First can be considered anti-geth if you want. But I made this to clear this question out.
I don't hate the Geth, but I see them as responsible for many atrocities and I haven't see anything to believe otherwise.


Now S.A.K, you should know by now that the only side in this conflict that is allowed to be called out is the Quarians. Geth are far too innocent to have any sort of blood or dirt on their own hands to warrant such a topic to be made.

:whistle:

Modifié par Dunabar, 05 mai 2013 - 07:30 .


#68
S.A.K

S.A.K
  • Members
  • 2 741 messages

Phatose wrote...

You still haven't provided any actual evidence that alliance would've taken several days.  Your just tossing out supposition without evidence.

Show the evidence that what you claim would take several days would.

There is no solid evidence to show you. That's why this is a discussion. But there is circumstantial evidence to suggest Geth couldn't have allied with the Reapers and done all that within the time suggested by Legion. I am just saying contacting and Getting a Reaper to Rannoch, setting up that Geth ship, connecting Legion to it, hiding the Reaper in that base and transmitting the signal couldn't have been done within the short time it took for the Quarians to destroy the megastructure (it was just a bunch of light weight satalites).

#69
S.A.K

S.A.K
  • Members
  • 2 741 messages

Dunabar wrote...

S.A.K wrote...

shodiswe wrote...

Also, what's with all these Anti-Geth threads you're spawning S.A.K?
You really seem to hate them a lot, something personal? One after Another, most of it has already been said. Or are you doing it because it bothers you that more people prefered the Geth over the Quarians?

I made only 2 threads about Geth. First can be considered anti-geth if you want. But I made this to clear this question out.
I don't hate the Geth, but I see them as responsible for many atrocities and I haven't see anything to believe otherwise.


Now S.A.K, you should know by now that the only side in this conflict that is allowed to be called out is the Quarians. Geth are far too innocent to have any sort of blood or dirt on their own hands to warrant such a topic to be made.

:whistle:

Heh! Something like that.

#70
shodiswe

shodiswe
  • Members
  • 4 999 messages
I still can't see why it would take the Reapers several days to use Legion to setup the signal when Legion can do the same on his own and upload the code in a couple of minutes. You havn't provided any reasonable or Lore based arguments for why it shoudl have taken that long. All evidence Points to it being a fairly fast and effortless process once concented upon.

Your claim of it having to take days is baseless and what would be called an asspull I would belive.

Or maybe it was Legion's heroic resistance that made it take them that long? :D

Modifié par shodiswe, 05 mai 2013 - 07:37 .


#71
Indy_S

Indy_S
  • Members
  • 2 092 messages
The implication that a Reaper snuck past the quarian fleet is a little far-fetched. Not impossible, but I imagine having someone monitoring the only way into or out of the system would be a smart plan. My first assumption would be: it was an oversight from the writers.

#72
S.A.K

S.A.K
  • Members
  • 2 741 messages

shodiswe wrote...

I still can't see why it would take the Reapers several days to use Legion to setup the signal when Legion can do the same on his own and upload the code in a couple of minutes. You havn't provided any reasonable or Lore based arguments for why it shoudl have taken that long. All evidence Points to it being a fairly fast and effortless process once concented upon.

Your claim of it having to take days is baseless and what would be called an asspull I would belive.

Or maybe it was Legion's heroic resistance that made it take them that long? :D


I won't say it takes days. But how could they have done that within a few hours max cos thats what Legions explanation suggest (Geth desided to ally with Reapers when the Quarians destroyed the Dyson Sphere).

#73
Phatose

Phatose
  • Members
  • 1 079 messages

S.A.K wrote...

Phatose wrote...

You still haven't provided any actual evidence that alliance would've taken several days.  Your just tossing out supposition without evidence.

Show the evidence that what you claim would take several days would.

There is no solid evidence to show you. That's why this is a discussion. But there is circumstantial evidence to suggest Geth couldn't have allied with the Reapers and done all that within the time suggested by Legion. I am just saying contacting and Getting a Reaper to Rannoch, setting up that Geth ship, connecting Legion to it, hiding the Reaper in that base and transmitting the signal couldn't have been done within the short time it took for the Quarians to destroy the megastructure (it was just a bunch of light weight satalites).


And there is significant circumstantial evidence to show the contrary - particularly that the Quarian fleet still exists.  Despite the fact that we actually see after the Reapers intervene, the Quarians are outmatched.  Horribly.

By comparison we've got an awful lot of supposition.  Setting up the Geth ship consisted of 1 room.  That's it.  Connecting Legion to it?  Ever had an IV?  Doesn't take long.  Hiding a reaper?  How long does a Reaper landing on Earth take?  Finding an appropriately shaped hole somewhere on an entire friggin' planet?  Kidding me, right?

And "It was just a bunch of light weight sattelites" in the same way China is "just a bunch of people".

#74
Phatose

Phatose
  • Members
  • 1 079 messages

Indy_S wrote...

The implication that a Reaper snuck past the quarian fleet is a little far-fetched. Not impossible, but I imagine having someone monitoring the only way into or out of the system would be a smart plan. My first assumption would be: it was an oversight from the writers.


Are there other star systems in that cluster?  Is there only one way into the system, or an infinite number?

#75
Indy_S

Indy_S
  • Members
  • 2 092 messages

Phatose wrote...

And "It was just a bunch of light weight sattelites" in the same way China is "just a bunch of people".

Am I the only one who took that as a reference to their vulnerability rather than a racial slur?