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Tybo

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This information is posted in an attempt to stop people spreading the misinformation originating from this thread. by Cyonan.  The Paladin's Energy Drain is not bugged, he's got the mechanism wrong:  here's the correct process.

Energy Drain's shield drain is based on the damage you do to shields.  For example, if you energy drain an enemy with 500 shields left, you'll recover 500 shields (if you take the rank 5 evo for 100% shield restore.  If not, you'll get 250 shields back).  

It has nothing to do with the amount of shields your character has, or what character uses Energy Drain, or what percentage of enemy shields are drained.  Just the amount of shield damage done.

That is also why you get less back for EDing synthetics or Armor.  You lose the x3 multiplier and will recover 1/3 the amount of shields.  This is also why people generally only notice it on the paladin, as he has higher base shields and is more likely to be specced into a high fitness build.

We tested this with the SI, SE, and Paladin against a gold Nemesis.  

Paladin:  1087 shields (juggernaut package V).  ED does 990 to shields.  ED a fully shielded Nemesis, 990 shields returned.  ED a nemesis locked at 450 shields, 450 shields returned.

SI:  750 shields.  ED does 1089 to shields.  ED a fully shielded nemesis, 750 shields returned.  ED a nemesis locked at 450 shields, 450 shields returned.

SE:  720 shields (juggenaut package V).  ED does 990 to shields.  ED a fully shielded nemesis, 720 shields returned.  ED a nemesis locked at 450 shields, 450 shields returned.

Thanks to Lord_Sirian and tthw

EDIT:  And to anyone who knew about this for ages, I'm so glad you had the balls to tell Cyonan (or any of the numerous people who have been continuing to spread this incorrect information)  that they were wrong.  You know, when they posted otherwise.  Sure would have been helpful to a lot of people, and would have saved me some time.

Modifié par tyhw, 05 mai 2013 - 09:41 .


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Dalakaar

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Cheers for science. :)

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k1ngl1ves

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Working as intended.

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Not if you take 5 evo for 100% recovery, i believe

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k1ngl1ves

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^^^^^^^Oh boy. Here we go again...

Modifié par k1ngl1ves, 05 mai 2013 - 05:40 .


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tyhw wrote...

*snip*

Thanks to Lord_Sirian and tthw


Ha! I think you spelled your name wrong :D

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Tallgeese_VII wrote...

Not if you take 5 evo for 100% recovery, i believe


LOL

The very rumor I was debunking shows its head...

C'mon man!  It's in the very simply written OP!

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k1ngl1ves wrote...

^^^^^^^Oh boy. Here we go again...

You get the popcorn I got the beer. And vaporizer.:lol:

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I got the popcorn, k1ngl1ves can do the vaporizer. :D

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Modifié par Zack56, 05 mai 2013 - 05:51 .


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stysiaq

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I thought nobody had any doubts about it.

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Tallgeese_VII

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Damn, I must have been dreaming when I thought ED fills the shield as it sucks up from Pyro & Atlas

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Tallgeese_VII wrote...

Damn, I must have been dreaming when I thought ED fills the shield as it sucks up from Pyro & Atlas


well, video proof should answer any questions.

All I know is that ED pretty much always fills my shields, maybe because I tend to drain more than one enemies at once because of radius evo.

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this was a common misconception? lately?

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stysiaq wrote...

I thought nobody had any doubts about it.


valium wrote...

this was a common misconception? lately?


http://social.biowar...ndex/15618778/1

http://social.biowar...9026/1#16641169

http://social.biowar.../index/15185947

A quick sampling of where I've seen it lately, I'm sure there's more

Modifié par tyhw, 05 mai 2013 - 06:19 .


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Qui-Gon Glenn

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Science.

Sirian, I sorta doubted you. Not really sure why....

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Reaaally interesting!
Suddenly the recharge speed rank 5 is much more appealing than it ever was.
Expecially if radius+power amp IV are coupled.

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Hold up. Are you saying I can drain Armor, it's just 1/3 as effective?

If so: sorry Adepts. I'm draining everything now.

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OniGanon wrote...

Hold up. Are you saying I can drain Armor, it's just 1/3 as effective?

If so: sorry Adepts. I'm draining everything now.


I was under the impression that it only drained shields and barriers...and synthetics.

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OniGanon wrote...

Hold up. Are you saying I can drain Armor, it's just 1/3 as effective?

If so: sorry Adepts. I'm draining everything now.


Let me elaborate...

Against shields/barriers, ED has a multiplier of 3x.  Against synthetic health and armor, it has a multiplier of 1x.  Against these, you will recover shields equal to damage you do.

Against organic health or armor, ED has a multiplier of .5x.  Against these, you won't recover any shields

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Nitrocuban

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So power amplifier mod gives me more survivability?
LEL

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Nitrocuban wrote...

So power amplifier mod gives me more survivability?
LEL


It can only recharge your shields so much.

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Dala Kaar wrote...

Cheers for science. :)


If he were not an Engineer, this would not occur.

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I... thought everybody knew that >.>

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I knew this already due to the many times of energy draining while using a cyclonic IV + shield gear

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I am embarassed to say that I've been one of those spreading the "rumor" by Cyonan over the last months.

I'm sorry, but hey... Noone ever mentioned it might be wrong! :blush:

Nice to know how it really works anyway :)

Any clue why sometimes (quite often, in fact), the Paladin's ED seems to glitch out?