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Bethany and/or Carver.

One died at the expense of the other, but they didn't both have to die.

If the have a part where you have to choose to save one companion or another, I'd be fine with that. But making it completely unavoidable is what I take issue with.
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prologue companions dont count - they always die

Aveline doesn't, and Bethany and Carver both have the potential to become full-fledged companions. Either way, you lose both of them by the end, even though they technically don't both have to die.



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Note- three of the people I listed are NPCs this time around.

They are, But aside from Morrigan, they may as well be companions from what we've been told.

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One died at the expense of the other, but they didn't both have to die.

If the have a part where you have to choose to save one companion or another, I'd be fine with that. But making it completely unavoidable is what I take issue with.

The veil breaks over the Inquisition base; Morrigan, Leliana, and Cullen are all in danger, and you can only save 2.



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They are, But aside from Morrigan, they may as well be companions from what we've been told.

*shrug*

I'm not saying it happens early, and it would both have a real effect on the player while not actually hampering their party.



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The veil breaks over the Inquisition base; Morrigan, Leliana, and Cullen are all in danger, and you can only save 2.


Morrigan and Leliana, easy.

Something occurred to me just now... if you could sacrifice your Inquisitor to save, say... Varric (to keep on topic), would you? Basically, if your favorite character was at risk, would you kill off your character to save them?


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I disagree with the idea that the only way to have an emotional impact is to start killing off characters.

Like I said, if the player fucks up, sure, punish them with a character's death. But don't do it for nothing. Don't do it just for shock value.

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Yes- Lady Cadash or Varric?  Lady C would jump in front of that crossbow bolt in a heartbeat.



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and so would Hawke...


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Morrigan and Leliana, easy.

Something occurred to me just now... if you could sacrifice your Inquisitor to save, say... Varric (to keep on topic), would you? Basically, if your favorite character was at risk, would you kill off your character to save them?

Hm. My love interest, probably, or my closest friend. Morrigan, Merrill, Varric, Fenris, Oghren. or Bethany.



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I disagree with the idea that the only way to have an emotional impact is to start killing off characters.

Like I said, if the player fucks up, sure, punish them with a character's death. But don't do it for nothing. Don't do it just for shock value.

You can't save everyone in every situation, and killing off characters isn't the only way to have an effect. But going to war and expecting no casualties is foolish at best.



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You can't save everyone in every situation, and killing off characters isn't the only way to have an effect. But going to war and expecting no casualties is foolish at best.

I expect casualties. But those will be minor, faceless characters no one cares about if I have anything to say about it.

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I expect casualties. But those will be minor, faceless characters no one cares about if I have anything to say about it.

You might not, though.



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Case in point- Duncan. Man saves your life, and the only thanks he gets is seeing the world burn while all around him his failure becomes obvious. THAT was rough.



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I might not. But I doubt BioWare would do that.

Can you not just let me optimistic? Geeze.
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what has happened to us in here?  We need more Varric!

From Lady aimo:

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#642
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Varric- the dwarf with a beard so awesome, his face couldn't support it.


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To all the people who say Varric is race-locked...

YOU DO FLIPPING KNOW THAT THE REAL BIANCA WAS NOT A DWARF... RIGHT?!  <_<

 

Bianca is a dwarf.


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To all the people who say Varric is race-locked...

YOU DO FLIPPING KNOW THAT THE REAL BIANCA WAS NOT A DWARF... RIGHT?!  <_<

... Yeah, she was.



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To all the people who say Varric is race-locked...

YOU DO FLIPPING KNOW THAT THE REAL BIANCA WAS NOT A DWARF... RIGHT?!  <_<

 

Not sure where you've gotten your information, but...

 

Spoiler



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Morrigan and Leliana, easy.

Something occurred to me just now... if you could sacrifice your Inquisitor to save, say... Varric (to keep on topic), would you? Basically, if your favorite character was at risk, would you kill off your character to save them?

 

That's a hard one.

 

My first, immediate response was yes, yes I would.

 

But if my Inquisitor is literally the only person capable of saving Thedas... sacrificing myself before "the penultimate moment at the end with the Big Bad resolution, etc" might doom us all.

 

*annnnnnnnnnggggggggggsssssssssttttttttttt*

 

Mass Effect 3 spoilers

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#647
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I'm conflicted on Varric's chances as a LI, honestly.  

I think he has the best chances of being DA's equivalent of Garrus, and we all know how that phenomenon played out so the writers might have taken note of his DA2 popularity. 

BUT they also stated Leliana was not a DAI option because her story had already been told, been there/done that. Now we didn't really scratch too deep with Varric in DA2 (in my opinion) but he also had a comic exposing his past so that could also be taken into consideration...  

AKA I'm still up in the air about the whole thing.  I'm planting my interest in so many characters at the moment to cover my bases.

 

I don't think he'll be race-gated, anyways.  I think the whole race-gate issue is being a bit overblown, personally, and that only one or two companions max will rebuff certain races.



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Morrigan and Leliana, easy.

Something occurred to me just now... if you could sacrifice your Inquisitor to save, say... Varric (to keep on topic), would you? Basically, if your favorite character was at risk, would you kill off your character to save them?

Yeah, yeah I would. Any ending in which I lived, but they died, would be far too hollow for me to enjoy. My companions are always more important to me than my own PC. My PC is just a reflection of some part of my psyche, my companions are the characters I really grow to love over the course of the game.


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Yeah, yeah I would. Any ending in which I lived, but they died, would be far too hollow for me to enjoy. My companions are always more important to me than my on PC. My PC is just some a reflection of some part of my psyche, my companions are the characters I really grow to love over the course of the game.

That was eloquently stated and 100% reflected in my own sentiment it is one of several elements that make Bioware games so incredible and unique and powerful.  You leave the games feeling like you come away a better person having lived among such worthy characters for 60+ hours at a time.  I know many people who believe video games are a waste of time but to me they are spiritually renewing allowing me to access the heroic tendencies of my emotional nature, to see the world I live in through the different perspectives of the fictional characters I love.  Zevran had much to teach about the redemptive power of friendship and the tragic consequences of guilt.  Both he and Jack were exemplars that illustrated how the human spirit can triumph over staggerring obstacles and even from a haze of hate and pain find their way to happiness, friendship, and meaningful purpose. Alistair demonstrated that the perception of others has the power to shape your perception of yourself until others see your worth and make that recognition known, Morrigan was emotionally stunted, narcissistic and Selfish but with time, patience and affection become a true sister.  Leiliana stood up to the bias of her sisters held true to her principles and faced the darkness with courage. Garrus demonstrated the existence of grey in a world often set in black and white, I could go on and on but it is through the fictional lives of these characters and their stories set within the greater framework of the larger story that nourishes and enriches the better angels of our nature, illustrates big emotional concepts such as freedom, justice, vengeance, forgiveness, friendship, sacrifice, compassion, and courage; and through the effects on our hearts empowers us, the participant, the viewer, the gamer, to carry this experiential growth into the real world and it colors our perceptions and interactions with others in meaningful ways that I think would be difficult to measure but also impossible to deny.

 

For my part, although I loathe the ending of ME3, I acknowledge that I am a better person for having been Commander Shepard and I am a better person for having been the Warden and Hawke, I am  a better person because of the love I had for the companions and their stories, and the lessons I was able to internalize through these fictional events and the inspirational impact they have had on my psyche.  I am an advocate for equity and social justice, an ally to marginalized populations and I owe this understanding in part to the impact on my emotional psyche these fictional characters have had on me and how I perceive the world I live in.


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#650
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The veil breaks over the Inquisition base; Morrigan, Leliana, and Cullen are all in danger, and you can only save 2.


-snort- wouldn't even be a hard choice for me.

-whispers- Good bye Cullen