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[dreamgazer]

Seival wrote...

-snip-

They contradict each other and can't coexist in one person.

(laughs)

Shepard wouldn't be able to grasp the handles and assume control if he didn't know his/her own self-worth. Consider that. 

The two directly compliment each other, if they're balanced, and one should apply knowledge and foresight to one's awareness of themself.  You can rely too much on both.

[KaiserShep]

Seival wrote...

Yestare7 wrote...



Seival, your picture cannot be correct.
My Shep was very wise, cool and collected when she chose Destroy.

Destroyers are the ones, who fight their pride regularly... and lose every time.

Pride and wisdom cannot coexist in one person.

My picture is 100% correct.

The reapers die and shepard survives to see it. No amount of self-righteous gobbledygook will make that into a loss. 

Your second statement makes absolutely no sense. Hey, just like synthesis! 

[Wayning_Star]

Yestare7 wrote...

Auld Wulf wrote...

Another "I want Mass Effect to have the plot depth of Space Invaders where everything is unexplained." thread. Really? Really? Good grief.

Mmmm, I don't know Wulf.
Space invaders had good plot, and lots of character development.
Carefull who you knock there.

I can say I actually beat that game.. so I quit playing it..

[Wayning_Star]

KaiserShep wrote...

Seival wrote...

Yestare7 wrote...



Seival, your picture cannot be correct.
My Shep was very wise, cool and collected when she chose Destroy.

Destroyers are the ones, who fight their pride regularly... and lose every time.

Pride and wisdom cannot coexist in one person.

My picture is 100% correct.

The reapers die and shepard survives to see it. No amount of self-righteous gobbledygook will make that into a loss. 

Your second statement makes absolutely no sense. Hey, just like synthesis! 

actually, the reapers don't die, their contents as intellect is destroyed. They're made up of harvested races and their intellect/societies, etc.. soooo..

[AresKeith]

Wayning_Star wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

Seival wrote...

Yestare7 wrote...



Seival, your picture cannot be correct.
My Shep was very wise, cool and collected when she chose Destroy.

Destroyers are the ones, who fight their pride regularly... and lose every time.

Pride and wisdom cannot coexist in one person.

My picture is 100% correct.

The reapers die and shepard survives to see it. No amount of self-righteous gobbledygook will make that into a loss. 

Your second statement makes absolutely no sense. Hey, just like synthesis! 

actually, the reapers don't die, their contents as intellect is destroyed. They're made up of harvested races and their intellect/societies, etc.. soooo..

proof that they didn't die?

[KaiserShep]

Uh no. They die. They cease to function and their most valuable tech is left to exploit.

[Seival]

dreamgazer wrote...

Seival wrote...

-snip-

They contradict each other and can't coexist in one person.

(laughs)

Shepard wouldn't be able to grasp the handles and assume control if he didn't know his/her own self-worth. Consider that. 

The two directly compliment each other, if they're balanced, and one should apply knowledge and foresight to one's awareness of themself.  You can rely too much on both.

There are only two options: kill your wisdom, so the pride will flourish, or kill your pride, so the wisdom will flourish. They can't coexist, because each forces you to make completely different decisions. Pride is called the sin, and wisdom is called the blessing for the reason.

[AresKeith]

Seival wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Seival wrote...

-snip-

They contradict each other and can't coexist in one person.

(laughs)

Shepard wouldn't be able to grasp the handles and assume control if he didn't know his/her own self-worth. Consider that. 

The two directly compliment each other, if they're balanced, and one should apply knowledge and foresight to one's awareness of themself.  You can rely too much on both.

There are only two options: kill your wisdom, so the pride will flourish, or kill your pride, so the wisdom will flourish. They can't coexist, because each forces you to make completely different decisions. Pride is called the sin, and wisdom is called the blessing for the reason.

So picking Destroy mean you killed your wisdom?

[dreamgazer]

Seival wrote...

There are only two options: kill your wisdom, so the pride will flourish, or kill your pride, so the wisdom will flourish. They can't coexist, because each forces you to make completely different decisions. Pride is called the sin, and wisdom is called the blessing for the reason.

Whatever blows your skirt up. I'm not touching the religious implications of the words.

“Knowing yourself is the beginning of all wisdom.” - Aristotle

[Lord_Frostwind]

My problem with the reaper throughout ME3 was that they lost the horror element they cultivated in ME1 and 2. Suddenly, you get the Catalyst at the end trying to give you some sort of sympathy or explanation for what the Reapers are. You're an insect, a nuisance, are they going to even notice until you activate the cruicible? We already had the Prothean VI that we had to chase across the galaxy, even a marionette Anderson or Illusive Man being controlled by the crucible, ala ME 1 would have been more meaningful for me. In short, it's like seeing the zipper on Cthulhu's costume.

Course, I had a similar problem with the Geth in ME2, the whiplash of "killer robots who worship reapers" to, "oh that was only a small group, we're really a bunch of misunderstood victims," was a pretty hard pill to swallow.

[Seival]

AresKeith wrote...

Seival wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Seival wrote...

-snip-

They contradict each other and can't coexist in one person.

(laughs)

Shepard wouldn't be able to grasp the handles and assume control if he didn't know his/her own self-worth. Consider that. 

The two directly compliment each other, if they're balanced, and one should apply knowledge and foresight to one's awareness of themself.  You can rely too much on both.

There are only two options: kill your wisdom, so the pride will flourish, or kill your pride, so the wisdom will flourish. They can't coexist, because each forces you to make completely different decisions. Pride is called the sin, and wisdom is called the blessing for the reason.

So picking Destroy mean you killed your wisdom?

Exactly.

[BizkitRebellion]

tickle267 wrote...

Seival wrote...

There are only two options: kill your wisdom, so the pride will flourish, or kill your pride, so the wisdom will flourish. They can't coexist, because each forces you to make completely different decisions. Pride is called the sin, and wisdom is called the blessing for the reason.

hmm... what if you have neither?

Then isn't it Refusal

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

[Seival]

dreamgazer wrote...

Seival wrote...

There are only two options: kill your wisdom, so the pride will flourish, or kill your pride, so the wisdom will flourish. They can't coexist, because each forces you to make completely different decisions. Pride is called the sin, and wisdom is called the blessing for the reason.

Whatever blows your skirt up. I'm not touching the religious implications of the words.

“Knowing yourself is the beginning of all wisdom.” - Aristotle

"Sin" and "blessing" stopped being religious terms long ago. But you can call them "debuff" and "buff" if you wish so

[AresKeith]

Seival wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Seival wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Seival wrote...

-snip-

They contradict each other and can't coexist in one person.

(laughs)

Shepard wouldn't be able to grasp the handles and assume control if he didn't know his/her own self-worth. Consider that. 

The two directly compliment each other, if they're balanced, and one should apply knowledge and foresight to one's awareness of themself.  You can rely too much on both.

There are only two options: kill your wisdom, so the pride will flourish, or kill your pride, so the wisdom will flourish. They can't coexist, because each forces you to make completely different decisions. Pride is called the sin, and wisdom is called the blessing for the reason.

So picking Destroy mean you killed your wisdom?

Exactly.

And who are you to say so

[Seival]

tickle267 wrote...

Seival wrote...

There are only two options: kill your wisdom, so the pride will flourish, or kill your pride, so the wisdom will flourish. They can't coexist, because each forces you to make completely different decisions. Pride is called the sin, and wisdom is called the blessing for the reason.

hmm... what if you have neither?

Let's see. Who has no wisdom nor pride? A fool perhaps? Or completely mindless thing.

And to prevent your subsequent replies: the Catalyst is wise creature, just like its creators. While lesser intelligent beings are mostly the ones who lose each fight with their own pride all the time.

[The Night Mammoth]

AresKeith wrote...

Seival wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Seival wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Seival wrote...

-snip-

They contradict each other and can't coexist in one person.

(laughs)

Shepard wouldn't be able to grasp the handles and assume control if he didn't know his/her own self-worth. Consider that. 

The two directly compliment each other, if they're balanced, and one should apply knowledge and foresight to one's awareness of themself.  You can rely too much on both.

There are only two options: kill your wisdom, so the pride will flourish, or kill your pride, so the wisdom will flourish. They can't coexist, because each forces you to make completely different decisions. Pride is called the sin, and wisdom is called the blessing for the reason.

So picking Destroy mean you killed your wisdom?

Exactly.

And who are you to say so

The Harbinger of your Ascension. 

[Seival]

AresKeith wrote...

Seival wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Seival wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Seival wrote...

-snip-

They contradict each other and can't coexist in one person.

(laughs)

Shepard wouldn't be able to grasp the handles and assume control if he didn't know his/her own self-worth. Consider that. 

The two directly compliment each other, if they're balanced, and one should apply knowledge and foresight to one's awareness of themself.  You can rely too much on both.

There are only two options: kill your wisdom, so the pride will flourish, or kill your pride, so the wisdom will flourish. They can't coexist, because each forces you to make completely different decisions. Pride is called the sin, and wisdom is called the blessing for the reason.

So picking Destroy mean you killed your wisdom?

Exactly.

And who are you to say so

A wise man.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Seival wrote...
A wise man.

Clearly, you're letting your pride get the better of you.

[AresKeith]

Seival wrote...


A wise man.

Wise man? You. Nahhhh

[The Night Mammoth]

Seival wrote...

tickle267 wrote...

Seival wrote...

There are only two options: kill your wisdom, so the pride will flourish, or kill your pride, so the wisdom will flourish. They can't coexist, because each forces you to make completely different decisions. Pride is called the sin, and wisdom is called the blessing for the reason.

hmm... what if you have neither?

Let's see. Who has no wisdom nor pride? A fool perhaps? Or completely mindless thing.

And to prevent your subsequent replies: the Catalyst is wise creature, just like its creators. While lesser intelligent beings are mostly the ones who lose each fight with their own pride all the time.

The Catalyst is not wise, it's a machine, it did what it's programmed to do. My microwave isn't wise for heating my Rustlers burger.

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 06 mai 2013 - 10:51 .

[dreamgazer]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Seival wrote...
A wise man.

Clearly, you're letting your pride get the better of you.

Dammit, you beat me to it.

[AresKeith]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Seival wrote...

tickle267 wrote...

Seival wrote...

There are only two options: kill your wisdom, so the pride will flourish, or kill your pride, so the wisdom will flourish. They can't coexist, because each forces you to make completely different decisions. Pride is called the sin, and wisdom is called the blessing for the reason.

hmm... what if you have neither?

Let's see. Who has no wisdom nor pride? A fool perhaps? Or completely mindless thing.

And to prevent your subsequent replies: the Catalyst is wise creature, just like its creators. While lesser intelligent beings are mostly the ones who lose each fight with their own pride all the time.

The Catalyst is not wise, it's a machine, it did what it's programmed to do. My microwave isn't wise for heating my Rustlers burger.

The toaster from Fallout was the only true Wise machine

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Seival wrote...

tickle267 wrote...

Seival wrote...

There are only two options: kill your wisdom, so the pride will flourish, or kill your pride, so the wisdom will flourish. They can't coexist, because each forces you to make completely different decisions. Pride is called the sin, and wisdom is called the blessing for the reason.

hmm... what if you have neither?

Let's see. Who has no wisdom nor pride? A fool perhaps? Or completely mindless thing.

And to prevent your subsequent replies: the Catalyst is wise creature, just like its creators. While lesser intelligent beings are mostly the ones who lose each fight with their own pride all the time.

The Catalyst is not wise. It's a machine, a program. I'd call it less sophisticated than EDI. EDI is a person, able to change, able to come to respect life, all life, and see something better. To understand.

The Catalyst cannot do so. All it sees is a problem, and a bunch of organics and synthetics that can't get along. It doesn't try to respect them, or understand, nor does it try to change itself to understand. All it seeks to do is preserve through harvesting. By putting people in a blender and pumping them into a giant metal cuttlefish and calling it "ascendance". And claiming that all the minds are independent, despite the fact that they all are focused on the goal of destruction.

Also, I recall the Leviathans' pride being their downfall. It was their pride that drove them to demand worship. It was their pride that drove them to create the Catalyst to learn why they were not getting worshipped. It was their pride that the Catalyst recognized as impossible to reconcile with synthetic life. It was their pride that made them believe they were infallible.

Also, this "prideful" being just destroyed the Reapers. This "prideful" being won against "wisdom".

And your full of intense pride to claim that your way of "wisdom" is the only way.

More than pride, in fact...

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 06 mai 2013 - 11:02 .