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since EA is getiing hit hard financially will they rush DA3 out


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I know they likely will keep it going but I have this thought that they are gonna either release it early and then it will have  a TON of bugs in it  or they will cancel it. I don't think they will cancel it because they have so much invested in it and it is almost done but they are likely to rush it. does anyone else think we may get it earlier then bioware originally planned


edit when I say rushed I meant they would rush the stuff that they have left not the game in general

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No. DA3 will not be rushed.



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EA is getting hit hard financially? Source?

As I understood it, they actually improved last quarter.


As for the topic, It's been slightly over two years since the release of DA ][. It's too "late" for EA to rush DA:I out. Rushing it out would have been March this year.

Depends on your definition of "rushing," of course.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

No. DA3 will not be rushed.



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Arrgh! My pessimism, it flees!

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EntropicAngel wrote...

EA is getting hit hard financially? Source?

As I understood it, they actually improved last quarter.


As for the topic, It's been slightly over two years since the release of DA ][. It's too "late" for EA to rush DA:I out. Rushing it out would have been March this year.

Depends on your definition of "rushing," of course.

basically they cut some of the remaining stuff short like checking for bugs and such.  I didn't mean them rushing the whole game. they learned their lesson with DA2 cause while I liked it most of the games problems werebecause of a very short development time

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What if it gets cancelled? Star Wars Battlefield 3 anyone?

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EntropicAngel wrote...

EA is getting hit hard financially? Source?

As I understood it, they actually improved last quarter.


As for the topic, It's been slightly over two years since the release of DA ][. It's too "late" for EA to rush DA:I out. Rushing it out would have been March this year.

Depends on your definition of "rushing," of course.

I have heard they have taken a hit lately because of free to play games and such.  also i have read this on several sites and when you type in Dragon age 3 sometimes you get the news about EA taking a hit. I have seen it on the examiner and other places

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EntropicAngel wrote...

EA is getting hit hard financially? Source?

As I understood it, they actually improved last quarter.


As for the topic, It's been slightly over two years since the release of DA ][. It's too "late" for EA to rush DA:I out. Rushing it out would have been March this year.

Depends on your definition of "rushing," of course.

That depends on the scope of the game and number of people working on it.
Dragon Age: Origins or even Skyrim with slightly over 2 years of development still were going to be seriously rushed. ME2 with same schedule but with half manpower - the same.
I really really hope that Chris Priestly is correct and it is not just a PR. But saying that it is too late to rush a game because it was 2 years in development is simply wrong.

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jstme wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

EA is getting hit hard financially? Source?

As I understood it, they actually improved last quarter.


As for the topic, It's been slightly over two years since the release of DA ][. It's too "late" for EA to rush DA:I out. Rushing it out would have been March this year.

Depends on your definition of "rushing," of course.

That depends on the scope of the game and number of people working on it.
Dragon Age: Origins or even Skyrim with slightly over 2 years of development still were going to be seriously rushed. ME2 with same schedule but with half manpower - the same.
I really really hope that Chris Priestly is correct and it is not just a PR. But saying that it is too late to rush a game because it was 2 years in development is simply wrong.

to be fair when I say rushed I generally mean something like DA2 like I said I liked it but it was obvious it wasn't given enough time. also what I meant in this was  it having the remaining stuff rushed

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I know it's with a different crew than those working on DA:I, but Bioware is already talking about the new Mass Effect game. Will that take away resources from DA:I?

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jstme wrote...
Dragon Age: Origins..with slightly over 2 years of development still were going to be seriously rushed.


HAHAHAHAHAHA Oh, I'm sorry, but this makes me laugh. DAO was in development for 6 years. "slightly over 2 years" and, especially "rushed" are phrases I never expected to be used with Dragon Age: Origins.

Look at it this way. We know DA2 was not as popular with fans as we were hoping. Yes, it sold well, but we know that there are fans who were disappointed with aspects of the game (reusing areas like "that cave", wave combat dropping form the sky, etc) and have said that if DA3 is not better, they will pretty much give up on the series.

So, from both BioWare and EA's point of view, we need to make DA3 significantly better than DA2. Simply getting the same sales & reviews that DA2 had isn't really going to be enough. BioWare and EA hope that DA3 sells really well, that critics and fans alike love the game, and they we can continue to make more games in the Dragon Age franchise in the future. This is what we want.

If you are one of the people who believe that EA doesn't really care about quality and only care about making money, the BEST way they can make money is to let us make Dragon Age 3 an amazing title so they can continue to make money for years to come. Thinking they will rush the game out and potentially end a very valuable franchise for the sake of a quick buck, just doesn't make any sense.

As I said, DA3 is not being rushed out. Work is going really well and the Dev team are hard at work making DA3 the amazing game we know it will be. No cancellations here. :)




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Chris Priestly wrote...

HAHAHAHAHAHA Oh, I'm sorry, but this makes me laugh. DAO was in development for 6 years. "slightly over 2 years" and, especially "rushed" are phrases I never expected to be used with Dragon Age: Origins.


I don't think you understood them. They're saying that with the amount of content in DA:O, it would have been rushed with only two years of dev time.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

jstme wrote...
Dragon Age: Origins..with slightly over 2 years of development still were going to be seriously rushed.


HAHAHAHAHAHA Oh, I'm sorry, but this makes me laugh. DAO was in development for 6 years. "slightly over 2 years" and, especially "rushed" are phrases I never expected to be used with Dragon Age: Origins.

Look at it this way. We know DA2 was not as popular with fans as we were hoping. Yes, it sold well, but we know that there are fans who were disappointed with aspects of the game (reusing areas like "that cave", wave combat dropping form the sky, etc) and have said that if DA3 is not better, they will pretty much give up on the series.

So, from both BioWare and EA's point of view, we need to make DA3 significantly better than DA2. Simply getting the same sales & reviews that DA2 had isn't really going to be enough. BioWare and EA hope that DA3 sells really well, that critics and fans alike love the game, and they we can continue to make more games in the Dragon Age franchise in the future. This is what we want.

If you are one of the people who believe that EA doesn't really care about quality and only care about making money, the BEST way they can make money is to let us make Dragon Age 3 an amazing title so they can continue to make money for years to come. Thinking they will rush the game out and potentially end a very valuable franchise for the sake of a quick buck, just doesn't make any sense.

As I said, DA3 is not being rushed out. Work is going really well and the Dev team are hard at work making DA3 the amazing game we know it will be. No cancellations here. :)




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oh I don't mean it is being rushed so far and I am not the person who does the EA =evil type stuff. when I said them rushing it I only meant with what is left to do not the whole games cause they have given DA3 alot of time to be made.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

HAHAHAHAHAHA Oh, I'm sorry, but this makes me laugh. DAO was in development for 6 years. "slightly over 2 years" and, especially "rushed" are phrases I never expected to be used with Dragon Age: Origins.

Look at it this way. We know DA2 was not as popular with fans as we were hoping. Yes, it sold well, but we know that there are fans who were disappointed with aspects of the game (reusing areas like "that cave", wave combat dropping form the sky, etc) and have said that if DA3 is not better, they will pretty much give up on the series.

So, from both BioWare and EA's point of view, we need to make DA3 significantly better than DA2. Simply getting the same sales & reviews that DA2 had isn't really going to be enough. BioWare and EA hope that DA3 sells really well, that critics and fans alike love the game, and they we can continue to make more games in the Dragon Age franchise in the future. This is what we want.

If you are one of the people who believe that EA doesn't really care about quality and only care about making money, the BEST way they can make money is to let us make Dragon Age 3 an amazing title so they can continue to make money for years to come. Thinking they will rush the game out and potentially end a very valuable franchise for the sake of a quick buck, just doesn't make any sense.

As I said, DA3 is not being rushed out. Work is going really well and the Dev team are hard at work making DA3 the amazing game we know it will be. No cancellations here. :)




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Don't want to come across rude and offensive, but after I played DA II this was exactly the feeling I had about that game. Origins was successfull and after the "cancellation" of your 2 years plan for Origins with DLC to threw DA II out of the door, it came across as trying to grab some sales because of the fame of Origins.

That's why I remain skeptical of DA III, even although your strategy til now suggests it won't be the case again.

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EntropicAngel wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

HAHAHAHAHAHA Oh, I'm sorry, but this makes me laugh. DAO was in development for 6 years. "slightly over 2 years" and, especially "rushed" are phrases I never expected to be used with Dragon Age: Origins.


I don't think you understood them. They're saying that with the amount of content in DA:O, it would have been rushed with only two years of dev time.

Erm, yes - this is what We The Great was trying to say :). Ty for clarifying it. 

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garrusfan1 wrote...

I know they likely will keep it going but I have this thought that they are gonna either release it early and then it will have  a TON of bugs in it  or they will cancel it. I don't think they will cancel it because they have so much invested in it and it is almost done but they are likely to rush it. does anyone else think we may get it earlier then bioware originally planned


Even if I believed they were hurting more then any of the other gaming companies which I don't think is true for I think a lot of people aren't buying games anymore for most of the new games feel like games they already own I doubt they would rush Dragon Age Inquisition for they have a large investment in it already and if a game is going to be "rushed" its generally planned to be rushed across the board and not during the later parts of development.  For with Dragon Age 2, they really weren't rushed they just had a ridiculusly small development window given to them from the start at least that is how I interpret what has been posted by BioWare posters.

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You won't get an (honest) answer.

Do you honestly think somebody would commit career suicide and say DA3 is being rushed? Even the developers of Aliens colonial marines "worked hard" and did not rush it. You will have to wait until somebody is leaves, posts an anonymous message or is fired (not the most reliable source) but still might not be true what they say(as they might have an axe to grind). And even then, the parent company would still deny it and tow the corporate line of "everybody worked hard and are extremely proud of their work™".

Wait until it comes out and judge for yourself.

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Says you won't get an answer.

Answer given in the very first response of the thread.

Makes sense. Basically no matter what they say, they are wrong.

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Darth Brotarian wrote...

Says you won't get an answer.

Answer given in the very first response of the thread.

Makes sense. Basically no matter what they say, they are wrong.


Well if you read the whole of it, I never said that no matter what they said was wrong.  That is called putting words into someones mouth.  I was saying if it was being rushed, they couldn't say because they are under corporate policy and they would be fired.  And the only way to judge it is by playing the game.

So I will edit it for you.

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chuckles471 wrote...

You won't get an (honest) answer.

Do you honestly think somebody would commit career suicide and say DA3 is being rushed? Even the developers of Aliens colonial marines "worked hard" and did not rush it. You will have to wait until somebody is leaves, posts an anonymous message or is fired (not the most reliable source) but still might not be true what they say(as they might have an axe to grind). And even then, the parent company would still deny it and tow the corporate line of "everybody worked hard and are extremely proud of their work™".

Wait until it comes out and judge for yourself.


I think you play Deus Ex too much.

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chuckles471 wrote...

You won't get an (honest) answer.

Do you honestly think somebody would commit career suicide and say DA3 is being rushed? Even the developers of Aliens colonial marines "worked hard" and did not rush it. You will have to wait until somebody is leaves, posts an anonymous message or is fired (not the most reliable source) but still might not be true what they say(as they might have an axe to grind). And even then, the parent company would still deny it and tow the corporate line of "everybody worked hard and are extremely proud of their work™".

Wait until it comes out and judge for yourself.


This is why we should not preorder games. We wait and see and if it looks good then you buy. Don't let the meaningless preorder perks sway you. Odds are  it will be dlc eventually.

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garrusfan1 wrote...

I know they likely will keep it going but I have this thought that they are gonna either release it early and then it will have  a TON of bugs in it  or they will cancel it. I don't think they will cancel it because they have so much invested in it and it is almost done but they are likely to rush it. does anyone else think we may get it earlier then bioware originally planned


How would we even know what "early" or "late" is?:huh:

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I think the best thing going for DA3 is the fact that so many people were upset with DA2, im certainly not worried about it being cancelled but rushed? Im sure that could happen.

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chuckles471 wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Says you won't get an answer.

Answer given in the very first response of the thread.

Makes sense. Basically no matter what they say, they are wrong.


Well if you read the whole of it, I never said that no matter what they said was wrong.  That is called putting words into someones mouth.  I was saying if it was being rushed, they couldn't say because they are under corporate policy and they would be fired.  And the only way to judge it is by playing the game.

So I will edit it for you.

Actually, that's no better, now is it?  So now, instead of not getting an answer, anything they say is a lie, or might as well be.  The only part of your post I can rule out is wait for it to come out and judge for yourself.  Frankly, I'm not going to draw any conclusions about the game at this point, I don't have enough information to draw a conclusion from.  Once we started getting something to judge, I'll start thinking it's time to judge, until then, it's time to speculate, and with my experience with BioWare, back to initial release of Baldur's Gate, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

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Eh. I would think if the game is being rushed out the door we would have already seen one of those gameplay-free CGI trailers and there would be marketing guys making awful statements about stuff like The Awesome Button and how Call of Duty is really an RPG. Pretty sure the game is still a long way off and will at least be a lot more polished then DA2.