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Wow, dude is 16. It would be illegal for him to play ME3 here.

Isn't it kinda low to pick on a kid though? Wishing a giant corporation sued him and ruined his life and so on... I mean, is that who you want to be?


Why not? If the kid thinks breaking the law is fine, why shouldn't it be introduced to the fun of being punished by the law too?

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And there ya go. Didn't take very long for someone to urge EA lawyers to take this kid's future.

Modifié par SpamBot2000, 07 mai 2013 - 06:52 .


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And there ya go. Didn't take very long for someone to urge EA lawyers to take this kid's future.


Of course, because me stating the obvious cause and effect relationship between actions is actually just me wishing for the kid to be prosecuted.



Reading comprehension fail.

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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

SpamBot2000 wrote...

And there ya go. Didn't take very long.


Might you please elaborate what you mean to say with this comment?


Already did, with an edit.

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SpamBot2000 wrote...

And there ya go. Didn't take very long for someone to urge EA lawyers to take this kid's future.


Link?

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I say we feed his corpse to the Vorcha.

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I say we feed his corpse to the Vorcha.


Nah. They'll just leave.

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MegaSovereign wrote...

@masster blaster

Because the seller is trying to make profit off of a fan made interpretation, one that he probably didn't even help develop himself..


So what? If he actually makes money, that just means he was smarter than byne et al.

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SpamBot2000 wrote...

And there ya go. Didn't take very long for someone to urge EA lawyers to take this kid's future.


Link?


He's referring to me.


And no, being underage or otherwise immature/inexperienced is no "out-of-jail" card. You break the law, you're accountable for that. It's the reality of society.

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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

SpamBot2000 wrote...

And there ya go. Didn't take very long for someone to urge EA lawyers to take this kid's future.


Of course, because me stating the obvious cause and effect relationship between actions is actually just me wishing for the kid to be prosecuted.



Reading comprehension fail.


"Not me, no way, no how. I was just settin' here, talkin' about cause and effect in the abstract!"

Please. You made your pettiness plain enough. Own it.

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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Veganterror wrote...

SpamBot2000 wrote...

And there ya go. Didn't take very long for someone to urge EA lawyers to take this kid's future.


Link?


He's referring to me.


And no, being underage or otherwise immature/inexperienced is no "out-of-jail" card. You break the law, you're accountable for that. It's the reality of society.


Understood. And quite agreeable. 

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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

SpamBot2000 wrote...

And there ya go. Didn't take very long for someone to urge EA lawyers to take this kid's future.


Of course, because me stating the obvious cause and effect relationship between actions is actually just me wishing for the kid to be prosecuted.



Reading comprehension fail.


"Not me, no way, no how. I was just settin' here, talkin' about cause and effect in the abstract!"

Please.


Yeah right. Because reminding people that criminal behaviour is punishable automatically makes me a prosecutor.

Find yourself another scapegoat.



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Ohoho and now you're saying I'm all petty. Funny how people resort to personal attacks once they can't argue with logic anymore.

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That person is using copyrighted material to earn money. He's plagiarizing thoughts that are not his own and publicly available for free, again to earn money.

No matter how much you or anyone else might want to ignore that fact, it is against the law.


Really?  What law?

People are allowed to write about creative works. They do not need the copyright holder's permission, and they are permitted to quote portions of the work to support whatever argument they're making.

EA could certainly abuse the legal system and shut the kid down if they like, but they'd be wrong.

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AlanC9 wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...


That person is using copyrighted material to earn money. He's plagiarizing thoughts that are not his own and publicly available for free, again to earn money.

No matter how much you or anyone else might want to ignore that fact, it is against the law.


Really?  What law?

People are allowed to write about creative works. They do not need the copyright holder's permission, and they are permitted to quote portions of the work to support whatever argument they're making.

EA could certainly abuse the legal system and shut the kid down if they like, but they'd be wrong.


So, for instance, if I wanted to, I could release another book on the IT?:huh:

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I think we can all leave this to the legal department over at BioWare, since they are the ones who should care the most and whether it is worth doing something or not. Personally, I wouldn't write any book about a company without checking all the legal ramifications. But I do think it is absolutely hilarious that this is on Amazon.

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Hang on, let me write a book about the Morning War, and insert my own headcanon as truth. /sarcasm

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So, for instance, if I wanted to, I could release another book on the IT?:huh:


Go for it. Preferably hostile to the IT, so we can get one if those scholarly arguments going.

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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...


That person is using copyrighted material to earn money. He's plagiarizing thoughts that are not his own and publicly available for free, again to earn money.

No matter how much you or anyone else might want to ignore that fact, it is against the law.


Really? What law?

People are allowed to write about creative works. They do not need the copyright holder's permission, and they are permitted to quote portions of the work to support whatever argument they're making.

EA could certainly abuse the legal system and shut the kid down if they like, but they'd be wrong.


The moment you want to use copyrighted material in any commercial way, you have to get clearance from the copyright holder.


I can write about Mass Effect, or whatever else all day if I want, correct. But the moment I try to sell what I am writing, if it is based on proprietary work, I have to get the permission to do so, or it's plagiarism.


Plagiarism is punishable by law. Punishing the kid as per the law would be right, since he obviously broke it. Would it be necessary to punish him? That's another question, one that I have not tangled with contrary to what some people in here might think.

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it's not worth punishing him.I doubt he sells any copies

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I'll just leave this here for anyone interested ...

http://www.thebookde...-and-copyright/

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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...


That person is using copyrighted material to earn money. He's plagiarizing thoughts that are not his own and publicly available for free, again to earn money.

No matter how much you or anyone else might want to ignore that fact, it is against the law.


Really? What law?

People are allowed to write about creative works. They do not need the copyright holder's permission, and they are permitted to quote portions of the work to support whatever argument they're making.

EA could certainly abuse the legal system and shut the kid down if they like, but they'd be wrong.


The moment you want to use copyrighted material in any commercial way, you have to get clearance from the copyright holder.


I can write about Mass Effect, or whatever else all day if I want, correct. But the moment I try to sell what I am writing, if it is based on proprietary work, I have to get the permission to do so, or it's plagiarism.


Plagiarism is punishable by law. Punishing the kid as per the law would be right, since he obviously broke it. Would it be necessary to punish him? That's another question, one that I have not tangled with contrary to what some people in here might think.



Something tells me you're not a copywrite lawyer.  The fact you don't know what plagiarism is comes as a huge red flag you're making this up as you go.

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AlanC9 wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...


That person is using copyrighted material to earn money. He's plagiarizing thoughts that are not his own and publicly available for free, again to earn money.

No matter how much you or anyone else might want to ignore that fact, it is against the law.


Really?  What law?

People are allowed to write about creative works. They do not need the copyright holder's permission, and they are permitted to quote portions of the work to support whatever argument they're making.

EA could certainly abuse the legal system and shut the kid down if they like, but they'd be wrong.

There's a diffrence between writing and selling. This person did both, which is illegel if he did not get premission. How can people not see this?

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essarr71 wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...


That person is using copyrighted material to earn money. He's plagiarizing thoughts that are not his own and publicly available for free, again to earn money.

No matter how much you or anyone else might want to ignore that fact, it is against the law.


Really? What law?

People are allowed to write about creative works. They do not need the copyright holder's permission, and they are permitted to quote portions of the work to support whatever argument they're making.

EA could certainly abuse the legal system and shut the kid down if they like, but they'd be wrong.


The moment you want to use copyrighted material in any commercial way, you have to get clearance from the copyright holder.


I can write about Mass Effect, or whatever else all day if I want, correct. But the moment I try to sell what I am writing, if it is based on proprietary work, I have to get the permission to do so, or it's plagiarism.


Plagiarism is punishable by law. Punishing the kid as per the law would be right, since he obviously broke it. Would it be necessary to punish him? That's another question, one that I have not tangled with contrary to what some people in here might think.



Something tells me you're not a copywrite lawyer.  The fact you don't know what plagiarism is comes as a huge red flag you're making this up as you go.

If the writer is using stuff from the IT vids on youtube and he did not get premisison from the creators, that is in fact plagiarism and those people can sue this kid.

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essarr71 wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...


That person is using copyrighted material to earn money. He's plagiarizing thoughts that are not his own and publicly available for free, again to earn money.

No matter how much you or anyone else might want to ignore that fact, it is against the law.


Really? What law?

People are allowed to write about creative works. They do not need the copyright holder's permission, and they are permitted to quote portions of the work to support whatever argument they're making.

EA could certainly abuse the legal system and shut the kid down if they like, but they'd be wrong.


The moment you want to use copyrighted material in any commercial way, you have to get clearance from the copyright holder.


I can write about Mass Effect, or whatever else all day if I want, correct. But the moment I try to sell what I am writing, if it is based on proprietary work, I have to get the permission to do so, or it's plagiarism.


Plagiarism is punishable by law. Punishing the kid as per the law would be right, since he obviously broke it. Would it be necessary to punish him? That's another question, one that I have not tangled with contrary to what some people in here might think.



Something tells me you're not a copywrite lawyer.  The fact you don't know what plagiarism is comes as a huge red flag you're making this up as you go.

If the writer is using stuff from the IT vids on youtube and he did not get premisison from the creators, that is in fact plagiarism and those people can sue this kid.


Exactly.

Nevermind that the whole IT theory and hence that book is entirely based on the game. It's not like he's using that material to simply illustrate a similar concept or just using it as examples. It is the very core of "his" work.

So, essarr71, what exactly do YOU know about plagiarism?

Modifié par Neofelis Nebulosa, 07 mai 2013 - 07:34 .


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]If the writer is using stuff from the IT vids on youtube and he did not get premisison from the creators, that is in fact plagiarism and those people can sue this kid.


Talking about another persons work - and expressing your opinion on it - is not plagiarism.

It comes down to what would be considered public domain in regards to images and likeness.  That I couldn't say how much wiggle-room there is.  So long as the kid doesn't pass off the work of the writers as HIS work, it's not plagiarism.  It has nothing to do with money, but stealing of ideas.

The book - as silly as it is - isn't anything more than an opinion piece.