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[Lulupab]

Well title says it all. I provided a map that shows location of Dales in Orlais. Will Elves get an opportunity to get the Dales back? This also opens spot for some characters like Velanna to return.

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Modifié par Rassler, 08 mai 2013 - 01:58 .

[Knight of Dane]

Not sure if they get it back, but I hope the topic is explored.

[Elrena]

It's possible some of the plot may revolve around this very conflict - maybe we'll be given a change to help out with this struggle, if it exists at all in DA3? I'd love to help the elves reclaim their ancestral lands.

[cJohnOne]

I think it doubtful that the elves will every get the Dales back being so close to Orlais which I assume is hostile to them.

[Dave of Canada]

A bunch of rag-tag elves spread across the world can't begin to dream of getting a homeland.

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

I doubt it, with the Mage-Templar War, Orlais Civil War and that demon thing mentioned in the survey the game already has more than enough major plots, tossing the elves in there is excessive

[WardenWade]

That is a good question   It remains to be seen, however the upcoming novel The Masked Empire seems as though it may in part examine the plight of elves in Orlais.  Perhaps this struggle will form a substantial part of DA3's plot?  It would be nice to see their plight acknowledged, IMO, particularly in the cities.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

I imagine my Warden would've been perfectly willing to help... :3

[Xilizhra]

I would be quite happy to take a stab at this.

[Enigmatick]

^ Oh boy, there goes the thread.

[sandalisthemaker]

IMO this deserves to be a major plot in its own game. A future DA where you can choose your own race, because it would be a greater victory if your character is an elf.

[Noctis Augustus]

Hopefully I can use the elves against the Chantry and the templars.

[WardenWade]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

IMO this deserves to be a major plot in its own game. A future DA where you can choose your own race, because it would be a greater victory if your character is an elf.

Agreed wholeheartedly.  I would like to examine the elven situation more in depth however possible, in DA3 and beyond.  IMO it would be nice if progress, if there is any, were made by elves themselves, with the support of other races. 

And I do hope race options return with DA4   Mr. Laidlaw appears to support their return

Modifié par WardenWade, 08 mai 2013 - 07:32 .

[garrusfan1]

I think they should use the land they were given in ferelden for a while since there is no way they could take the dales back from orlais at their current strength

[Senya]

If they include it, then it should be done well. No black and white, the elves get the Dales back without any suffering or the Dalish and City Elves easily setting aside their differences in culture, atittude, heritage, etc.

If this is explored, it should give some perspective on what happens to the humans living in the Dales for who knows how long.

I'd also like an opportunity for a peace/compromise like between the Geth and the Quarians in Mass Effect 3.

[Noctis Augustus]

Faerunner wrote...

I would love it if they did.

However, knowing BioWare, the elves won't even be part of one major quest. They'll just be a couple of side characters in secondary quests. Or, at the very most, only show up for 30 seconds in major quests with no names, no personal involvement, no character arc, and no significance beyond serving as one easily disposable plot device to get the protagonist fighting the Real Antagonists. (Like the "Elven Fanatics" of Blackpowder Courtesy and Demands of the Qun.)

And Elven companions will be pliable to the human protagonist by having no ambition beyond helping him/her with human problems. And any elven specific views or ambitions they might have will be presented as ignorant, dangerous, wrong, and something the protagonist can talk them out of doing. (Like Merrill's Eluvian.)

I'm onto you, BioWare.

[Xilizhra]

And any elven specific views or ambitions they might have will be presented as ignorant, dangerous, wrong, and something the protagonist can talk them out of doing. (Like Merrill's Eluvian.)

Argh. This was not presented as wrong, it was possible to interpret it as wrong. It's equally possible to see it as being all good. Other characters may see it otherwise, but they're all wrong.

[Travie]

It stands to reason the elves would see an opportunity to take advantage of the mage/templar conflict...

[BouncyFrag]

Travie wrote...

It stands to reason the elves would see an opportunity to take advantage of the mage/templar conflict...

They'd still find a way to screw it up. Werewolves, demonic temptation and mirrors, etc, take your pick.

[TK514]

Faerunner wrote...

I would love it if they did.

However, knowing BioWare, the elves won't even be part of one major quest. They'll just be a couple of side characters in secondary quests. Or, at the very most, only show up for 30 seconds in major quests with no names, no personal involvement, no character arc, and no significance beyond serving as one easily disposable plot device to get the protagonist fighting the Real Antagonists. (Like the "Elven Fanatics" of Blackpowder Courtesy and Demands of the Qun.)

And Elven companions will be pliable to the human protagonist by having no ambition beyond helping him/her with human problems. And any elven specific views or ambitions they might have will be presented as ignorant, dangerous, wrong, and something the protagonist can talk them out of doing. (Like Merrill's Eluvian.)

I'm onto you, BioWare.

I'm ok with this.

Honestly, I think they'll set up the Dalish/Orlais conflict in 3 then deal with it in 4.  I suspect no matter which side we support in the Orlesian civil war (assuming we get a choice), the Elves will have found some way to ****** them off leading to war down the line.

[Mass Fraud]

Oh god no, I hope Velanna doesn't come back.
Unless she's not crazy anymore.

[MissOuJ]

It would be wonderful to get a chance to end the Dalish exodus.

But then again, seeing how the Dalish treat city elves / non-Dalish elves in general ("flat ears" -- really?!) I don't think that's going to be the fix-all of elven opression. And I certainly don't believe Orlais is just going to dive it up, no questions asked, but there's the civil war and the Mage-Tempar war going on, so if the elves were making plans to retake the Dales, there's not much Orlais could do about it, at least right away.

So yes, that's a possible plot point, certainly. Don't think it's going to be "the" major issue/theme - but if it was something like the dwarven politics in Ozammar in DA:O, that'd make me a really happy gamer.

[Nole]

I would like the chance to eradicate the elves :X