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[Pugz82]

Yes, I know another thread abot scores in a game that score doesn't mean anything but here it is.

What do you label as a poor showing in a game?  In this new world of ME3 MP and support classes like Jugs and Volus, I have seen my fair share of awful game play.  A lot started with the volus and Platinum....you would have players that would say....."guys I am going to play as a volus to support you and give shields so no one goes down." So there you are grinding through a Platinum game with basically 3 players, game takes longer and the player being the Volus at the end of 10 waves barely has 10k points and most of those came from killstreaks, objectives, etc.

Now I am not saying that is the same for everyone...I can play a Volus and top a scoreboard while still keeping my team alive with shields.  I mean, fire a weapon...do something other than spam a button.

In today's ME3MP you have Juggs...Juggs who do nothing but stand there and spam heavy melee on a armored unit. Barely using a weapon, rarely participating in objectives...and usually all completely suck.  Again, use a weapon and you can be a powerhouse.

I think in a Platinum lobby a decent player should pull close to over over 100k a piece...I have had plenty of lobbies do that and more many times.  Games are fast paced, fun, and successful.  Today I had a game on Giant vs Collectors...one of the randoms had a score of 18,000 points at the end of wave 10.  He was using a turian kit...had a GI using a valiant and banking 30,000 in a complete game.  These games were dreadful...lots of soloing, etc.

So what is your take...what should someone have at the end of a match.  The guys I played with today need to step down the difficulty until they figure it out.

tl;dr - what is a "good" score for Platinum/Gold playing with a full team.

[Placentypus]

I can't really say for sure, having played very few gold games myself, but other than my first gold extraction (which in retrospect seemed to have scored fairly poorly - top score of 90k, bottom at about 50k), my other 2 gold pugs have seen the whole team clear 100k, with the top player being 15k from the bottom.

I suppose those were great PuG matches, but I'm not familiar enough with Gold games to be certain.

Modifié par Placentypus, 09 mai 2013 - 01:45 .

[ToLazy4Name]

I don't care about score.

I care if they are doing anything. If it's a Volus spamming Shield Boost, he's getting kicked. If it's a Juggernaut meleeing everything, he's getting kicked. If it's a player that is just really bad and not helping at all, then he's getting kicked.

[Azatoh]

I would say about 70k apiece since if you actually contribute even using a M-3 Predator this is extremely easy. Granted, killing things is the main source of points.

[hong]

My rule of thumb is, anyone who scores at least half what the top-scorer gets didn't embarrass themselves. The trouble with a fixed score threshold is that you're competing for points with the rest of the team. If you get one guy who's way better or more experienced than the rest, they may end up hogging the kills so everyone else's score is lower than it would otherwise be.

I give voluses some leeway on this.

[Pugz82]

ToLazy4Name wrote...

I don't care about score.

I care if they are doing anything. If it's a Volus spamming Shield Boost, he's getting kicked. If it's a Juggernaut meleeing everything, he's getting kicked. If it's a player that is just really bad and not helping at all, then he's getting kicked.

My point is...you can play a volus and top the scoreboard.  Most randoms think "I am spamming shield boost and getting carried for credits."

I play daily with a big N7 promoter and score = exp which in turns means less games for him to play and promote. Like I said, score doesn't matter in this game but it really can show you what a player IS or ISN'T doing in a game.

[Pugz82]

hong wrote...

My rule of thumb is, anyone who scores at least half what the top-scorer gets didn't embarrass themselves. The trouble with a fixed score threshold is that you're competing for points with the rest of the team. If you get one guy who's way better or more experienced than the rest, they may end up hogging the kills so everyone else's score is lower than it would otherwise be.

I give voluses some leeway on this.

I play with mainly friends...9/10 times we all score over 100k each and are fairly close.  Some randoms can keep up but than you have those who are just a mess and suck so bad.  I can't give a volus leeway because if I or a friend plays one we don't sit behind everyone spamming a button...we play, and play it well.  So in turn...someone else can too.  Just getting tired of seeing the "support" classes in tougher difficulties doing nothing.

[soulstriker09]

Pugz82 wrote...

tl;dr - what is a "good" score for Platinum/Gold playing with a full team.

100k+ each or close, means an easy 15-20min gold / 20min platinum game...
That means I'm also in a private lobby lol.

I value medals more though. If I see the 25/50 kill medal its OK.
If I just see the 50 assists medal and nothing else, meh.

[DragonRacer]

Honestly, with the state of most common Gold PUGs, if somebody scores over 70,000, I am ecstatic to have them as a teammate.

Modifié par DragonRacer, 09 mai 2013 - 02:01 .

[hong]

If you are a player who can keep their shields up on Platinum without any problems, then no, a volus spamming Shield Boost won't do anything for you. However, most players are not at that level and they probably won't mind it so much.

Of course, you might also say that such players suck as well. But any classification rule that results in 90% of players sucking is also not very informative.

Modifié par hong, 09 mai 2013 - 02:02 .

[ToLazy4Name]

Also, in case anyone chimes in saying "Volus r suppert clasz, dey downt ned kilz"

No. Just, no. There aren't any "support" classes.

[Original Twigman]

DragonRacer wrote...

Honestly, with the state of most common Gold PUGs, if somebody scores over 70,000, I am ecstatic to have them as a teammate.

this.

im just taking the most easy-mode kit to pugs, now. my last one i had well over 100k from the next.

[ryoldschool]

There are a bunch of variables. I play unknown location, known enemy, gold all the time. Depending on the enemy everyone could score around 80k. Reapers seem to give higher scores. If a guy is not horrible he can score 50k. Less than that then the guy should try another kit on gold, IMO. ( I know I would *cough* krolord *cough*).

[GiroX-]

The Platinum PuGs you find where everyone can put up 100k are very rare and very sweet. Most of the time you have at least one or two guys with less than 50k on Plat.

EDIT: Oh yeah, I'm assuming U/U.

Modifié par GiroX-, 09 mai 2013 - 02:07 .

[doozerdude]

Gold: >75,000=expected, <50,000=noob/leecher
Plat: >100,000=expected, <75,000=noob/leecher

[Zjarcal]

500k

[landylan]

Idc if they try their hardest. Less than 70k is a very poor score imo.

I hate it when they start score boosting on wave 11 with rockets though. I'm trying to kill those dragoons for fun ******.

[TheKillerAngel]

Absolute number is meaningless. It's about the score ratio, among other factors. If I score 300k but the other players in the game score ~100k in a 600k pool total they weren't pulling their weight.

Modifié par TheKillerAngel, 09 mai 2013 - 02:24 .

[GallowsPole]

Different kits, different specs, crappy scoring system that doesn't work right all contribute to point totals anyways. Then there's the spawn nukers who steal points. Scores mean nothing.

[kobayashi-maru]

One thing you should take into account though is character choice. Did a gold pug with shotgun GI and got something like 85,000 with top scorer of 130,000+. The difference was he played as Kroguard and could charge and melee everything - and did - massacring mooks before I could get to them. Next match minus kroguard I got 160,000 due to having pugs with level 1 ammo/gear, so character is important.

[Blue Face Beast]

What means score when there is 1 player always getting first to the spawn point and killing them all?

It only means there is a player that is faster than the others.

So basically it means nothing.

[lightswitch]

Score is mostly irrelevant in judging other players if they're not very good. I'd say anyone who scores below 100k is probably a novice, but that's not important. Did they mostly stay alive, make rational decisions, and contribute to objectives? Those are the things that matter...

[OneCoolCow]

4

[CitizenThom]

Below 30k...heck below 40k on Gold is a bad score.

[Kalas Magnus]

Under 150k

Modifié par Kalas Magnus, 09 mai 2013 - 03:06 .