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silentstep79 wrote...

i'm really impressed by the friendly "non-trollish" trend this thread's taken in recent pages.
an occasional rise of BSN standards is a good thing now and again.


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Was just messing around in some gold games.

Had one lobby with 2 juggernauts and they wanted to kick the 4th guy every time because they wouldn't switch to an AIU. I mean really...wtf.

Joined another lobby with you bet...2 more juggs. As soon as I joined they said they said they were switching it to Platinum be I joined. I left.

Finally got a normal gold game...cerberus/haz glacier. I finsihed with 175k points, I only nuked one spawn because someone else did and it forced the spawn where I was. One person quit after wave 6...he had about 8k points. The other two guys were dropping dead the rest of the game every wave but still managed about 60k each. Wasn't a great game but it wasn't awful either. pugs...luck of the draw.

The two juggs kicking for players not picking certain characters is insane...stupidity at its finest.

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Pugz82 wrote...

Was just messing around in some gold games.

Had one lobby with 2 juggernauts and they wanted to kick the 4th guy every time because they wouldn't switch to an AIU. I mean really...wtf.

Joined another lobby with you bet...2 more juggs. As soon as I joined they said they said they were switching it to Platinum be I joined. I left.

Finally got a normal gold game...cerberus/haz glacier. I finsihed with 175k points, I only nuked one spawn because someone else did and it forced the spawn where I was. One person quit after wave 6...he had about 8k points. The other two guys were dropping dead the rest of the game every wave but still managed about 60k each. Wasn't a great game but it wasn't awful either. pugs...luck of the draw.

The two juggs kicking for players not picking certain characters is insane...stupidity at its finest.


Cool story, and everything. 

But how does this relate to the thread?

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wngmv wrote...

Pugz82 wrote...

Was just messing around in some gold games.

Had one lobby with 2 juggernauts and they wanted to kick the 4th guy every time because they wouldn't switch to an AIU. I mean really...wtf.

Joined another lobby with you bet...2 more juggs. As soon as I joined they said they said they were switching it to Platinum be I joined. I left.

Finally got a normal gold game...cerberus/haz glacier. I finsihed with 175k points, I only nuked one spawn because someone else did and it forced the spawn where I was. One person quit after wave 6...he had about 8k points. The other two guys were dropping dead the rest of the game every wave but still managed about 60k each. Wasn't a great game but it wasn't awful either. pugs...luck of the draw.

The two juggs kicking for players not picking certain characters is insane...stupidity at its finest.


Cool story, and everything. 

But how does this relate to the thread?


Because I started the thread.

Because I mentioned how 99% of people who play support classes spam a button the entire game and what you to do all the work.

Game got switched to Platinum be "I joined"....yea ok, sit there and press your B button the whole match so I can do everything else for 30 mins...nah.

Last...I posted a score from a gold game where I had 100k more than everyone else playing.  So again...the thread is what is considered a bad score...eclipsing someone else by 100k....pretty sad in my book.

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I wanna try an all volus match with you and flyer! 

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If someone is trying their best then I'm glad they are on my squad. People who bleed out on objectives is pretty annoying though. It's kind of a slap in the face to the others who are actually trying. I have friends who I play with who don't score a lot of points but I know they are dependable squadmates and that's all I want to see. When I PUG I will occasionally bump into a random who plays with game sense and I'll usually add them.

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Pugz82 wrote...

wngmv wrote...

Pugz82 wrote...

Was just messing around in some gold games.

Had one lobby with 2 juggernauts and they wanted to kick the 4th guy every time because they wouldn't switch to an AIU. I mean really...wtf.

Joined another lobby with you bet...2 more juggs. As soon as I joined they said they said they were switching it to Platinum be I joined. I left.

Finally got a normal gold game...cerberus/haz glacier. I finsihed with 175k points, I only nuked one spawn because someone else did and it forced the spawn where I was. One person quit after wave 6...he had about 8k points. The other two guys were dropping dead the rest of the game every wave but still managed about 60k each. Wasn't a great game but it wasn't awful either. pugs...luck of the draw.

The two juggs kicking for players not picking certain characters is insane...stupidity at its finest.


Cool story, and everything. 

But how does this relate to the thread?


Because I started the thread.


lol, nice

Game got switched to Platinum be "I joined"....yea ok, sit there and press your B button the whole match so I can do everything else for 30 mins...nah.


nah son, nah. i ain't like that

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Slojack wrote...

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Started game from the Lobby. Cant remember his final score.



Aaand I think I can safely say: /thread

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Original Stikman wrote...

DragonRacer wrote...

DaveT wrote...

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DaveT wrote...

Ugh.

I guess I might as well head back to Silver. By all the measures given here that provide an actual score, I suck. I will typically score 50-60K in a Gold PUG and if I'm having a good match, maybe push 70K.

My manifest doesn't let me get many kills, and my kits generally are built for defense to let me stay alive and avoid spending the match being revived/bleeding out. I usually get the silver/gold assist medal, but rarely the kill medals. Other (more experienced) players get to the spawns first, and I will often go entire waves killing one or two enemies.


Well, when I say that if someone is scoring at least 70,000, that I'm happy to have them, that doesn't necessarily mean I am unhappy to have someone who scores lower than that as long as they are on their feet and not leaving me to do everything by myself every single wave.

Unfortunately, in my own experience, those scoring roughly 50,000 or less also spent most of the game facedown on the floor in spectator mode. Now, if that happens for a wave or two, okay, so be it. But when it starts happening almost every single wave in the later stages of a Gold match, I actually start getting physically tired. Because I don't like soloing, and matches like that aren't really matches, they're glorified solos.

So, I guess my main gripe really is with people who can't stop dying 8,000 times a game, not so much score. Just that those who die so much also tend to score very little, so in that case the two go hand-in-hand. If you score "low", but you don't force me to have a backpack filled with three people to carry completely alone, then I'm not bothered with score.


I understand that completely.  Having been one of those "go down multiple times in 5 different waves" I have a lot of sensitivity toward not being a burden on my teammates.  That is a reason why I am specifically playing more cautiously.  But the trade off with caution is that players who are more aggressive will score much higher.  That is just the fact of the scoring system, it rewards an agressive playstyle, if you can keep from dying.


It also has to do with how long you've been playing, too, I think. You're relatively new still, making the Silver to Gold jump, yes? I've been playing since March 2012, but don't think for a moment that I wasn't a very cautious/non-aggressive player once. I've actually only really started lighting up Gold PUG scoreboards in the last 2 to 3 months, and that's simply because I've played so much and for so long now that spawn locations are becoming second nature and muscle memory has gotten better about knowing how far I can push myself and my shield gate/health gate limits (and I still screw up, I'm definitely not saying I'm a Goddess on this game, LOL).

Eventually, in time, you will naturally start playing more aggressively as you subconsciously get better at the not dying part (and more importantly, the not worrying about not dying part because you know your limits and how far you can ride them). Took me a long while.

And I don't mind PUGs that are going through that and learning that. I'd love to play with MORE PUGs that have your mindset of things. YOU are one of the "good guys", as I've said before in one of your threads. You use equipment, you help with objectives, you try to be aware of everything around you. Unfortunately, a lot of the folks in Gold PUGs lately don't bother with equipment, don't use a medigel EVER for any reason whatsoever, and just flat out don't get it. When I moved up from Bronze to Silver and got my butt beat to hell and back, I realized I wasn't ready yet and went back to Bronze for a while with my tail between my legs... practiced... got better... tried again and didn't suck so bad on Silver. Rinse and repeat for Gold and Plat. But it's like the folks I've been running into lately, they either don't realize there are lower difficulty levels or they just don't care. They have zero shame.


I'm going to write a book.

its going to be called: "How to write concisely and with pith, by Dragonracer"

it will be all of 7024 pages

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I always try to get atleast 100k, if i dont i feel like i've been ѕhite for some reason :mellow:

I still cant get 200k though :crying:

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@Dragonracer!

hahaha!my sidese!

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Would be a good book I bet haha

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@ DaveT
You just described yourself as a better player than 90% of PuGs. At least, by XBL standards, I can't speak for PC. :wizard:

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Deerber wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

I'm going to write a book.

its going to be called: "How to write concisely and with pith, by Dragonracer"

it will be all of 7024 pages

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I love DR's posts! :happy:


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Pugz82 wrote...

Would be a good book I bet haha


I wouldn't mind writing a nice Foreword for Stikman's book. Only problem being that Forewords should not be longer than the books themselves. Image IPB

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Pugz82 wrote...

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Last...I posted a score from a gold game where I had 100k more than everyone else playing.  So again...the thread is what is considered a bad score...eclipsing someone else by 100k....pretty sad in my book.



:crying: The first game I played with TMB he scored 206 K using the DV, while I scored 98K with the GT (this was with a set enemy also) ... first time I felt like a scrub in awhile ... i mean Lag, yeah, thats the ticket, Lag ... lol

The other 2 member of our party got to split the remaining 75K

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Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

@ DaveT
You just described yourself as a better player than 90% of PuGs. At least, by XBL standards, I can't speak for PC. :wizard:


The number's probably closer to 98% on PC.

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Slojack wrote...

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Started game from the Lobby. Cant remember his final score.





 Oh wow, was that player in the bathroom through much of the first half, or something?

I know some players out there have a big open-door policy for Gold/Platinum games, but there's a time when it must be said that a player learns more from actually playing rather than laying on the ground bleeding out most of the time--watching others play the game for them. :huh:

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MaxCrushmore wrote...

Pugz82 wrote...

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Last...I posted a score from a gold game where I had 100k more than everyone else playing.  So again...the thread is what is considered a bad score...eclipsing someone else by 100k....pretty sad in my book.



:crying: The first game I played with TMB he scored 206 K using the DV, while I scored 98K with the GT (this was with a set enemy also) ... first time I felt like a scrub in awhile ... i mean Lag, yeah, thats the ticket, Lag ... lol

The other 2 member of our party got to split the remaining 75K




Nah, don't feel bad. That's just the TMB Effect. Image IPB

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I think it is relative. I just marched out of a silver game with a bunch of krogans as a Talon merceneary. I scored best, but died incessantly.

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DragonRacer wrote...

MaxCrushmore wrote...

Pugz82 wrote...

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Last...I posted a score from a gold game where I had 100k more than everyone else playing.  So again...the thread is what is considered a bad score...eclipsing someone else by 100k....pretty sad in my book.



:crying: The first game I played with TMB he scored 206 K using the DV, while I scored 98K with the GT (this was with a set enemy also) ... first time I felt like a scrub in awhile ... i mean Lag, yeah, thats the ticket, Lag ... lol

The other 2 member of our party got to split the remaining 75K




Nah, don't feel bad. That's just the TMB Effect. Image IPB



I didn't really feel bad .. easiest 10 wave survived medal i've ever gotten. Was more amazed at the overall skill level ... had to abandon any attempt at defensive play and just run to every spawn spot one ahead of time, because if I went for the current one, I would only get there in time to see the bodies piled up on the floor ... was pretty comical.

Was a very impressive display

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A tale of two pugs: pug 1 was an n7 60ish with a human infiltrator and a graal spike thrower level 1. He was new but obviously trying, staying alive, doing objectives, making the occasional goofy noob mistake but generally doing a decent job. We make extraction on gold reapers in about 24 minutes, his score is about 40k. It's a solid game, perhaps a bit slow by bsn standards but no one was cobra spawn nuking and the other 2 team mates got synced all the time.

Pug 2 (this was a different day, also on PS3) is a TGI, who ignored objectives, didn't revive team mates, nuked spawns on extraction and missile nuked spawns at the opposite end of the map from onjectives, forcing them closer. The match took about 27 minutes on dagger, his score was approx. 150k (mostly due to the mess that was objective waves).

Guess which team mate I'd rather play with. HINT: it's not the TGI.

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DragonRacer wrote...

MaxCrushmore wrote...

Pugz82 wrote...

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Last...I posted a score from a gold game where I had 100k more than everyone else playing.  So again...the thread is what is considered a bad score...eclipsing someone else by 100k....pretty sad in my book.



:crying: The first game I played with TMB he scored 206 K using the DV, while I scored 98K with the GT (this was with a set enemy also) ... first time I felt like a scrub in awhile ... i mean Lag, yeah, thats the ticket, Lag ... lol

The other 2 member of our party got to split the remaining 75K




Nah, don't feel bad. That's just the TMB Effect. Image IPB


No doubt. I consider myself pretty good at this game, typically always topping the scoreboard. Add TMB to the mix and I look like I should go back to bronze and L2P.

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Flies_by_Handles wrote...



Slojack wrote...

This
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Started game from the Lobby. Cant remember his final score.





 Oh wow, was that player in the bathroom through much of the first half, or something?

I know some players out there have a big open-door policy for Gold/Platinum games, but there's a time when it must be said that a player learns more from actually playing rather than laying on the ground bleeding out most of the time--watching others play the game for them. :huh:

I cant remember what he was doing.  But, I gotta figure if he just blind chucked a grenade or spun in a circle firing his gun, he would have had a better score than this.

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I don't care about scores at all. If all goes smoothly, with no unnecessary deaths and we extract in a reasonable time, then that's good enough for me.
And if someone is always faster and kills everything before the rest of the team has a chance to contribute, then the team isn't necessarily bad. If someone wants all the glory, I won't stand in the way... this game is co-op, not a struggle to come out on top. I can't say that matches like that are much fun though, so I usually leave after.

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Any score that isn't my own.