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[The Night Mammoth]

I don't believe Joker will end his own life if I choose Destroy, your view on their relationship is hyperbolic.

[Mr.House]

AresKeith wrote...

Yestare7 wrote...

themikefest wrote...
Because of his stubborness femshep died at the beginning of ME2.

I suddenly hate Joker with a burning passion.
ANOTHER reason to pick Destroy!!

But it was also Shepard being a derp by staring at the Collector beam instead of going into the escape pod

"Oooo pretty Collector beam"
*Dead*

[Linkenski]

I don't get it. If the normandy can fly, then why can't EDI live?

[Mr.House]

Linkenski wrote...

I don't get it. If the normandy can fly, then why can't EDI live?

EDI was built by reaper tech merged with the Hanibel VI on Luna. If Reapers die, EDI also dies. The geth is more of a debatble subject because while they do have Reaper upgrades, they where not made from Reaper tech, EDI was.

It sucks she dies, but sometimes you need to sacerfice one life so trilions are saved.

[David7204]

We have pretty moronic definitions of 'derp' on the BSN, don't we?

Pausing a moment to look at your ship being blown apart is not only not 'derp,' it's sensible. You live or die depending on your surroundings, it's incredible important to have a sense of them.

Modifié par David7204, 09 mai 2013 - 11:07 .

[Mr.House]

David7204 wrote...

We have pretty moronic definitions of 'derp' on the BSN don't we?

Wasting time looking at a lazer instead of getting into the escape pod is 100% derp.

[David7204]

Having a sense of your surroundings in an incredibly dangerous situation is 100% sensible. Not doing so is 100% idiotic.

If that escape pod was compromised by the Collector ship and Shepard got in anyway, you'd be shrieking your little lungs off that Shepard is the stupidest person, ever EVER for not paying attention. And then maybe both Shepard and Joker would be dead instead of just Shepard? Maybe Shepard's body would be vaporized into dust and Lazarus would be off the table?

Modifié par David7204, 09 mai 2013 - 11:14 .

[Argolas]

There are multiple situations in which you wonder why someone, often Shepard, didn't act faster or not at all. For example when Thane fought Kai Leng, in the first moments Leng used the Salarian councillor as shield, but after that there were multiple situations in which Shepard could have helped.

Better not to think about it and just think of it as a 1vs1 assassin duel since that's probably what it was supposed to be. Same with the situation at the beginning of ME2. It was supposed to be a dramatic Shepard death and that's probably all we should think about it.

[Astartes Marine]

Mr.House wrote...

David7204 wrote...

We have pretty moronic definitions of 'derp' on the BSN don't we?

Wasting time looking at a lazer instead of getting into the escape pod is 100% derp.

Agreed.  Yes having an understanding of your surroundings is a good thing to have, however in a situation where your ship is literally about to explode the last thing you want to do is sit around and look at the sights while you have an open escape pod directly in front of you.  So yeah, derp for the sake of the plot.

[David7204]

Thane's death is a problem. Shepard pausing a moment to get a sense of the situation as his ship is being blown apart is not a problem. That's just stupid.

[The Night Mammoth]

What's could possibly be more important about her surroundings than getting in the escape pod? Nothing else matters. There's only one way to get off the Normandy safely, watching the ship disintegrate some more does nothing but waste time.

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 09 mai 2013 - 11:18 .

[David7204]

And if that escape pod got blown into scrap? Shepard's wearing a suit at least. A 99% chance of death by being blown into space is a hell of a lot better than a 100% chance of death by walking into your enemies fire.

This is all just ridiculous. You should all know good and well that if it was you, you'd be balled up in a corner crying your eyes out and pissing yourself. So you're calling yourselves a lot worse than 'derp.'

Modifié par David7204, 09 mai 2013 - 11:23 .

[AresKeith]

David7204 wrote...

And if that escape pod got blown into scrap? Shepard's wearing a suit at least. A 99% chance of death by being blown into space is a hell of a lot better than a 100% chance of death by walking into your enemies fire.

This is all just ridiculous. You should all know good and well that if it was you, you'd be balled up in a corner crying your eyes out and pissing yourself. So you're calling yourselves a lot worse than 'derp.'

The Collectors were too busy blasting the ship to even notice the escape pod

[Astartes Marine]

David7204 wrote...
And if that escape pod got blown into scrap?

Then you'd be just as dead as standing around doing nothing.  Thing is, that's the ONLY way off the ship, so Shepard has to run the risk of it being hit.  Risk is part of the game of command.

David7204 wrote...
You should all know good and well that if it was you, you'd be balled up
in a corner crying your eyes out and pissing yourself.

There's a great Oscar Wilde quote about assumptions.

And there really is no point continuing with you, no matter what anybody says you're going to argue and contradict them like you always do.  <_<

EDIT:

Finn the Jakey wrote...

The entire ship is falling apart
around him, he can either take a chance and go the the escape pod, or
stand there waiting for the beam to hit. Its the choice between possible
death and certain death.

Well said there.  Could the escape pod be damaged?  Sure, there are a million unknowns at that point but sometimes you have to roll the dice and pray for the best.

Modifié par Astartes Marine, 09 mai 2013 - 11:38 .

[Hurbster]

Jeff's reason to live is flying a starship, not banging a robot.

[David7204]

No, people here contradict themselves. Including you. All I do is point is out.

As I said, Shepard was wearing a suit. It's better than nothing. And did anyone say anything about that being the last pod? That one gets fried, maybe they could have gotten to another.

[AresKeith]

David7204 wrote...

No, people here contradict themselves. Including you. All I do is point is out.

As I said, Shepard was wearing a suit. It's better than nothing. And did anyone say anything about that being the last pod? That one gets fried, maybe they could have gotten to another.

How are we contradicting ourselves?

[David7204]

I really hate to play this card, but here it is.

It is seriously insulting and offensive to people who actually face danger to say that any kind of hesitation is "LOLZ ROFL 100% DERP RETARD SO STUPID LOL LOL LOL." Particularly by - let's face it - people on a video game forum who would probably ****** themselves if they were threatened by so much as a fistfight.

You know what? It happens. It's human instinct to turn your head and look when a gigantic laser cuts through the ceiling and floor 5 meters away from you. It's not stupid. It's not 'cutscene incompetence.' It's not 'derp.' If Shepard had a few minutes to sit down and quietly think about the situation, would he have done the same thing? Maybe not. But that's not how things work.

In real life, have people hesitated and paid for it, sometimes with their lives? You bet.

But at the same time, I'd bet there's just as many situations where hesitating saved someone from friendly fire or shooting a civilian or something like that.

[quote]AresKeith wrote...
How are we contradicting ourselves?[/quote]
Simple. When Shepard hesitates, it's '100% derp.' I don't think you would ever say the same thing about people who have face analogous situations in real life.
[/quote] 

Modifié par David7204, 09 mai 2013 - 11:51 .

[Astartes Marine]

David7204 wrote...
No, people here contradict themselves. Including you. All I do is point is out.

See you're still doing it, and not nearly as well as it was done on the Flying Circus.

David7204 wrote...
As
I said, Shepard was wearing a suit. It's better than nothing.

A suit with no food or water supplies that an escape pod will likely have, not to mention a locator beacon and propulsion systems to get to a nearby allied installation.  Simply floating in space with a suit leaves you immobile to either be picked up by the Collector ship that is still RIGHT THERE or eventually die of starvation and/or thirst.

If you float out there expecting Alliance rescue, guess what, the Collectors will probably attack the rescue ship too.  That area of space was mentioned at the beginning of that whole scene to be where several ships had already gone missing.

Taking the floating in space option could also get you blasted into the atmosphere of the nearby planet from the inevitable shockwave of the exploding Normandy.  Oh wait that one happened.

David7204 wrote...
And did
anyone say anything about that being the last pod? That one gets fried,
maybe they could have gotten to another.

Yeah...except for that Collector energy beam bisecting the ship through the only corridor out of the pilot's section...

[spirosz]

I hate to agree with David, but I agree with David. You can nitpick a scenario like that, especially when you're not the one experiencing it at the very moment and say "Shepard should of done this, done that, etc", but instinct and reaction takes over logic at moments like that.

[Astartes Marine]

spirosz wrote...
You can nitpick a scenario like that, especially when you're not the one experiencing it at the very moment and say "Shepard should of done this, done that, etc", but instinct and reaction takes over logic at moments like that.

Now see that is a fair argument and that's probably what happened.  The thing I was in on arguing was what the best course of action was at the time, which was just to jump in the pod and get the hell away. 

Modifié par Astartes Marine, 09 mai 2013 - 11:59 .

[David7204]

Is that why you derided it as 'derp for the sake of the plot' instead of a very realistic and plausible action?

[spirosz]

That's the thing though, it might of been the best action to take, but at split second moments, the brain and body itself, can only do so much and it's really dependent on the situation at hand, right?

[AresKeith]

David7204 wrote...

Is that why you derided it as 'derp for the sake of the plot' instead of a very realistic and plausible action?

Or it was to just annoy you