Garrus supports agents with unlimited power and little accountibility. He believes in sacrificing the one for many. Does not hesitate to use torture to get information.
Paragon Shepard VS Renegade Shepard
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Rhayak
, mai 09 2013 09:31
#26
Posté 09 mai 2013 - 11:14
#27
Posté 09 mai 2013 - 11:31
Steelcan wrote...
Garrus supports agents with unlimited power and little accountibility.
Spectres don't have unlimited power or little accountability, he supports not being tied down by C-sec's regulations, he does not support a sinlge person running around doing whatever they want with no one to answer to. He supports Shepard, and Shepard always takes orders from someone. He does not support killing innocents in general, or specifically Mordin during the genophage arc.
He believes in sacrificing the one for many.
That's not particularly renegade. He'd gladly sacrifice himself for the many.
Does not hesitate to use torture to get information.
Which he uses to find Sidonis. Depending on your playthrough, you can let him take revenge, or stop him. Which would he choose if both Renegade and Paragon Shepard are there?
Overall, Garrus would side with Paragon Shepard because Paragon Shepard isn't a complete ****.
#28
Posté 09 mai 2013 - 11:33
I support agents with unlimited power and no accountability, and I play fully Paragon.
Well, it's actually more subtle than that. I would never admit that on camera or anything. But I would certainly think it privately. And I wouldn't support any agent, just a select few, including myself. For most people, I would very heavily condemn it.
It's subtle. If you truly believe in autocratic power, you don't support it, because autocratic power is, by definition, power independent of the support of the masses.
Garrus punches the guy a few times. That is hardly 'torture.'
Well, it's actually more subtle than that. I would never admit that on camera or anything. But I would certainly think it privately. And I wouldn't support any agent, just a select few, including myself. For most people, I would very heavily condemn it.
It's subtle. If you truly believe in autocratic power, you don't support it, because autocratic power is, by definition, power independent of the support of the masses.
Garrus punches the guy a few times. That is hardly 'torture.'
Modifié par David7204, 09 mai 2013 - 11:37 .
#29
Posté 10 mai 2013 - 12:59
I'm more of a paragon person, but sometimes I feel like going renegade for a bit. In Mass Effect 2, there are times where renegade is just what you need. I can't go completely paragon nor renegade. In Mass Effect, same thing. There are just some people I really want to shoot. But I feel like in Mass Effect 3, paragon and renegade do not have much effect on personality as they do in the previous games. Which kind of good, 'cause it's hard to stack them up.
#30
Posté 12 mai 2013 - 06:09
I like the Renegade female VS the Paragon male comparison. Male would focus on building alliances while female focused on actually fighting the Reapers and in the final hours (in keeping with the ME idea of romance) they would end up in bed together before the final push.
#31
Guest_Cthulhu42_*
Posté 12 mai 2013 - 12:45
Guest_Cthulhu42_*
None of them are particularly Paragon either.The Night Mammoth wrote...
Steelcan wrote...
Except for Javik, Wrex, Garrus, Zaeed, James, and Ashley.David7204 wrote...
The squadmates would all side with Paragon Shepard. As it should be.
I'll give you Javik and Zaeed, by what would Garrus, James, Ashley and Wrex side with Renegade Shepard? None of them are particularly Renegade by the end of ME3.
Anyway, the majority of the squad would support different Sheps in different situations. When it comes to something like the Feros colonists, most of them would go Paragon and spare them, but when it's the geth on the line, most of them would side with RenegadeShep.
Modifié par Cthulhu42, 12 mai 2013 - 12:47 .
#32
Posté 12 mai 2013 - 05:15
dreamgazer wrote...
While the white knight and hothead knock each other silly and bicker about morality, Neutral Shepard would go get the job done with a level head.
Unfortunately, Renshep and Parashep would let Neutshep die during the Suicide Mission in ME2, because there's no room for neutrality on ME3's dialogue wheel.
#33
Posté 12 mai 2013 - 07:26
I have to admit that this question becomes more interesting the more you think about it. It leads into all sorts of juicey questions, such as why they act the way they do, and what influence would they have on each other, as well as my favourite, which one is truly which. Is the paragon holding back a monster inside of them, is the renegade simply doing whatever they can to try and help?
I would imagine however, that they would attempt to work together in the beginning, the given time the differences in their ideoligies would force them apart, only for them to reconcile right before the final showdown. They would then proceed to kick some Reaper ass, save the galaxy in an appropriately awesome way and bring about the destruction of everything.
I would imagine however, that they would attempt to work together in the beginning, the given time the differences in their ideoligies would force them apart, only for them to reconcile right before the final showdown. They would then proceed to kick some Reaper ass, save the galaxy in an appropriately awesome way and bring about the destruction of everything.
#34
Posté 12 mai 2013 - 07:42
Renegade Shep's team: femShep
* Liara, Javik, Jack, Zaeed, Grunt, Garrus, Xen (recruited instead of Tali) with a reprogrammed geth engineer under her direct control. Yeah, Xen just stays at the DZ and controls the engineer, and its turret, and remote hacks stuff. Kelly (well someone has to say "you have new messages at your private terminal"). (LIs in group -- Liara, Zaeed, Garrus, Jack (she said she was bi in ME2)) Now let's go be big goddamned heroes!
Paragon Shepard's team: Sheploo
* Traynor (you can't have Liara, instead Traynor bothers you all the time), James, Kaidan, Jacob, Kasumi, Tali, Samara, Miranda (LI in group -- Kaidan, Kasumi, Tali, Miranda)
Both: EDI.
Two different Normandys. We'd see some different results.
Renegade Sheps team would make peace without the Pinocchio Code kill the reaper and blast away enough Geth so that Xen's reprogramming could take effect and bring the rest of the geth under direct Quarian control thus not only winning back the home world for the Quarians, but expanding the size of the Quarian fleet. (Grunt: "I liked the part about blasting away half of the Geth. That had weight.")
Paragon Shepard would make peace with the Pinocchio Code. (Grunt: "Making peace this way was weak, Shepard." -- oh wait, this Shepard doesn't have to listen to Grunt.)
In the end....
I see destroy being chosen. Period.
* Liara, Javik, Jack, Zaeed, Grunt, Garrus, Xen (recruited instead of Tali) with a reprogrammed geth engineer under her direct control. Yeah, Xen just stays at the DZ and controls the engineer, and its turret, and remote hacks stuff. Kelly (well someone has to say "you have new messages at your private terminal"). (LIs in group -- Liara, Zaeed, Garrus, Jack (she said she was bi in ME2)) Now let's go be big goddamned heroes!
Paragon Shepard's team: Sheploo
* Traynor (you can't have Liara, instead Traynor bothers you all the time), James, Kaidan, Jacob, Kasumi, Tali, Samara, Miranda (LI in group -- Kaidan, Kasumi, Tali, Miranda)
Both: EDI.
Two different Normandys. We'd see some different results.
Renegade Sheps team would make peace without the Pinocchio Code kill the reaper and blast away enough Geth so that Xen's reprogramming could take effect and bring the rest of the geth under direct Quarian control thus not only winning back the home world for the Quarians, but expanding the size of the Quarian fleet. (Grunt: "I liked the part about blasting away half of the Geth. That had weight.")
Paragon Shepard would make peace with the Pinocchio Code. (Grunt: "Making peace this way was weak, Shepard." -- oh wait, this Shepard doesn't have to listen to Grunt.)
In the end....
I see destroy being chosen. Period.
Modifié par sH0tgUn jUliA, 12 mai 2013 - 07:47 .
#35
Posté 12 mai 2013 - 10:17
Renegade Shepard would roflstomp Paragon Shepard and his merry crew of feel-good idiots.
I don't like either extremes, but the goody two-shoe nature of the paragons almost makes me sick sometimes.
I don't like either extremes, but the goody two-shoe nature of the paragons almost makes me sick sometimes.





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