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[The Elder King]

Silfren wrote...

Silver is not a bane to mages in Dragon Age, so why exactly is this myth--and it is a myth, as vampires and werewolves do not actually exist irl--being brought up? Mages aren't supernatural creatures in Thedas, they're people who have the capacity for magic but are otherwise normal.

It was a joke in response of Qistina's post.

[Ravensword]

Magical, silvery gunpowder.

[garrusfan1]

PEOPLE LET THIS THREAD DIE

[ImperatorMortis]

garrusfan1 wrote...

PEOPLE LET THIS THREAD DIE

No. 

I find the idea that gunpowder will someone put mundanes on par with mages laughable. 

[Althix]

Silfren wrote...
 Guns take a matter of weeks.

just don't say it out loud near any soldier.

[Silfren]

garrusfan1 wrote...

PEOPLE LET THIS THREAD DIE

You don't have to participate in the thread, you know.

[Silfren]

hhh89 wrote...

Silfren wrote...

Silver is not a bane to mages in Dragon Age, so why exactly is this myth--and it is a myth, as vampires and werewolves do not actually exist irl--being brought up? Mages aren't supernatural creatures in Thedas, they're people who have the capacity for magic but are otherwise normal.

It was a joke in response of Qistina's post.

LOL.  My post was in response to Qistina's not yours.

[ArcaneJTM]

I think I just figured it out.  Introduce gunpowder to the game, outside of the Qunari.  Have all the circle of magi mass produce it.  Eventually one of the mages is going to set it off while practicing fire spells.  BOOM!!!  No more mages, thus no more discrimination against mages. 

[Harle Cerulean]

^^

That's my basic "really? are you serious?" to the idea that having gunpowder would be an advantage against mages. Just wait until they cause a spark in the container of powder you're carrying for your gun... it's like you're helping them kill you! All the carnage, less mana required.

[Giant ambush beetle]

Silfren wrote...

secretsandlies wrote...

cheaper? hmm... i don't agree.
however "YEARS" of training for militia men (cannon fodder)? doubt that.

And you'd be wrong.  Archery and sword fighting require a FAR greater investment of time to develop proficiency.  Guns take a matter of weeks.

You can learn the basics of how to fight with a sword in a matter of weeks
You can learn the basics of how to shoot a gun in a matter of weeks

To become a GOOD shot or a GOOD swordsman you need years of practice.

I'm a target shooter myself and I always laugh at people who say being a good shot is easy and can be learned in a couple of days/week. The funny thing is that those people never shot a gun in their lives and don't know what the hell they're talking about.

It takes weeks for most people to learn the proper breathing techniques, shooting stance, sight picture and especially to combat flinch. If you have mastered those things you have to learn to read the wind, how to adjust your optical and iron sights, how to shoot from sitting, leaning, standing supported, standing unsupported, prone position, how to maintain your gun, how to reload under stress, you have to learn the trajectory of the caliber using out to 500yds-800yds and how a hot barrel affects accuracy etc. etc.

[EmperorSahlertz]

secretsandlies wrote...

Silfren wrote...
 Guns take a matter of weeks.

just don't say it out loud near any soldier.

"Point and shoot", that IS the basic way to learn how to handle a gun. Now learning to aim and actually hit with any semblance of skill, will take a while.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

secretsandlies wrote...

Silfren wrote...
 Guns take a matter of weeks.

just don't say it out loud near any soldier.

"Point and shoot", that IS the basic way to learn how to handle a gun.

For centuries it was pretty much the only thing to gun training.

Early firearms had deplorable accuracy, mage fire/ice/what have you doesn't seem to have that problem.

[Boycott Bioware]

Silfren wrote...
Silver is not a bane to mages in Dragon Age, so why exactly is this myth--and it is a myth, as vampires and werewolves do not actually exist irl--being brought up? Mages aren't supernatural creatures in Thedas, they're people who have the capacity for magic but are otherwise normal.

Werewolves and vampires do exist in real life. Werewolves are actually human who bound with spirits who resembles the wolves. There are not only wolves but other animals too.

My brother was transformed into tiger in front of me in a night at my grand father house, i kick his belly. his eyes become white and he crawl in front of me, he want to jump on me, that's where i kick his belly. When he back to normal he said i look delicious, he want to eat me. Then he go to bath. I saw a black tiger spirit running away in the house.

Vampires are mostly the elites, do you know that most elites today are actually vampires? They belong to secret society that run the nations. There are vampire that have lived for so long, old and ancient, they who become the leaders of secret society that run the government. Do you ever wonder why many missing persons never found? They who steal them for their ritual. They also kept human pet and breed them to be sacrificed. Mostly the people who thy kidnapped are the lowest in the society, so people just don't care they going missing. And the police are members of this secret society...

Watch the Matrix, why Persephone (whatever her name is) always carrying the silver bullet gun? Only silver bullets can kill the agents in the Matrix. Only silver bullets can kill the Merovingians....you know who are the Merovingians in real life? In the Matrix, they are shown look like ghosts....

Like i mentioned before, what today people call as myth and legends are actually not myth and legend, it just modern people are being shaped by science, the mindset have been shaped by secret society and so they can move freely under the people nose. They are hiding in plain sight.

Similar thing will happen to Thedas, people will laughed at someone like me in future Thedas, while the same time Blood Mages sacrificing their children for dark rituals in secret basement.....

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Qistina wrote...

Similar thing will happen to Thedas, people will laughed at someone like me in future Thedas, while the same time Blood Mages sacrificing their children for dark rituals in secret basement.....

See, in future Thedas, all that will actually be happening.

On a less derogatory note, the Qunari and Tevinter don't bother to hide that magic exists, and at any rate the Templars simply can't cover it up what with little girls lighting bullies hair on fire and turning into abominations that kill 70 people in crowded cities. If there's somehow a conspiracy like you describe (which I guess I can't rule out, despite the extraordinary evidence you would need that you explain away not having) it is able to accomplish this because nothing like this happens.

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 15 mai 2013 - 03:43 .

[Silfren]

Qistina wrote...

Silfren wrote...
Silver is not a bane to mages in Dragon Age, so why exactly is this myth--and it is a myth, as vampires and werewolves do not actually exist irl--being brought up? Mages aren't supernatural creatures in Thedas, they're people who have the capacity for magic but are otherwise normal.

Werewolves and vampires do exist in real life. Werewolves are actually human who bound with spirits who resembles the wolves. There are not only wolves but other animals too.

My brother was transformed into tiger in front of me in a night at my grand father house, i kick his belly. his eyes become white and he crawl in front of me, he want to jump on me, that's where i kick his belly. When he back to normal he said i look delicious, he want to eat me. Then he go to bath. I saw a black tiger spirit running away in the house.

Vampires are mostly the elites, do you know that most elites today are actually vampires? They belong to secret society that run the nations. There are vampire that have lived for so long, old and ancient, they who become the leaders of secret society that run the government. Do you ever wonder why many missing persons never found? They who steal them for their ritual. They also kept human pet and breed them to be sacrificed. Mostly the people who thy kidnapped are the lowest in the society, so people just don't care they going missing. And the police are members of this secret society...

Watch the Matrix, why Persephone (whatever her name is) always carrying the silver bullet gun? Only silver bullets can kill the agents in the Matrix. Only silver bullets can kill the Merovingians....you know who are the Merovingians in real life? In the Matrix, they are shown look like ghosts....

Like i mentioned before, what today people call as myth and legends are actually not myth and legend, it just modern people are being shaped by science, the mindset have been shaped by secret society and so they can move freely under the people nose. They are hiding in plain sight.

Similar thing will happen to Thedas, people will laughed at someone like me in future Thedas, while the same time Blood Mages sacrificing their children for dark rituals in secret basement.....

....Like I said, someone's been reading David Icke a leeeeeeeetle bit too much.

[n7stormrunner]

Qistina wrote...
Vampires are mostly the elites, do you know that most elites today are actually vampires? They belong to secret society that run the nations. There are vampire that have lived for so long, old and ancient, they who become the leaders of secret society that run the government. Do you ever wonder why many missing persons never found? They who steal them for their ritual. They also kept human pet and breed them to be sacrificed. Mostly the people who thy kidnapped are the lowest in the society, so people just don't care they going missing. And the police are members of this secret society...

 
then with is everyone in goverment so dumb.... and why am I still alive I can't get any lower without being homeless hell I almost was.. more than once... i could buy supernatural existing but any vamp dumb enough to do the things the us goverment does would have been killed a long time ago probably by walking into a spiked pit

I'm not even going to start on the therianthropes part... 

Modifié par n7stormrunner, 15 mai 2013 - 04:30 .

[Plaintiff]

Harle Cerulean wrote...

^^

That's my basic "really? are you serious?" to the idea that having gunpowder would be an advantage against mages. Just wait until they cause a spark in the container of powder you're carrying for your gun... it's like you're helping them kill you! All the carnage, less mana required.

Being able to use barrels of gunpowder to blow up approaching mooks would be pretty awesome.

[Plaintiff]

Silfren wrote...

....Like I said, someone's been reading David Icke a leeeeeeeetle bit too much.

You blind fool! You'll see the light when our vampire president, Barackula, sneaks into your house and drains the blood from your children! Before turning into a tiger and taking a bath.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 15 mai 2013 - 05:44 .

[Boycott Bioware]

Silfren wrote...
....Like I said, someone's been reading David Icke a leeeeeeeetle bit too much.

Ah, you and your David Icke....

The Merovingians are the Gatekeeper, they who guard the Veil, the door to inter-dimensional realm where someone can travel to anywhere and everywhere, and it is also the door to the realms of spirits and demons, The Fade.

remember what i mention about "time", it is not your clock, it is not the earth rotation. Do you ever wonder why clock rotate clock-wise? It is because when things rotate clock-wise they are releasing dark energy to earth. There are many rituals require us to rotate clock-wise. But Muslims in Ka'abah rotating anti clock-wise. When we rotate anti-clock-wise positive energy is released. Ka'abah is an ancient building, the site was there since the beginning, it is the center of the earth and universe.

the Turkish Derwishes dancing by rotating anti-clockwise, it is an ancient ritual to summon positive energy into self...if you want to try, go ahead...

Do you think the war is about religions and races, the truth is it is not....

So, there are many rituals taken places in history, the most recent is 9/11, it was a mega ritual to release dark energy to earth. When dark energy is enough, they can open the Veil and all manner of The Fade creatures will come into this world. Do you notice that since 9/11 the earth is not stable? Disasters increasing, murder and killing increased, famines everywhere, war here and there, humanity dropping, corruption increasing, rebellion here and rebellion there....It is because dark energies being released to the world. When they manage to open the Veil their leader may rule in total...their Dark Messiah...the "One Eyed"

Do you know that below WTC there was an Orb that rotate clock-wise...?

The Acheh tsunami happen soon after 9/11...just ponder about that for a while...

This is scientific world, this is the world where computers exist and the internet, this is the world where people don't believe in miracles and magic, people don't believe in myth and legends, people believe magic is nonsense....but yet in their everyday life is influenced by magic and rituals...the very place they live in is designed by magic, their education is magic, their science is magic...and they are ruled by magicians, they are taught by magicians

The world is full of magic, but people don't see it because people refuse to see it....magic is unscientific they say...this is the world of science they say....

[n7stormrunner]

Qistina wrote...

remember what i mention about "time", it is not your clock, it is not the earth rotation. Do you ever wonder why clock rotate clock-wise? It is because when things rotate clock-wise they are releasing dark energy to earth. There are many rituals require us to rotate clock-wise. But Muslims in Ka'abah rotating anti clock-wise. When we rotate anti-clock-wise positive energy is released. Ka'abah is an ancient building, the site was there since the beginning, it is the center of the earth and universe.

the Turkish Derwishes dancing by rotating anti-clockwise, it is an ancient ritual to summon positive energy into self...if you want to try, go ahead...

Do you think the war is about religions and races, the truth is it is not....

uumm one clockwise is for positive energy. two I've never even heard of anti-clockwise I believe you mean counter clock wise or widdershins... which is only for curses. you really know nothing about occult and by any god you can come up with don't try to learn you'll just doom yourself...

Modifié par n7stormrunner, 15 mai 2013 - 06:36 .

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Well it's settled Qistina is either certifiably insane or a troll with supreme dedication to the role.

I'm actually hoping for the latter.

[n7stormrunner]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Well it's settled Qistina is either certifiably insane or a troll with supreme dedication to the role.

I'm actually hoping for the latter.

I am too I don't want any lovecraftian horrors running around... the economy is bad enough with more crazy people running around

[Plaintiff]

I, for one, am looking forward to seeing Cthulhu and the Merovingians doing a whirling dervish on ground zero in DA:I.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Plaintiff wrote...

I, for one, am looking forward to seeing Cthulhu and the Merovingians doing a whirling dervish on ground zero in DA:I.

You forgot the ancient vampire conspiracy lord and the weretiger.