Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...
I believe I've already said this but I'm absolutely loving the insane troll logic in this thread.
I mean magic god aliens?
Weretigers?
Copper not being an element?
F*cking golden!
Volus Warlord wrote...
So you don't find all the "I wanna bang er romance everything" threads insane, but this you find insane?
Xilizhra wrote...
Okay... so how did the divine powers get their own knowledge about magic?
Modifié par Grand Admiral Cheesecake, 22 mai 2013 - 05:32 .
Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...
Qistina your willful disregard for all logic and reason is a beacon of humor in an otherwise dark forum.
Please keep up the crazy work.
Inquisitor Recon wrote...
How did weretigers, god aliens, copper, and all of the rest get brought up in this thread?
Inquisitor Recon wrote...
How did weretigers, god aliens, copper, and all of the rest get brought up in this thread?
Qistina wrote...
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Copper and tin is far easier to work, than iron. They used iron in the Bronze Age, but not widely, and not very effectively.
Humans didn't learn to work metal until very late in our evolution. And since copper and tin can both be found naturally, and doesn't ahve to break stone for it, and both are obviously harder than stone, the first humans, did not have to think too much and long about the fact that these metals would be better for tools. After that would a period of experimenting follow, and soon they would have learned to work the metals.
And you can make a stone tool, by simply slamming two rocks together, until one of them reaches the sieze and shape you want....
How they melt copper and tin? using stone smelter?
Copper didn't appear naturally, copper is also mixture of metals
How they learn to make copper and then mix it with other metal in the right amount to create bronze and using what tool after the stone age?
Edit : the stone work (this is the right term) are made in mass amount with the same shape, same design and the same furnishing, they are not created via try and error...try to make two same stone knife design by the method you mention
........... No, copper is not a mixture of minerals, you are thinking of Bronze.... Copper, on the other hand, is an element, and it occurs naturally even on the surface, though it does occur for more commonly and in larger quantities below the surface. Also, you can work copper into shapes and simply pendants without even melting it, you would just have to work it with a stone tool, which humans had also discovered at that time.
Qistina: Copper is not an element, Cuprum, Cu 29, is the element
Volus Warlord wrote...
Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...
I believe I've already said this but I'm absolutely loving the insane troll logic in this thread.
I mean magic god aliens?
Weretigers?
Copper not being an element?
F*cking golden!
So you don't find all the "I wanna bang er romance everything" threads insane, but this you find insane?
Since there are no such threads, it would be a difficult comparison.Volus Warlord wrote...
Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...
I believe I've already said this but I'm absolutely loving the insane troll logic in this thread.
I mean magic god aliens?
Weretigers?
Copper not being an element?
F*cking golden!
So you don't find all the "I wanna bang er romance everything" threads insane, but this you find insane?
Guest_Puddi III_*
That would be more convincing if omnimancer didn't sound so badass.Ravensword wrote...
I would say that this is better than the omnimancers.
Actually, there was one.Plaintiff wrote...
So you don't find all the "I wanna bang er romance everything" threads insane, but this you find insane?/quote]
Since there are no such threads, it would be a difficult comparison.
How can you be not bound to time if it was before time existed? Logically, you can't have something happening before time exists, as it'd just start happening along with time. And what form is this knowledge in? How does it communicate?Qistina wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
Okay... so how did the divine powers get their own knowledge about magic?
Sorry i miss your question
The Divine is the source of all knowledge, before time ever existed and not bound to time
smilie........... No, copper is not a mixture of minerals, you are thinking of Bronze.... Copper, on the other hand, is an element, and it occurs naturally even on the surface, though it does occur for more commonly and in larger quantities below the surface. Also, you can work copper into shapes and simply pendants without even melting it, you would just have to work it with a stone tool, which humans had also discovered at that time.
And by the time they invented Bronze the first forges had already been created and used, so the creation of Bronze would not be that difficult. If you are asking about how they discovered it, it was simply trial and error, by mixing the two elements, copper and tin, they discovered that the alloy was a superior material for especially weapon making.
And yes, the first humans did learn to make their stone tools through trial and error, all technological advancement is through trial and error. But once they have found the proper technique, they start to mass produce, which is why all the arrowheads and spearhead and various stone tools, appear to be of the same shape, roughly anyway.
Modifié par Qistina, 22 mai 2013 - 01:09 .
This. Gravity is also termed a 'theory', Quistina, but I would strongly suggest against scoffing at it.Joy Divison wrote...
^^^ I would try and help enlighten you, but my previous experience "discussing" things with you has led me to believe you are guilty of what it is you accuse everyone else of doing, believing what they want to believe in.
If you really want to know, the first thing I'd do is take the time to investigate exactly what a theory is in science. You seem to be under the impression it is something little more than a guess without much supporting evidence. That is *not* what a theory is in the scientific community. in fact, it is almost precisely the opposite. For something to be labeled a theory in science, there has to be a fairly strong standard of proof to make said theory viable.
Copper was not the first metal humans worked... The very first metal we effectively worked was gold, which also occurs naturally on the surface, the second was meteoric iron (that is iron from metorites if you have any doubts), which is the only form of iron to occur "naturally" on the surface. Then humans discovered copper. Now you have gold, which is a beautiful element, but it is not very common, so using it for tools or weapons was not feasible, since the rarity of the metal, made it very attractive for kings and chiefs to obtain jewelry made of the metal. Iron, was hard and strong, but very hard to properly work in the primitive forges of that time, and it was extremely rare to find any, given its meteoric origins. However iron was not beautiful like gold, so what little iron that was possessed by the early humans, was often made into tools, or even more often weapons, since iron weapons was without equal at that time. Copper on the other hand is both beautiful and hard, and even better it is very common, and easy to work, this lead to the widespread use of copper in jewelry crafting, tool crafting and weaponsmithing, and this lead to the start of the copper age.Qistina wrote...
smilie........... No, copper is not a mixture of minerals, you are thinking of Bronze.... Copper, on the other hand, is an element, and it occurs naturally even on the surface, though it does occur for more commonly and in larger quantities below the surface. Also, you can work copper into shapes and simply pendants without even melting it, you would just have to work it with a stone tool, which humans had also discovered at that time.
And by the time they invented Bronze the first forges had already been created and used, so the creation of Bronze would not be that difficult. If you are asking about how they discovered it, it was simply trial and error, by mixing the two elements, copper and tin, they discovered that the alloy was a superior material for especially weapon making.
And yes, the first humans did learn to make their stone tools through trial and error, all technological advancement is through trial and error. But once they have found the proper technique, they start to mass produce, which is why all the arrowheads and spearhead and various stone tools, appear to be of the same shape, roughly anyway.
okay, let say you are right and i am wrong about copper, fine...but the question remain, why would the ancient human want to meddling with copper if it was so easy to find on the surface? If it is so easy to find on surface why they don't use it before? Why must wait for a very long time and use stone work first then using copper?
If you say human not yet developed to think about using copper then that just assumption, there is no evidence to support it. And if you say earth don't pour out copper on the surface that is also assumption and no evidence to support it.
Again, what tool human use to forging metals. Why and how human around world thinking the same thing? The world is big, human is not just one or two community but spreading and not meet with each other, but human in Asia and in West thinking the same thing that is playing with copper and stones?
Joy Divison wrote...
^^^ I would try and help enlighten you, but my previous experience "discussing" things with you has led me to believe you are guilty of what it is you accuse everyone else of doing, believing what they want to believe in.
If you really want to know, the first thing I'd do is take the time to investigate exactly what a theory is in science. You seem to be under the impression it is something little more than a guess without much supporting evidence. That is *not* what a theory is in the scientific community. in fact, it is almost precisely the opposite. For something to be labeled a theory in science, there has to be a fairly strong standard of proof to make said theory viable.
Plaintiff wrote...
Since there are no such threads, it would be a difficult comparison.Volus Warlord wrote...
Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...
I believe I've already said this but I'm absolutely loving the insane troll logic in this thread.
I mean magic god aliens?
Weretigers?
Copper not being an element?
F*cking golden!
So you don't find all the "I wanna bang er romance everything" threads insane, but this you find insane?
Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...
I'm still trying to decide if I'm going weretiger hunting or evil vampire alien hunting.
I'd get a bad ass coat from the former but the latter would probably be more fun to kill...
Decisions decisions.
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