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[Mello]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

EA will require it in some form.
That was decided.
shrugs.

But why? Why is it required? Why is it that they need to add MP to everything? Are they just adding it in the hope that some day some game will be a hit or something? Add it to as many games as possible and hope that one of them turns out to be COD or something?

Because..

[Angrywolves]

Great minds think alike.
Rotfl.
Nickle and diming the mp fans.
And they will pay.

[Sanunes]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

EA will require it in some form.
That was decided.
shrugs.

But why? Why is it required? Why is it that they need to add MP to everything? Are they just adding it in the hope that some day some game will be a hit or something? Add it to as many games as possible and hope that one of them turns out to be COD or something?

Here is the quote I think Angrywolves is referring too.

Frank Gibeau wrote...
I have not green lit one game to be developed as a single player experience. Today, all of our games include online applications and digital services that make them live 24/7/365.

Now, to me online component doesn't mean multiplayer for I consider both Dragon Age: Origins and Dragon Age 2 had online components with their Flash and Facebook games, so we really don't know what is really going to happen yet.

Source

[leaguer of one]

AresKeith wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

EA will require it in some form.
That was decided.
shrugs.

But why? Why is it required? Why is it that they need to add MP to everything? Are they just adding it in the hope that some day some game will be a hit or something? Add it to as many games as possible and hope that one of them turns out to be COD or something?

Microtransactions, possibly an online pass

1.Microtransactions are optional to use. BW has show with ME3 that it won't be a problem.
2. EA's online pass system is dead.

[Angrywolves]

The fear was that MP would be tied to SP like it was in that silly galactic readiness stuff from ME3.
I doubt Bioware would repeat that mistake.
Rotfl .
As for MP people can interprete Gibeau's comments that it doesn't mean MP if they like.
shrugs.
Time will tell.

[AresKeith]

leaguer of one wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

EA will require it in some form.
That was decided.
shrugs.

But why? Why is it required? Why is it that they need to add MP to everything? Are they just adding it in the hope that some day some game will be a hit or something? Add it to as many games as possible and hope that one of them turns out to be COD or something?

Microtransactions, possibly an online pass

1.Microtransactions are optional to use. BW has show with ME3 that it won't be a problem.
2. EA's online pass system is dead.

1. That still doesn't make EA's reasons for adding it to all their games less true

2. I'll fully believe it when I don't see it in DA:I

[leaguer of one]

AresKeith wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

EA will require it in some form.
That was decided.
shrugs.

But why? Why is it required? Why is it that they need to add MP to everything? Are they just adding it in the hope that some day some game will be a hit or something? Add it to as many games as possible and hope that one of them turns out to be COD or something?

Microtransactions, possibly an online pass

1.Microtransactions are optional to use. BW has show with ME3 that it won't be a problem.
2. EA's online pass system is dead.

1. That still doesn't make EA's reasons for adding it to all their games less true

2. I'll fully believe it when I don't see it in DA:I

1.Optional =to bad? 
2. Name the last ea game with it.

[AresKeith]

leaguer of one wrote...

1.Optional =to bad? 
2. Name the last ea game with it.

1. Your missing the point, you're assuming we're calling it bad when all we're saying is that microtransactions are one of the reasons EA wants MP in all their games. Regardless of it being optional 

2. I wouldn't really know the last EA game I bought was ME3 since I don't really play EA games

[leaguer of one]

AresKeith wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

1.Optional =to bad? 
2. Name the last ea game with it.

1. Your missing the point, you're assuming we're calling it bad when all we're saying is that microtransactions are one of the reasons EA wants MP in all their games. Regardless of it being optional 

2. I wouldn't really know the last EA game I bought was ME3 since I don't really play EA games

1.Ok, it's pretty clear thing to see they are doing it for the money.
2. Then stop saying they still going to do it.

[AresKeith]

leaguer of one wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

1.Optional =to bad? 
2. Name the last ea game with it.

1. Your missing the point, you're assuming we're calling it bad when all we're saying is that microtransactions are one of the reasons EA wants MP in all their games. Regardless of it being optional 

2. I wouldn't really know the last EA game I bought was ME3 since I don't really play EA games

1.Ok, it's pretty clear thing to see they are doing it for the money.
2. Then stop saying they still going to do it.

1. And not every game needs a MP

2. I never said they're still going to do it, I said "possibly an online pass" meaning they may or may not

Your assuming things again

[leaguer of one]

AresKeith wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

1.Optional =to bad? 
2. Name the last ea game with it.

1. Your missing the point, you're assuming we're calling it bad when all we're saying is that microtransactions are one of the reasons EA wants MP in all their games. Regardless of it being optional 

2. I wouldn't really know the last EA game I bought was ME3 since I don't really play EA games

1.Ok, it's pretty clear thing to see they are doing it for the money.
2. Then stop saying they still going to do it.

1. And not every game needs a MP

2. I never said they're still going to do it, I said "possibly an online pass" meaning they may or may not

Your assuming things again

1. And you don't have to play the mp if a game has it.
2.Then stop using is as a point ageinst mp.

[AresKeith]

leaguer of one wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

1.Optional =to bad? 
2. Name the last ea game with it.

1. Your missing the point, you're assuming we're calling it bad when all we're saying is that microtransactions are one of the reasons EA wants MP in all their games. Regardless of it being optional 

2. I wouldn't really know the last EA game I bought was ME3 since I don't really play EA games

1.Ok, it's pretty clear thing to see they are doing it for the money.
2. Then stop saying they still going to do it.

1. And not every game needs a MP

2. I never said they're still going to do it, I said "possibly an online pass" meaning they may or may not

Your assuming things again

1. And you don't have to play the mp if a game has it.
2.Then stop using is as a point ageinst mp.

/facepalm 

[leaguer of one]

AresKeith wrote...


/facepalm 

1.Sorry, you have not given one reason why you can't just ignore the mp since you don't like it.
2. It's clear you do have an agenda ageinst mp.

[The Flying Grey Warden]

Would you just shut up and have hate sex already.

[leaguer of one]

The Flying Grey Warden wrote...

Would you just shut up and have hate sex already.

Does AresKeith look like Merille?

[The Flying Grey Warden]

leaguer of one wrote...

The Flying Grey Warden wrote...

Would you just shut up and have hate sex already.

Does AresKeith look like Merille?

No. He looks like a pie.

[Angrywolves]

True nobody has to play MP unless Bioware makes the mistake again of tying it to SP.
Admittedly unlikely.
Of course if there is MP the SP players could argue that MP development is using time, manpower, and resources that could have been added to SP.
A rational argument, albeit a fruitless one.
If MP is there it's there and players who want it can pay for it.

[Blessed Silence]

I would be happy with no MP. Didn't play it in ME series as I felt it took away from the game ... especially ME3.

[Sanunes]

Angrywolves wrote...

True nobody has to play MP unless Bioware makes the mistake again of tying it to SP.
Admittedly unlikely.
Of course if there is MP the SP players could argue that MP development is using time, manpower, and resources that could have been added to SP.
A rational argument, albeit a fruitless one.
If MP is there it's there and players who want it can pay for it.

Funny, I was able to get every ending in the game besides one for Mass Effect 3 without multiplayer and the one I didn't get was a 10 second addition to one I could get.

People who keep saying that the resources from MP could be used for SP are making guesses that aren't likely to be true, for budgets generally are done on a per item basis, so if there wasn't MP the money given to BioWare probably would be less not the same amount.

You're right they should remove features that people won't use or don't want.  So for me they should remove the multiple protagionist race option and since over 50% of the people that play a BioWare game don't finish it they should remove the ending too and if people actually want those things they should be charged for them.

[The Flying Grey Warden]

I love how people just assume the assets and resources that would be used for MP would somehow magically be put into the SP portion of development if MP didn't exist, and not say transfered to various other divisions and projects currently ongoing in bioware as we speak, like the new IP project or the next mass effect game.

Lots of assumptions for everyone.

[Paul E Dangerously]

The Flying Grey Warden wrote...

I love how people just assume the assets and resources that would be used for MP would somehow magically be put into the SP portion of development if MP didn't exist, and not say transfered to various other divisions and projects currently ongoing in bioware as we speak, like the new IP project or the next mass effect game.

Lots of assumptions for everyone.

It's not a basless speculation. Generally, the more effort a game has put toward multiplayer, the less it has put toward the SP campaign. This is even true in Bioware history, because compare BG1/2 (games that simply "have" multiplayer) to Neverwinter Nights (a game designed primarily for multiplayer).

[Blood drinker 7777]

thx god for no multiplayer in dragon age 3

[74 Wrex]

Multiplayer has no place for RPG games like Dragon Age because what makes Dragon Age good is the different choices, different outcomes, different endings and unique characters which Multiplayer cannot have and the combat system Dragon Age has cannot work on Multiplayer.
Multiplayer + Dragon Age Inquistion= EPIC FAIL

Modifié par 74 Wrex, 11 août 2013 - 12:06 .

[Examurai]

Sopa de Gato wrote...

The Flying Grey Warden wrote...

I love how people just assume the assets and resources that would be used for MP would somehow magically be put into the SP portion of development if MP didn't exist, and not say transfered to various other divisions and projects currently ongoing in bioware as we speak, like the new IP project or the next mass effect game.

Lots of assumptions for everyone.

It's not a basless speculation. Generally, the more effort a game has put toward multiplayer, the less it has put toward the SP campaign. This is even true in Bioware history, because compare BG1/2 (games that simply "have" multiplayer) to Neverwinter Nights (a game designed primarily for multiplayer).

I think he was talking about budget wise. People are assuming that if there was no MP, the budget that would have gone there would have went to SP instead, which is not the case. 
And even if there was MP they would have their own division anyways like with ME3. So it would not impede the SP development.

[Sanunes]

Sopa de Gato wrote...

The Flying Grey Warden wrote...

I love how people just assume the assets and resources that would be used for MP would somehow magically be put into the SP portion of development if MP didn't exist, and not say transfered to various other divisions and projects currently ongoing in bioware as we speak, like the new IP project or the next mass effect game.

Lots of assumptions for everyone.

It's not a basless speculation. Generally, the more effort a game has put toward multiplayer, the less it has put toward the SP campaign. This is even true in Bioware history, because compare BG1/2 (games that simply "have" multiplayer) to Neverwinter Nights (a game designed primarily for multiplayer).

I don't see how your example proves that if they didn't have multiplayer in Neverwinter Nights they would have put that money/effort/time towards single player, just that the focus of the game was towards a multiplayer experience.