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[ToLazy4Name]

Air Quotes wrote...

Would be a good guide. But lolReegar makes it bad.

You're not using a Claymore with Batarian Gauntlet on a VanGod. You're doing it wrong.

I said that the Reegar is what is most effective, as it is on alot of classes (Kroguard comes to mind) , but I also said that you can use whatever the heck you want and it'll still be effective. 

[ToLazy4Name]

Air Quotes wrote...

ToLazy4Name wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Would be a good guide. But lolReegar makes it bad.

You're not using a Claymore with Batarian Gauntlet on a VanGod. You're doing it wrong.

I said that the Reegar is what is most effective, as it is on alot of classes (Kroguard comes to mind) , but I also said that you can use whatever the heck you want and it'll still be effective. 

 

I'm wodering what you call effective. 

Some can score 100k on U/U/G and call it good 

Some have to score 200k+ to call it good

Able to keep pace with other good classes if playing with equally skilled individuals with a good connection to the host. 

[FlowCytometry]

nice guide overall; hope more people stumble upon it cause volus tend not to be played that well in public lobbies

[Malanek]

The Volus Adept is a great detonator with Incendiary ammo or on a biotic team. Biotic orbs is good for more than simply cooldowns.

[oO Stryfe Oo]

Malanek999 wrote...

The Volus Adept is a great detonator with Incendiary ammo or on a biotic team. Biotic orbs is good for more than simply cooldowns.

If I'm not mistaken, they do more damage than Seeker Swarm.

...Seeker Swarm sucks.

[ToLazy4Name]

Malanek999 wrote...

The Volus Adept is a great detonator with Incendiary ammo or on a biotic team. Biotic orbs is good for more than simply cooldowns.

Not as effective (IMO) as simply using him as a weapons platform, and as stated, you CAN use debuff orbs for extra boss killing potential. 

Also, playing him as a Biotic makes him reliant on team mates to work in tandem with him. 

[Malanek]

ToLazy4Name wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

The Volus Adept is a great detonator with Incendiary ammo or on a biotic team. Biotic orbs is good for more than simply cooldowns.

Not as effective (IMO) as simply using him as a weapons platform, and as stated, you CAN use debuff orbs for extra boss killing potential. 

Also, playing him as a Biotic makes him reliant on team mates to work in tandem with him. 

By the same logic why use him as a weapons platform when it isn't as effective as a turian ghost or geth infiltrator? Different kits exist to use their powers and add gameplay variety. For a Volus guide I think it is worth mentioning the cooldownless potential of biotic  orbs as a detonator. Like you this is just my opinion, but I think that if the most distinctive part of the kit.

[Original Twigman]

Malanek999 wrote...

ToLazy4Name wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

The Volus Adept is a great detonator with Incendiary ammo or on a biotic team. Biotic orbs is good for more than simply cooldowns.

Not as effective (IMO) as simply using him as a weapons platform, and as stated, you CAN use debuff orbs for extra boss killing potential. 

Also, playing him as a Biotic makes him reliant on team mates to work in tandem with him. 

By the same logic why use him as a weapons platform when it isn't as effective as a turian ghost or geth infiltrator? Different kits exist to use their powers and add gameplay variety. For a Volus guide I think it is worth mentioning the cooldownless potential of biotic  orbs as a detonator. Like you this is just my opinion, but I think that if the most distinctive part of the kit.

its his guide...

said it many times, but i got a buddy who uses a biotic orbs-less adept and rocks platinum on it with no real issues.... so...... whatever works

[ToLazy4Name]

Malanek999 wrote...

ToLazy4Name wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

The Volus Adept is a great detonator with Incendiary ammo or on a biotic team. Biotic orbs is good for more than simply cooldowns.

Not as effective (IMO) as simply using him as a weapons platform, and as stated, you CAN use debuff orbs for extra boss killing potential. 

Also, playing him as a Biotic makes him reliant on team mates to work in tandem with him. 

By the same logic why use him as a weapons platform when it isn't as effective as a turian ghost or geth infiltrator? Different kits exist to use their powers and add gameplay variety. For a Volus guide I think it is worth mentioning the cooldownless potential of biotic  orbs as a detonator. Like you this is just my opinion, but I think that if the most distinctive part of the kit.

My logic was focusing on efficiency using the character, not differentiating him from other characters. I believe the Adept does differentiate himself from other weapons platforms enough that not playing him as a Biotic can feel different and fun when compared to something like a Ghost, due to the fact that he can recover his Shields without having to use an item or Biotic Charge. This, coupled with the fact that he can turn invisible and tank very well, as well as destroy mooks with a good weapon, make Phantoms irrelevant with Stasis, and dish out respectable damage to bosses with debuff orbs makes him a very good weapons platform. 

Of course, i'm not saying any of this to try and change your mind, i'm just explaining my thought process. Playing him as a Biotic is perfectly viable, and if your really good at it and find it more enjoyable/effective, then by all means, do your thing. As long as you're not a Shield Boost spamming nitwit, you're alright in my book. 

[KalilKareem]

Air Quotes wrote...

Would be a good guide. But lolReegar makes it bad.

You're not using a Claymore with Batarian Gauntlet on a VanGod. You're doing it wrong.

Thing with reegar is that it synergizes really well both the light melee cloak and the invunerability frames. In my humble opinion the unique ability to exploit the lolreegar is mostly what makes the volusi competitive on higher difficulties.

[Jamesui]

KalilKareem wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Would be a good guide. But lolReegar makes it bad.

You're not using a Claymore with Batarian Gauntlet on a VanGod. You're doing it wrong.

Thing with reegar is that it synergizes really well both the light melee cloak and the invunerability frames. In my humble opinion the unique ability to exploit the lolreegar is mostly what makes the volusi competitive on higher difficulties.

I post this knowing exactly how much a pompous ass it will make me seem, but I've seen enough "Volusi" or "Atli" or even "Nemesi" that my sense of impotent but righteous anger has switched from outrage over Fox News and murderous dictators to annoyance over improper pluralization as a fuel source. 

[root]us words pluralize as [root]i, and even then only when the base word derives from a second declension Latin noun. E.g. Alumnus -> Alumni, but sinus (4th declension) -> sinuses. Volus, if we even impose a de-facto Latin derivation, becomes Voli.

Don't get me started on Atlases and Nemeses. 

Everyone, I apologize for not shackling my inner grammar not sea in the dungeon where he belongs.

On topic: The nutpuncher (Claymore or Crusader with the omniblade) is my volus of choice, followed closely by the mercenary with the scorpion and the CSMG. 

[KalilKareem]

Jamesui wrote...

KalilKareem wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Would be a good guide. But lolReegar makes it bad.

You're not using a Claymore with Batarian Gauntlet on a VanGod. You're doing it wrong.

Thing with reegar is that it synergizes really well both the light melee cloak and the invunerability frames. In my humble opinion the unique ability to exploit the lolreegar is mostly what makes the volusi competitive on higher difficulties.

I post this knowing exactly how much a pompous ass it will make me seem, but I've seen enough "Volusi" or "Atli" or even "Nemesi" that my sense of impotent but righteous anger has switched from outrage over Fox News and murderous dictators to annoyance over improper pluralization as a fuel source. 

[root]us words pluralize as [root]i, and even then only when the base word derives from a second declension Latin noun. E.g. Alumnus -> Alumni, but sinus (4th declension) -> sinuses. Volus, if we even impose a de-facto Latin derivation, becomes Voli.

Don't get me started on Atlases and Nemeses. 

Everyone, I apologize for not shackling my inner grammar not sea in the dungeon where he belongs.

On topic: The nutpuncher (Claymore or Crusader with the omniblade) is my volus of choice, followed closely by the mercenary with the scorpion and the CSMG. 

I love the smell of rustled jimmies in the morning. It smells like .... victory.

[Jamesui]

KalilKareem wrote...

I love the smell of rustled jimmies in the morning. It smells like .... victory.

You try studying Latin for five years and see if it doesn't instill in you a linguistc dickishness. It's a curse!

[KalilKareem]

Jamesui wrote...

KalilKareem wrote...

I love the smell of rustled jimmies in the morning. It smells like .... victory.

You try studying Latin for five years and see if it doesn't instill in you a linguistc dickishness. It's a curse!

Out of curiosity; can you restrain yourself from whispering"et tu" everytime you are synced by a brute?

[Donkamen]

Excellent guides, something a lot of people could learn from (I'm talking to you Pugs). Thank god someone else likes playing the Volus as something other than a shield pylon.

[Jamesui]

KalilKareem wrote...

Jamesui wrote...

KalilKareem wrote...

I love the smell of rustled jimmies in the morning. It smells like .... victory.

You try studying Latin for five years and see if it doesn't instill in you a linguistc dickishness. It's a curse!

Out of curiosity; can you restrain yourself from whispering"et tu" everytime you are synced by a brute?

I do so by avoiding being synced by brutes. Also, they aren't named Brutus, nor do I have some expectation that they won't try to kill me. 

Modifié par Jamesui, 13 mai 2013 - 06:34 .

[N7Kopper]

Volus Adept, obsolete? HERESY! (*blam*) One must always revere the original Biotic God, Niftu Cal!
...ahem. Yes, I guess that's somewhat true, but if you go for the Invisible Nutcracker build, (and who doesn't? Ninja cloak, cannonball smash, heavy biotic groin fist of your head asplodiness FTW!) than that leaves the Adept to do conventional biotic goddish things. Like fry everyone with Force Lightning from an invisible lolReegar while tossing Blue Balls of Defence Reduction +5 at giant mechs, stopping Phantoms in their tracks with sheer animal magnetism, and throwing up biotic barriers of the kind that'd stop a Reaper laser, much less that Banshee's Warp or Phantom's sword stab.

Oh, and picking up that lousy Tuchanka-clan pyjak of the ground for the fiftieth time because he keept trying to act like you. Hot tip: Only pretenders use hammers.

[ROBOTICSUPERMAN]

If your using the adept with the debuff orbs, is it better to use all the debuffs at once for huge debuff, or stagger the debuff to give less debuff but over a longer period?

[FlowCytometry]

ToLazy4Name wrote...

Of course, i'm not saying any of this to try and change your mind, i'm just explaining my thought process. Playing him as a Biotic is perfectly viable, and if your really good at it and find it more enjoyable/effective, then by all means, do your thing. As long as you're not a Shield Boost spamming nitwit, you're alright in my book.

eh.. Bubble stasis is good, but in a sense if you play the Voldept like a biotic his usefulness really only extends as far as what stasis works on. For everything else, you mine as well play the VolEng or VolGod if ya still want some volus 'support' abilities, or play a diff adept kit for an effective biotic. He's just much better (though more bland) as a stealthy weapons user w/ SB then as a biotic, imo.

[Veno CRX]

Superb stuff mate much appreciated.

[Moby]

I really like these styles for the volus characters! It's quite fun. I tried all of them, and as usual I only have trouble with the mobile Engi. Gonna work on that though.

Thanks for the post. This differs greatly from how I normally volus, so it's nice to try new things.

[Moby]

I have to ask, what should I be doing with the Engi when I don't have a proper preemptive Recon Mine down? I've been putting down the Recon where the spawn actually is and waiting for cooldown, so that I can Proxy when I attack. It kinda throws me off though because faster spawns such as those with Praetorians or Phantoms tend to spread out beyond my effective debuff zone and I can't kill stuff as quickly.  It either gets me killed or I end up wiping half the spawn alone before a buddy shows up and mops up with me.

Should I just chuck a Proxy and go with the attack, or let them spread out some and take 'em out separately?

Like I said, Engi is the toughest mobile volus for me. 

Modifié par MofuggerX, 13 mai 2013 - 10:59 .

[ToLazy4Name]

MofuggerX wrote...

I have to ask, what should I be doing with the Engi when I don't have a proper preemptive Recon Mine down? I've been putting down the Recon where the spawn actually is and waiting for cooldown, so that I can Proxy when I attack. It kinda throws me off though because faster spawns such as those with Praetorians or Phantoms tend to spread out beyond my effective debuff zone and I can't kill stuff as quickly.  It either gets me killed or I end up wiping half the spawn alone before a buddy shows up and mops up with me.

Should I just chuck a Proxy and go with the attack, or let them spread out some and take 'em out separately?

Like I said, Engi is the toughest mobile volus for me. 

You're asking what should you do if you're encountering a spawn or a large group of enemies, but you don't already have a Recon Mine down? Just wanna make sure I get what you're asking before giving advice.