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[Jeremiah12LGeek]

I just played on off-host Cabal at level 8 with no gun mods or gear and a Vindicator I.

Went okay. Managed to do everything I needed to. Things weren't ideal, but I was only facing mild, occasional lag. I wasn't using PS very much, mind you, except a little here and there.

I love the Cabal as a melee character. I think PS is problematic as an offensive power, but It's more reliable as a defensive one than her teleport dodge is. For me, anyway.

I'm going to keep plugging away.

I don't do the "worst class" or "worst kit" thing, though. I've been carried by a Volus Sentinel. Every kit shines in the right hands. I think attempting to rank them will only ever reveal a cross-section between popularity and ease-of-use.

Modifié par Jeremiah12LGeek, 11 mai 2013 - 11:19 .

[ALTBOULI]

Thanks for the tips, I mainly use PS for mobility anyway so 3 points should be sufficient

[billy the squid]

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

I just played on off-host Cabal at level 8 with no gun mods or gear and a Vindicator I.

Went okay. Managed to do everything I needed to. Things weren't ideal, but I was only facing mild, occasional lag. I wasn't using PS very much, mind you, except a little here and there.

I love the Cabal as a melee character. I think PS is problematic as an offensive power, but It's more reliable as a defensive one than her teleport dodge is. For me, anyway.

I'm going to keep plugging away.

I don't do the "worst class" or "worst kit" thing, though. I've been carried by a Volus Sentinel. Every kit shines in the right hands. I think attempting to rank them will only ever reveal a cross-section between popularity and ease-of-use.

PS works a lot better when teamed with a shotgun build. PS to close the distance open fire for max effext, if you get hit, BF to get the invincibility frame and shield regen vs DoT, then fire or dodge out/ PS through them out of the way. NSB vs Phantoms then a shotgun shell to the paralysed face. 

She's fun, and one of the Vanguards I can actually use without too much noticable impact if lag kicks in, unless it gets really bad.

[Ziegrif]

I just stuck a Javelin on her.
The free wall hax from Biotic focus is nice.

[Ledgend1221]

Geth soldier says: "Lolwut?"

[Terminator Force]

Man. If poison AT LEAST slowed down bosses to let you shoot them for longer. Or debuffed for like 20% more damage. But no. Nothing. 

Ugh, wouldn't another too OP character been a bad thing? You know, as BSN says "not another crutch character."

To me this character seems just right for long term players, like intended (or BioWare likes us to believe). Why so much complaining?


And if this character is too complex for noobs as myself, then it's ok, what's the hurry? Cause once I know this game too well, it's one step too closer to stop playing this game.

[Faust29A]

Ziegrif wrote...

I just stuck a Javelin on her.
The free wall hax from Biotic focus is nice.

I've seen the videos. Is there anything you don't stick a Javelin on? 

[sr2josh]

MasterReefa wrote...

Makai81 wrote...

IamZAE wrote...

Makai81 wrote...

tetsutsuru wrote...

And don't give me the "L2P" BSN horsecrap.  Her Powers are not rocket science to figure out how to use.  A pure-DOT kit has NO place in ME3MP.

Poison Strike:  DOT.
Nightshade Blades:  DOT.
Biotic Focus:  ONLY good for Barrier recharge to keep you alive.  It's actually the ONE good thing about her, specially on-host.
Venom Gauntlets:  DOT.

It's not at all that, "she can't kill", or "I can't kill with her".  Because I *can*.  But moreso that she's just a stupid kit for "multiplayer".  The Volus AT LEAST effectively fills the niche of a Support kit.  The Cabal Turian?  She f*cking sucks.  She doesn't even synergize with herself.

It makes me sad but, I'm giving up on her.

The Cabal is a very good Vanguard.  Besides we all know hands down what the worst kit ever is:

*snip*

You are truly, and sincerely, ephing retarded. Why don't you learn how to play the kit before you cast judgement, then you will learn the talon mercenary is an absolute BEAST who can easily carry platinum if you have the skill to stay alive, and I do mean EASILY carry platinum.

Reported.

I reported you for sucking.

Your comment says it all.

http://replygif.net/i/919

[Ziegrif]

Faust29A wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

I just stuck a Javelin on her.
The free wall hax from Biotic focus is nice.

I've seen the videos. Is there anything you don't stick a Javelin on? 

No my dear.~
The Javelin goes EVERYWHERE.~
*Arm flail*

[HereticBrony]

l2p
OP is the biggest bundle of sticks on the far side of the Ugandan River only accessible through an elaborate tunnel of Zulu tribesman carrying flamethrowers that shoot tiny fire-breathing dragons who explode on sight of how horribly awful he is an anything he's ever tried or ever will.
I bid you good day, sir.

[FlowCytometry]

HereticBrony wrote...

l2p
OP is the biggest bundle of sticks on the far side of the Ugandan River only accessible through an elaborate tunnel of Zulu tribesman carrying flamethrowers that shoot tiny fire-breathing dragons who explode on sight of how horribly awful he is an anything he's ever tried or ever will.
I bid you good day, sir.

yes, but we must tackle an even more important issue here: will the tiny fire-breathing dragons blend?

[HereticBrony]

FlowCytometry wrote...

HereticBrony wrote...

l2p
OP is the biggest bundle of sticks on the far side of the Ugandan River only accessible through an elaborate tunnel of Zulu tribesman carrying flamethrowers that shoot tiny fire-breathing dragons who explode on sight of how horribly awful he is an anything he's ever tried or ever will.
I bid you good day, sir.

yes, but we must tackle an even more important issue here: will the tiny fire-breathing dragons blend?

On the Winter Solstice.

[Mgamerz]

I can't hear what you're saying OP over the huge amounts of WAAAAHHH on the first page of this thread.

[Mister Blip]

tetsutsuru wrote...

ToLazy4Name wrote...

1. You're an idiot who should l2p

2. Volus are not support kits.

1.  Know who you're talking to.

2.  Volus are DESIGNED to be Support kits, PER BIOWARE DEVELOPERS.  Players that can make Volus kits awesome, are good players.

3.  STFU since you're obviously ignorant.

And people believe I am being a troll and/or arrogant. Civility would go a long way. If you intend things like "l2p scrub" to be taken as tongue in cheek, some will still misinterpret and get mad, mostly due to fragile egos. But you're just antagonizing people.

[Faust29A]

Ziegrif wrote...

*snip*

No my dear.~
The Javelin goes EVERYWHERE.~
*Arm flail*

And this, Ziegrif, is the reason you're my hero.

[planehazza]

Can't be arsed to read the whole thing. When I first started playing Cabal Vanguard I wasn't keen at first. Now I love playing that character. Take out spawns with nightshade blades, and use poison strike to toy with brutes Wait for them to charge, then charge right back through them

Biotic Focus is nice for regenerating shields.

[Saryad]

tetsutsuru wrote...

ToLazy4Name wrote...

1. You're an idiot who should l2p

2. Volus are not support kits.

1.  Know who you're talking to.

2.  Volus are DESIGNED to be Support kits, PER BIOWARE DEVELOPERS.  Players that can make Volus kits awesome, are good players.

3.  STFU since you're obviously ignorant.

Wow you really are an opinionated ****.

P.S. L2p noob

[hostaman]

Ok, lets look at this post.

"The Turian Cabal is the dumbest kit ever introduced into ME3MP. Period."   possibly should have been followed by "discuss....",  otherwise it simply trys to be a statement of fact.

I admit I can't play the Cabal.  I've tried to L2P her, but I just can't get the hang.  That makes me an average player - and I'm happy with that.

I did however have the fortune to watch an expert play her in a Gold game - Glacier - Cerberus.  The guy absolutely owned the game, teleporting all over the map and using the Venom strike to mop up.


There's no shame in admitting that you can't play a character very well,  but there is shame in setting up an obvious troll thread to try to get a rise out of posters willing to take the bait.

[tetsutsuru]

hostaman wrote...

Ok, lets look at this post.

"The Turian Cabal is the dumbest kit ever introduced into ME3MP. Period."   possibly should have been followed by "discuss....",  otherwise it simply trys to be a statement of fact.

I admit I can't play the Cabal.  I've tried to L2P her, but I just can't get the hang.  That makes me an average player - and I'm happy with that.

I did however have the fortune to watch an expert play her in a Gold game - Glacier - Cerberus.  The guy absolutely owned the game, teleporting all over the map and using the Venom strike to mop up.


There's no shame in admitting that you can't play a character very well,  but there is shame in setting up an obvious troll thread to try to get a rise out of posters willing to take the bait.

I have several screenshots I can upload and post in here where I scored the most using the Cabal.  However, topping the scoreboards does not connote nor denote a smooth gameplay.  Since score means absolutely nothing in this game, it doesn't help her case.

I currently have her at 6/0/6/6/6, and am about to burn yet another re-spec card on her and move all points out of Poison Strike and into Nighshade Blades, and see how that'll work.  Why I haven't done that yet is because I landed at the same conclusion as to what Air Quotes said, "she needs both Geth Scanner and Genade Capacity" for that build to be effective.

I can very easily make her a weapons platform.  But in doing so, what will that make of her PS and BF?  It turns them into useless waste of points.  I use kits for what Powers they have synergy with.  N7 Destroyer?  Guns, shoot and shoot some more.  GI?  Sniper-Javelin synergy with Proximity Mine debuff.  N7 Fury?  Rapid and successive Biotic Explosions everywhere.

I'm not going to give my N7 Fury a Claymore and do near 100% of her kills via Claymore.  That's easy to do, but that's not what she's designed to do.

Modifié par tetsutsuru, 12 mai 2013 - 05:30 .

[tetsutsuru]

Air Quotes wrote...

tetsutsuru wrote...

hostaman wrote...

Ok, lets look at this post.

"The Turian Cabal is the dumbest kit ever introduced into ME3MP. Period."   possibly should have been followed by "discuss....",  otherwise it simply trys to be a statement of fact.

I admit I can't play the Cabal.  I've tried to L2P her, but I just can't get the hang.  That makes me an average player - and I'm happy with that.

I did however have the fortune to watch an expert play her in a Gold game - Glacier - Cerberus.  The guy absolutely owned the game, teleporting all over the map and using the Venom strike to mop up.


There's no shame in admitting that you can't play a character very well,  but there is shame in setting up an obvious troll thread to try to get a rise out of posters willing to take the bait.

I have several screenshots I can upload and post in here where I scored the most using the Cabal.  However, topping the scoreboards does not connote nor denote a smooth gameplay.  Since score means absolutely nothing in this game, it doesn't help her case.

I currently have her at 6/0/6/6/6, and am about to burn yet another re-spec card on her and move all points out of Poison Strike and into Nighshade Blades, and see how that'll work.  Why I haven't done that yet is because I landed at the same conclusion as to what Air Quotes said, "she needs both Geth Scanner and Genade Capacity" for that build to be effective.

I can very easily make her a weapons platform.  But in doing so, what will that make of her PS and BF?  It turns them into useless waste of points.  I use kits for what Powers they have synergy with.  N7 Destroyer?  Guns, shoot and shoot some more.  GI?  Sniper-Javelin synergy with Proximity Mine debuff.  N7 Fury?  Rapid and successive Biotic Explosions everywhere.

I'm not going to give my N7 Fury a Claymore and do near 100% of her kills via Claymore.  That's easy to do, but that's not what she's designed to do.

 

I currently run this build.  

narida.pytalhost.com/me3/classes/#Vanguard/Cabal/ELOPF/Lancer9AF5AD5//AssaultRifleRailAmp3/PowerAmplifierModule4/GrenadeCapacity5/

Basically you run into a spawn - 2-3 Nighshade Blades in a row, hit BF if you're getting shot to recharge shields, shoot some Lancer and then PS the f out of there.

Hrm, interesting.  That's essentially a Nightshade Blades-centric build.  You didn't go for any of the Weapon Stability passives, but then again, it's redundant if wielding a farily accurate and stable weapon anyway.  I like it.  I'll give that a whirl.  Thanks! 

Modifié par tetsutsuru, 12 mai 2013 - 05:34 .

[WaffleCrab]

#1. The op is the dumbest person to be introduced to BSN.

#2. If you treat all the skills like nothing but dot, your doing it wrong l2p

#3.Cabal is a ****ing awesome weapons platform, especially with the nice shock damage and stun from the nightshade, either as a finisher or for a stun while you reload cancel

#4. she is a great platinum shocktrooper and revive machine.

#5. Why did you even bother making this post

Modifié par WaffleCrab, 12 mai 2013 - 05:36 .