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[Uh Cold]

I didn't say he used aimbot, just that he cheated and pretended to be legit until discovered.
He also combined the full 6 build with his lucky survival ops count from the RNG store early on.
He wasn't anything special, anyone I used to reg with knew how to fury just the same if not better with legit builds and low ops.
Not to mention I heard he also edited something else, I don't remember if it was framerate or a file.
I was informed of this ages ago so I can't remember but it had to do with how he dodged banshees apparently.

Modifié par Uh Cold, 12 mai 2013 - 09:33 .

[stysiaq]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

That said, I return to my initial stance:

Why is this thread still open? It's naming and shaming.

we must create a purpose, for example GIFs.

[mumba]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
Why is this thread still open? It's naming and shaming.

Mod's are asleep, obviously. 

[BOSSTER23]

That Nemesis he tracked behind that wall screams aim bot/aim assist to me...I mean come on now nobody is that nice

[Major Durza]

Uh Cold wrote...

I didn't say he used aimbot, just that he cheated and pretended to be legit until discovered.
He also combined the full 6 build with his lucky survival ops count from the RNG store early on.
He wasn't anything special, anyone I used to reg with knew how to fury just the same if not better with legit builds and low ops.
Not to mention I heard he also edited something else, I don't remember if it was framerate or a file.
I was informed of this ages ago so I can't remember but it had to do with how he dodged banshees apparently.

Enemy coalesced values and such I think, to make them a little easier.
Not sure if he reduced wave budgets as well, do not remember.

[MaxShine]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Uh Cold wrote...

The only one I heard cheated and fooled BSN for a while was N7 link (Fury master guy).
He did do a fine job at destroying the rep for legit runs from PC folk though.
Not like anyone cares since mostly everyone quit or has already done everything and moved on.

To be fair, his case was 6/6/6/6/6 builds, not aimbotting as Jay stands haccused here. Tnly thing N7 Link had going for was slightly better survivability. And you don't clear Gold and Platinum solos just because you got a bit more health, PC cheatings doesn't necessarily equate to everything else done by the same player to be completely invalidated. Good players can cheat too.




That said, I return to my initial stance:

Why is this thread still open? It's naming and shaming.

no, N7-Link edited his config files to be able to kill a Phantom with one heavy melee. We proved that this was theoretically and practically impossible. Video proof exists and the math has been done on paper... impossible... clearly cheating.... Just as this... This guy has better aim than people who won thousands of dollars in the biggest tournaments...

Modifié par 100RenegadePoints, 12 mai 2013 - 09:38 .

[Uh Cold]

While these bastards are editing files and god knows what else I am fighting aim assist on xbox trying to figure out why I miss half the shots I fire so I can improve and make better videos, the irony of it all.

Modifié par Uh Cold, 12 mai 2013 - 09:40 .

[FasterThanFTL]

Uh Cold wrote...

While these bastards are editing files and god knows what else I am fighting aim assist on xbox trying to figure out why I miss half the shots I fire so I can improve and make better videos, the irony of it all.

Xbox auto-aim is probably programmed to aim at the centre of target which does 1.0x damage.

PC aimbots are programmed to aim at the target's head which does 2.5x-3.0x. In case of bosses the effect of aimbot is severely reduced hence playing Platinum for aimbotters is equivalent to playing fairly.

Modifié par FasterThanFTL, 12 mai 2013 - 09:51 .

[Innocent Bystander]

100RenegadePoints wrote...

Well... that is an aimbot... Even the old Quake3 Arena champions did not have aim like that...

This and Anno: You can't compare PVP shooter where your enemy jumps around like crazy, moves rather fast and does sudden changes in movement. Enemies in ME don't do any of that.

I'm actualy not sure if it's aimbot, some parts look like it is while others don't. It's not like I care anyway.

[kaileena_sands]

 Ugh... what shocked me in this topic most is the mass hate on dubstep. 

I just hate that it became so popular and consequently most of it is commercial crap. There used to be much better dubstep, but there are still some cool artists.

Though the dubstep in Jay's video is not that bad, Cryptex actually have some interesting music.

/lolhipster rant 

As for the aimbotting part: #dontcare #dontwanttodispensejudgement

I guess that it does look like aim-assist. In the end, if Jay wanted to prove his innocence he could record a video of himself while playing (and also show he's got no aim assist scripts running). But the options are two - either he's innocent and consequently wouldn't do it because he gives a rat's as* for BSN's opinion or he's guilty and... well, there is no point. xD

I think people are giving Jay more leeway in trust because unlike Link he was civil and nice rather than a major douche. It's always easier to accept that the douche is the one doing bad things.

[cowwy]

So let's get this straight: this thread can stay open for 8+ hours but other threads will get locked in about 10 minutes.

[Uh Cold]

FasterThanFTL wrote...

Uh Cold wrote...

While these bastards are editing files and god knows what else I am fighting aim assist on xbox trying to figure out why I miss half the shots I fire so I can improve and make better videos, the irony of it all.

Xbox auto-aim is probably programmed to aim at the centre of target which does 1.0x damage.

PC aimbots are programmed to aim at the target's head which does 2.5x-3.0x. In case of bosses the effect of aimbot is severely reduced hence playing Platinum for aimbotters is equivalent to playing fairly.

No there is a lot more to the aim assist on xbox.
I've gone over multiple recordings of me using a sniper and wrote down why I was missing each shot.
The targeting is off and not fixed on the center reticle, when enemies are in cover it does not aim at them, it aims at where they would be when shooting out of cover. There are other variables but to get better I have had to compensate for each error aim assist provides as I play.
Needless to say it made me stop playing for a long time since I am fighting a broken game mechanic the developers refused to address.

Center target aim assist also happens like you said but is managable with sweeps, there are greater reasons as to why it is a burden on people who don't need it.

Modifié par Uh Cold, 12 mai 2013 - 10:09 .

[Lathlaer]

I finally got to watch that (in)famous fencing with cerberus. This thread has delivered

[GriM_AoD]

Modifié par GriM_AoD, 12 mai 2013 - 10:15 .

[OniGanon]

Look, I'm not going to call Jay a cheater. I have never played with him. I have no idea what he does in a typical game except apparently shoot a lot of heads. He could just be doing this kind of thing in Private matches and then quitting so he gets no credits out of it, because he's just that goddamn saintly.

What I do know, absolutely, without doubt, is that this video was made with some sort of aim assist going on.

And I'm not mad about it. Because as I said, I've never played with him and I have no confirmation he's cheating when playing with others. If anything, I find this video hilarious. It was blatantly obvious from the first 20 seconds that this was the work of aim assist, and funnier still that there are people who would claim otherwise.


I do not care how skilled you are. You do not have perfect head tracking 100% of the time while your target is cartwheeling in the air or flinching from a shot. Take a look at 2:06, the two shots on the Nemesis. He shoots a crouching Nemesis, then he perfectly tracks her head WHILE SHE'S FLINCHING. That's not prediction. That's real time head tracking through a very rapid animation. That isn't human.

I do not care how skilled you are. You do not snap to the head of a moving target from another moving target on a high recoil gun, without any pause and using razor straight-line, incredibly rapid mouse movement that never undershots or overshots its target. I want you all to do an experiment for me. Open up MSPaint and, using your mouse and Pencil Tool, try to rapidly draw a straight line that stops at an intended point. Marvel at how you fail spectacularly. Now try it immediately after jerking your mouse upward to simulate recoil. Yeah. Humans don't move their mouse in perfectly straight lines of precise length like that. Ever. Not ever.


In contrast, take a look at d_nought's Apply Directly to Forehead video here. Notice the irregular mouse movement when switching targets. Notice how he sometimes overshoots the movement and has to compensate to get back on target. Notice how he's predicting target movement rather than keeping the cursor perfectly tracking the target's head the entire time. If he's using any artificial assistance, then it's a damn refined one.

[ASmoothCriminalx]

Uh Cold wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

Uh Cold wrote...

While these bastards are editing files and god knows what else I am fighting aim assist on xbox trying to figure out why I miss half the shots I fire so I can improve and make better videos, the irony of it all.

Xbox auto-aim is probably programmed to aim at the centre of target which does 1.0x damage.

PC aimbots are programmed to aim at the target's head which does 2.5x-3.0x. In case of bosses the effect of aimbot is severely reduced hence playing Platinum for aimbotters is equivalent to playing fairly.

No there is a lot more to the aim assist on xbox.
I've gone over multiple recordings of me using a sniper and wrote down why I was missing each shot.
The targeting is off and not fixed on the center reticle, when enemies are in cover it does not aim at them, it aims at where they would be when shooting out of cover. There are other variables but to get better I have had to compensate for each error aim assist provides as I play.
Needless to say it made me stop playing for a long time since I am fighting a broken game mechanic the developers refused to address.

Center target aim assist also happens like you said but is managable with sweeps, there are greater reasons as to why it is a burden on people who don't need it.

how many games have you played (with a controller) with absolutely zero aim assist and/or snap-to-target(auto aim)? what you seem to be talking about is the snap-to-target, and if that is merely what you are refering to by "aim assist", then I agree that many of us who have put ridiculous amounts of time into this game could play without it. I actually avoid aiming when using the claymore or wraith because it's more enjoyable.

but if you mean the aim assist which slows down your sensitivity as you are passing over enemies, then I find it hard to believe that feature should be removed. 

btw that point about enemies in cover.. I really hate when that happens. you line up the cursor but the auto-aim takes you OFF the target. silly.

[Uh Cold]

I don't call it snap-to-target but we are speaking of the same thing.
There is auto aim and aim assist, call / define it how you like, I have my own perception backed by my own data.

Modifié par Uh Cold, 12 mai 2013 - 10:33 .

[Deerber]

Is that... FWC? 

Jesus Christ, thank you for re-uploading it! 

Although I'm not sure Jay would like that. Oh, who cares. I'm gonna save it this time around.

[Trontor]

Mirenko wrote...




is just impressive, any tips to become so good?

Since when can the M-99 Sabre shoot that fast?

[Trontor]

JustAnotherVanguard wrote...

Mirenko wrote...




is just impressive, any tips to become so good?

Since when can the M-99 Sabre shoot that fast?

To answer my question: Marksman He is using the Quarian Marksman Soldier.

[Ziegrif]

cowwy wrote...

So let's get this straight: this thread can stay open for 8+ hours but other threads will get locked in about 10 minutes.

Mods are either moderating other boards, sleeping on the job or most likely just having a nice weekend off the hustle and bustle of moderating us... Which must be a giant pain.

[Stardusk]

These Witch Hunt threads are getting pretty disgusting. This is old stuff, time to let it die.

Modifié par Stardusk, 12 mai 2013 - 12:31 .