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Deerber wrote...

Annomander wrote...

What I don't like to see, is decent players like Deerber continually singing the praises of someone who cheated, that's what irks me, as they are one and all far better.


Then I'm afraid you have two choices: you either present to me tangible proof that he cheated in ME3, or you don't read anything I write in a thread where a reference to Jay might come out. Your pick ;)


Watch the video in the first post, then rewatch the scene from 0:10 on. The aim is literally snapping from one head to another, without ever being anywhere between the targets. That is indicative of an aimbot. Compare it to aimbot vidos on youtube.

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I want to try ME 3 on PC.

If possible, I'd just grab Z and Valour, play on Red-John's host, using a mouse with half-dead batteries, with a frame rate locked at 10, during a denial of service attack against most western ISPs.

That way, if I hit anything, you know I'm aimbotting.

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landylan wrote...

Wasn't he banned? Isn't that proof enough?


Umpf, I wanted to be gone from this thread. But clear misinformation needs to be addressed.

Jay was not banned by any stretch of imagination. He just stopped playing. He's still online on origin from time to time.

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Deerber wrote...

landylan wrote...

Wasn't he banned? Isn't that proof enough?


Umpf, I wanted to be gone from this thread. But clear misinformation needs to be addressed.

Jay was not banned by any stretch of imagination. He just stopped playing. He's still online on origin from time to time.


He got a VAC ban on Steam. Doesn't affect origin. Etc etc.

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Ziegrif wrote...

Deerber wrote...

landylan wrote...

Wasn't he banned? Isn't that proof enough?


Umpf, I wanted to be gone from this thread. But clear misinformation needs to be addressed.

Jay was not banned by any stretch of imagination. He just stopped playing. He's still online on origin from time to time.


He got a VAC ban on Steam. Doesn't affect origin. Etc etc.


I thought he was speaking of ME3 since, you know... These are the official ME3 forums. If he wasn't... Then again, I'll be gone from this thread.

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Ziegrif wrote...

kaileena_sands wrote...
P.S. I also take your heart your insult to dubstep, Ziegrif! There are some good artists/tracks, most of them quite old now, since the new stuff is just the same wubwubwub.


Try me.
Seriously.
PM me something good.

Criteria for what I think is good is something that doesn't sound like it's just a jumble of sounds, has an actual melody and rhytm to it, is not obnoxious in its use of dubstep has small uses of it that actually complement the track and does not use dubstep as a crutch where they can't think of anything melodic so they just spam dubstep like it was some sort of substitute for creative catchy melodies. I think this might be close to what I think is a good use of something similar to dubstep and only song I've managed to like that has something similar to dubstep.

I'll try to keep an open mind and listen the tracks through wholly, here's your chance to torture me.


Yey! Flawless victory! :o  When I go home, I'll search something from the archives and spam you with stuff. :P

I do agree though, dubstep is a bit weird (or at least it used to be, when it was really scratchy and screechy, but still it wasn't a non-stop repetition that comes out of every movie trailer).  Idk, I am a classical piano player and there was a time I'd beaten myself with a bat if someone told me I was going to like dubstep one day. But a friend sent me a dubstep track several years ago I just fell in love with it. The people around me thought I got brain damaged, probably. :lol:

Modifié par kaileena_sands, 12 mai 2013 - 02:23 .


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Deerber wrote...

landylan wrote...

Wasn't he banned? Isn't that proof enough?


Umpf, I wanted to be gone from this thread. But clear misinformation needs to be addressed.

Jay was not banned by any stretch of imagination. He just stopped playing. He's still online on origin from time to time.

 

Plus he's recording on a crappy laptop that barely plays ME3 in it self, in 720p without a second hard drive most likely. So he's is stuttering and lagging like hell. That kind of aim is impossible when you play in an earthquake. 

You try shooting a Saber or Javelin on your PC at 20 FPS when recording at 720p. See what happens.  

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Air Quotes wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

These Witch Hunt threads are getting pretty disgusting. This is old stuff, time to let it die.

 
Feeling silly, because you got screwed for so long? 

Air Quotes wrote...

Stardusk wrote...
The spirit of the thread is yours, High Inquisitor, you thrive off this stuff.

 
We talked about it long before. When you were worshipping your Jay and making clubs for him. 


A bag of ice for you, Old Man Stardusk.

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Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 12 mai 2013 - 02:54 .


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I haven't touched a fps since UT3 Black Edition but I was playing Q3A and others before.
There is absolutely no doubt and no further proof necessary that what we see in this video is some kind of aim assist/aim bot. Even in my prime I would never have been able to score that many headshots in so little time.
Half of them are possible, the rest is happening too fast for human reflexes. Just look at the sequence from 0:11 to 0:16 in the video. Go to full screen and trace the movement of the gun. He scored 5 perfect headshots at long range from an higher position with no scope in 5 seconds. He moves the gun up, down, left, right/up, left while compensating for recoil and keeping the target reticle on the moving heads at all times. Again, in just 5 seconds, while firing 9 shots.
This is not possible, no one can react that quickly and without errors. If you don't believe me, go to MS Paint, draw a square with 4cm x 4cm, then try to draw 9 dots exactly at upper middle, upper middle, upper right, lower middle, lower middle, lower left, upper right, upper middle and upper left. They need to be within a margin of 2mm. You need to do that within 5 seconds, on your first try. Highly difficult, but not impossible... and now imagine you also need to compensate for recoil after every shot and have to react to the moving targets at the same time. And that is impossible. You'd have to surpass the human limits for nerve impulse speed.

Even the best fps players do not score that many headshots. It can't be done. Sometimes you have a lucky streak because your twitching mirrors the target movement 1:1 ... but that is very, very rare. It won't happen all the time during a video.
A good sniper will still do body shots from time to time... because it's faster and often does enough damage. For example... you wouldn't try for a headshot on a mook running perpendicular to you... just hitting it kills it, there is no reason to waste time lining up for a headshot. Now watch the video and count how often he went for a headshot instead... or how often he fired too quickly instead of waiting half a second for a better angle. That's because he didn't aim himself, he simply reacted to the aim bot. If he really was that good, then he wouldn't need 3 headshots to take down a Centurion.

His "intentional" misses aren't intentional... the target merely moved out of his aim assist area and he was too busy shooting to correct his aim properly.

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its quite obviously an aimbot, if you have played any PC fps games, you know thats an aimbot, you could find the best Q3/UT players and they cannot hit targets like that in such a manner as has been mentioned before

and lower fps makes it easier to aim? lolnope

try to play any skill based shooter, Q3/UT or CS and you will get annihilated against anyone half decent with the higher frames. Low FPS is not as responsive neither is it accurate in displaying motion and animation

there is a reason that 60fps stands as a basepoint for pure fps, or why players are willing to play on lower settings (beyond simple making the screen clearer - less objects or effects etc) its because you want not only a high fps BUT A STABLE ONE, as in one that does not fluctuate up and down as fluctuations in fps are also not desireable

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HUMAN IDOL WORSHIP: Causes massive blindness and or heavy denial of possible blemish and heavily defends the object of worship religiously with quotes like "He was a professional counter strike player" whilst ignoring the blatant evidence of blemish presented.

I don't believe what anyone says. I study things myself and form my own opinion. Sorry "JAY WORSHIPERS" but those shots were too on-point for me to believe they were legit. I could be wrong which I hope. Anyways that's my take on this video.

If this offends you then you might wanna check yourself to see if you've fallen under Idol worship

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I'm pretty stunned this thread is still open o_O

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hey, i liked the "dub-step"

this kinda of stuff would have tore up the clubs back-n-tha-day

anyway, i was discussing this with MP-Ryan on this thread. I brought up that the style of shooting left small margin of error. With such precise aiming, the misses look like rookie mistakes.

Gangsta

^^ that is impressive aiming, imo. Wish i could do that on xbox. The aiming looks much more fluid and because the gun itself requires such precise aiming, you can clearly see the margin of error being significantly smaller than Jay's.

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Air Quotes wrote...

Gay Aimbotron with... 


Stay classy AQ.

:sick:

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DaemionMoadrin wrote...

I haven't touched a fps since UT3 Black Edition but I was playing Q3A and others before.
There is absolutely no doubt and no further proof necessary that what we see in this video is some kind of aim assist/aim bot. Even in my prime I would never have been able to score that many headshots in so little time.
Half of them are possible, the rest is happening too fast for human reflexes. Just look at the sequence from 0:11 to 0:16 in the video. Go to full screen and trace the movement of the gun. He scored 5 perfect headshots at long range from an higher position with no scope in 5 seconds. He moves the gun up, down, left, right/up, left while compensating for recoil and keeping the target reticle on the moving heads at all times. Again, in just 5 seconds, while firing 9 shots.
This is not possible, no one can react that quickly and without errors. If you don't believe me, go to MS Paint, draw a square with 4cm x 4cm, then try to draw 9 dots exactly at upper middle, upper middle, upper right, lower middle, lower middle, lower left, upper right, upper middle and upper left. They need to be within a margin of 2mm. You need to do that within 5 seconds, on your first try. Highly difficult, but not impossible... and now imagine you also need to compensate for recoil after every shot and have to react to the moving targets at the same time. And that is impossible. You'd have to surpass the human limits for nerve impulse speed.

Even the best fps players do not score that many headshots. It can't be done. Sometimes you have a lucky streak because your twitching mirrors the target movement 1:1 ... but that is very, very rare. It won't happen all the time during a video.
A good sniper will still do body shots from time to time... because it's faster and often does enough damage. For example... you wouldn't try for a headshot on a mook running perpendicular to you... just hitting it kills it, there is no reason to waste time lining up for a headshot. Now watch the video and count how often he went for a headshot instead... or how often he fired too quickly instead of waiting half a second for a better angle. That's because he didn't aim himself, he simply reacted to the aim bot. If he really was that good, then he wouldn't need 3 headshots to take down a Centurion.

His "intentional" misses aren't intentional... the target merely moved out of his aim assist area and he was too busy shooting to correct his aim properly.


Actually, there IS recoil. I thought there wasn't any recoil at all, but I watched the video frame by frame; the recoil is there, but its compensated for immediately; again, something which is impossible without using an aimbot as human reactions are simply not fast enough.

I bolded those parts because you know what you're talking about.

If Jay really was that good, why does he shoot through the guns of the centurions? At 1:03,  when the centurion staggers, he raises his gun infront of his face...  Jay then proceeds to shoot through the centurions gun (which doesn't register as  a headshot) instead of moving his crosshair 10 pixels to the left or right, which would have allowed him to 2hk the centurion. Obvious aimbotting is obvious, if he was that good he would have adjusted his aim and not shot through the centurion's gun.

As for the body shots part, yeah, players who are shooting fast ("twitch shotting" for those unfamiliar with FPS games on PC) are usually aiming at the centre of mass, as human error invariably means you miss a high % of shots, and mitigating this risk by aiming for the larger target of the torso is what any FPS player does; from the ground upwards to professional Q3A players.

Another thing about the centurions, at 1:39, his aim adjusts flawlessly as the centurion performs an exiting cover animation. Obvious aimbotting is obvious.

Modifié par Annomander, 12 mai 2013 - 03:22 .


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^^lets not forget the fact of easily missing a strafing mook, yet being able to hit a headshot with a perpendicularly moving nemesis from a greater distance

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@ 2:41 Watch closely and rewind many time. The trooper runs horizontal from him yet the marker stays perfectly on him and doesnt move an inch.

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I like how people say they don't care yet will not stop posting in here.

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I got hackused of aim botting in Halo 4 with a Beam Rifle am I cool enough to hang?

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How the hell is this thread still open?

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MasterReefa wrote...

I got hackused of aim botting in Halo 4 with a Beam Rifle am I cool enough to hang?


no cuz you play with 12 year olds, scrub

this is serious bidness

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Slimjim0725 wrote...

I like how people say they don't care yet will not stop posting in here.


I don't care about Jay; we're no longer friends on steam or origin, but Deerber is calling me a liar. He hasn't said as much, but that's the insinuation. Someone who I previously had a lot of respect for is branding me a liar.

Incidentally, I'm no longer friends with Deerber on Origin either. I won't have someone call me a liar, just so they can felate an aimbotter.

Modifié par Annomander, 12 mai 2013 - 03:45 .


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This is an epidemy of cheaters and hackers on PC. I don't think bioware even deals with them. I reported this guy for cheating (pay attention to his challenges)
social.bioware.com/n7hq/home/overview/
but (surprise surprise!!!) he wasn't banned.
Check this:
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@3:37 Look at how bad his aim is when the aimbot isn't helping him against the atlas. Very ugly. It's obvious that something unnatural is going on at all the other times if he can't shoot better than that.

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Man I start drifting away from ME3/BSN and miss the best threads...