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[Admiral Dreck]

MasterReefa wrote...

Admiral Dreck wrote...

MasterReefa wrote...

Admiral Dreck wrote...

Do the same Thunderdome rules apply to Soloing the map/enemy setup? No AIU/Ghost/Havoc or Armored Compartments?

Volus is ez mode as well.

Even a level 0 Volus with a Spitfire and only moveing while ADS?

ryen pls

 Do you want to do any Thunderdome runs sometime?  Me and Disciple can't seem to connect and Salmon I guess thinks it's too easy now or something.

[MaxShine]

Here is an 18 seconds clip of latest fail:


I mean... I saw it coming... the choice was to dodge backwards or hoping he would not complete the possession before I kill him. I still had medigel left, but that was just too demotivational... I will try again though... But I am out patience for today...

[Admiral Dreck]

MasterReefa wrote...

Admiral Dreck wrote...


 Do you want to do any Thunderdome runs sometime?  Me and Disciple can't seem to connect and Salmon I guess thinks it's too easy now or something.

Me and Disciple can't connect either, but sure if we can connect! I have a few more themed runs I had in mind.

I'd like to give some themed runs a try.  Weren't you and Leland (Leland right?) doing Quarian Engineers with Adas'?  I believe it was you two in the Partychat while me and Salmon were attempting (and failing on Wave 10 both tries) our Destroyer runs?

[ClydeInTheShell]

Mister Blip wrote...

ClydeInTheShell wrote...

I will attempt this at some point.

Course, that would mean being able to solo gold first....

Come run some platinum with us, get used to the enemies, then we'll do some Thunderdome duos. It's a whole different animal, solo or not. Warning: if you end up playing with me, you will always get wave 10 objectives on Thunderdome. It's Mother's Day, so I'm not gaming, but drop a message and I'll play with you sometime.

Cool. Definitely could use the reps, look forward to running with you.

[me0120]

One day I'll get this. Lately I've been having great runs, like Stardusk, that end in a sync-kill or screw up the spawn pattern and run out of gels.

[Greyfrogx]

So I'm not too well versed in the whole platinum solo thing, but it this worse than geth/jade?

I'd call that 'The circle of hell' and hold it as an alternative...

[Stardusk]

Once I get it done solo I will make a guide out of it; I don't think an Infiltrator is the best way to go.

[Greyfrogx]

Just got to wave 4 twice in a row with no consumables used on a havoc w/claymore.

Slowing/freezing enemies really useful.

Sadly both times I spent a little too long lining up a headshot on a mook and got bansheed.

Definitely doable..... Might get scary when the primes arrive

[IamZAE]

Mister Blip wrote...

ClydeInTheShell wrote...

I will attempt this at some point.

Course, that would mean being able to solo gold first....

Come run some platinum with us, get used to the enemies, then we'll do some Thunderdome duos. It's a whole different animal, solo or not. Warning: if you end up playing with me, you will always get wave 10 objectives on Thunderdome. It's Mother's Day, so I'm not gaming, but drop a message and I'll play with you sometime.

like a ephing bauss!!!

[Max Dmian]

You'll have to let Blip host though, or you won't even get that far 

[JohnnyQPublic]

caineghis2500 wrote...

There's a reason why some of us are trying out non op crutch kits. For the simple fact that we can complete it easily with op crutch kits...

So what does BSN consider to be "op crutch kits" these days?  It seems to change over time.  I assume it must include TGI and AIU.  Maybe Havoc or GI?  What else?

[IamZAE]

JohnnyQPublic wrote...

caineghis2500 wrote...

There's a reason why some of us are trying out non op crutch kits. For the simple fact that we can complete it easily with op crutch kits...

So what does BSN consider to be "op crutch kits" these days?  It seems to change over time.  I assume it must include TGI and AIU.  Maybe Havoc or GI?  What else?

Any kit with stimpacks, aiu, In my honest opinion Turians cabal gets thrown in as op, There she trivializes thunderdome with her teleports, every other kit other than those mentioned I honestly wouldn't consider op as in all of them has different risks to them

[DarkFaerie316]

Whoooo, managed to get to wave 9 tonight!!!!! Better than I've ever done!!!!

[Mister Blip]

JohnnyQPublic wrote...

caineghis2500 wrote...

There's a reason why some of us are trying out non op crutch kits. For the simple fact that we can complete it easily with op crutch kits...

So what does BSN consider to be "op crutch kits" these days?  It seems to change over time.  I assume it must include TGI and AIU.  Maybe Havoc or GI?  What else?

it varies from person to person and group to group. There are plenty of OP kits that aren't considered crutches because they are not overused or even have slight drawbacks. Collector, Havok, Shaman, GI, Trooper, Krolord, etc.

Also, some kits trivialize this challenge in good hands. Cabal is a good example.

All shield restore kits are banned, as is Armored Compartments. Some people seem to be using Cabal without a complaint for whatever reason, and Hsol's shield restore is too weak to disqualify him. Leech restores are OK (AF, ED)

[StoxRegalia]

JohnnyQPublic wrote...

caineghis2500 wrote...

There's a reason why some of us are trying out non op crutch kits. For the simple fact that we can complete it easily with op crutch kits...

So what does BSN consider to be "op crutch kits" these days?  It seems to change over time.  I assume it must include TGI and AIU.  Maybe Havoc or GI?  What else?

Every weapon is OP.  Every kit is a crutch.

[SectiplaveB4]

I've never attempted to solo Platinum, all those boss units make me die lots.

I'll try it, but I imagine wave 3 will be the extend of things until Platinum makes more sense to me.

[INVADERONE]

Notorious P I G wrote...

JohnnyQPublic wrote...

caineghis2500 wrote...

There's a reason why some of us are trying out non op crutch kits. For the simple fact that we can complete it easily with op crutch kits...

So what does BSN consider to be "op crutch kits" these days?  It seems to change over time.  I assume it must include TGI and AIU.  Maybe Havoc or GI?  What else?

Every weapon is OP.  Every kit is a crutch.

Will someone please make up their mind about what is OP and Crutch??? Also what are the exact rules? Cant do a challenge without the exact rules. 

If we are talking about characters that take advantage of shield restore then should this be the list of what are considered crutch characters and be banned? (I feel the need to list it out since I dont see a list)

• Alliance Infiltrator Unit AKA AIU - Repair Matrix
• Turian Havok Soldier - Stim Packs
• Turian Ghost Infiltrator - Stim Packs
• Human Soldier (Female and/Male) - Adrenaline Rush
• Cabal Vanguard - Biotic Focus
• Volus Adept, Engineer, Vanguard and Sentinel - Shield Boost
• N7 Fury Adept - Ahnilation Field Shield Restore
• Asari Valkyrie Sentinel - Ahnilation Field Shield Restore
• Salarian Infiltrator - Energy Drain
• N7 Paladin - Energy Drain

That's the list of characters that take advantage of shield restore and from what I am reading on these post they should be banned for the simple fact of shield restore. Silly, yes but that's the list.

Armored Compartments
Guys it is extremely silly to think that Armored Compartments is the win all. The guide that I created with Armored compartments uses it to take advantage of one wave and possibly two depending on the objectives. Armored Compartments never guarantees anything at all. I did this challenge twice and even with what is considered a "crutch" character and it is not an easy feat still. Very silly to think this challenge could be done "easily" with armored compartments. 

If you do want to ban it it is fine as the challenge can still be completed but please everyone dont fool yourself into thinking that Armored Compartment tops skill in this challenge at all as it simply doesnt. Many here, including Caineghis have claimed to used Armored Compartments on their attempt to redo this solo and still fail. Banning AC is silly but it is still definitely doable without AC.

Ok there are my suggestions from everything I have read. Please someone make up their mind as this post is starting to seem more of trying to trivialize other's completion of this challenge than actually wanting everyone to complete the challenge itself. The map and enemy on platinum is difficult regardless of character chosen. I can assure of that as of everything else its up to patience, spawn control tactics, pattern creation, funneling enemies and skill with your Kit. Everything else is assumption. 

Those are my suggestions. Please discuss and finalize the rules soon.

[StoxRegalia]

Good list but you forgot

the salarian engineer, geth engineer, all vanguards (shield restore)
All infiltrators (cheap)
All grenade characters. (OP)
Warp/flamer/flamer/incinerate+incendiary abusers (glitchers)
Anyone with DR (cheap)
Juggernaut
Vorcha (health regen)

Modifié par Notorious P I G, 13 mai 2013 - 01:23 .

[INVADERONE]

Notorious P I G wrote...

Good list but you forgot

the salarian engineer, geth engineer, all vanguards (shield restore)
All infiltrators (cheap)
All grenade characters. (OP)
Warp/flamer/flamer/incinerate+incendiary abusers (glitchers)
Anyone with DR (cheap)
Juggernaut
Vorcha (health regen)

True. Here is the updated, edited list.


Will someone please make up their mind about what is OP and Crutch??? Also what are the exact rules? Cant do a challenge without the exact rules. 

If we are talking about characters that take advantage of shield restore then should this be the list of what are considered crutch characters and be banned? (I feel the need to list it out since I dont see a list)

• Alliance Infiltrator Unit AKA AIU - Repair Matrix
• Turian Havok Soldier - Stim Packs
• Turian Ghost Infiltrator - Stim Packs
• Human Soldier (Female and/Male) - Adrenaline Rush
• Cabal Vanguard - Biotic Focus
• Volus Adept, Engineer, Vanguard and Sentinel - Shield Boost
• N7 Fury Adept - Ahnilation Field Shield Restore
• Asari Valkyrie Sentinel - Ahnilation Field Shield Restore
• Salarian Infiltrator - Energy Drain
• Salarian Engineer - Energy Drain
• N7 Paladin - Energy Drain
• Geth Juggernaut - Melee Shield Restore

That's the list of characters that take advantage of shield restore and from what I am reading on these post they should be banned for the simple fact of shield restore. Silly, yes but that's the list.

This is the list of characters considred OP

• All Infiltrators
• All Flamer Power based characters
• All Vorcha - Health Regen (personally this one is laughable...Vorcha's die on two shots maybed 3 from a Platinum prime regardless)
• All Grenade characters - (laughable as well...e.g. N7 Demolisher)
• Anyone with Damage Reduction which includes characters with Tech Armor and Fortification

Armored Compartments
Guys it is extremely silly to think that Armored Compartments is the win all. The guide that I created with Armored compartments uses it to take advantage of one wave and possibly two depending on the objectives. Armored Compartments never guarantees anything at all. I did this challenge twice and even with what is considered a "crutch" character and it is not an easy feat still. Very silly to think this challenge could be done "easily" with armored compartments. 

If you do want to ban it it is fine as the challenge can still be completed but please everyone dont fool yourself into thinking that Armored Compartment tops skill in this challenge at all as it simply doesnt. Many here, including Caineghis have claimed to used Armored Compartments on their attempt to redo this solo and still fail. Banning AC is silly but it is still definitely doable without AC.

Ok there are my suggestions from everything I have read. Please someone make up their mind as this post is starting to seem more of trying to trivialize other's completion of this challenge than actually wanting everyone to complete the challenge itself. The map and enemy on platinum is difficult regardless of character chosen. I can assure of that as of everything else its up to patience, spawn control tactics, pattern creation, funneling enemies and skill with your Kit. Everything else is assumption. 

Those are my suggestions. Please discuss and finalize the rules soon.

[IamZAE]

INVADERONE wrote...

Notorious P I G wrote...

JohnnyQPublic wrote...

caineghis2500 wrote...

There's a reason why some of us are trying out non op crutch kits. For the simple fact that we can complete it easily with op crutch kits...

So what does BSN consider to be "op crutch kits" these days?  It seems to change over time.  I assume it must include TGI and AIU.  Maybe Havoc or GI?  What else?

Every weapon is OP.  Every kit is a crutch.

Will someone please make up their mind about what is OP and Crutch??? Also what are the exact rules? Cant do a challenge without the exact rules. 

If we are talking about characters that take advantage of shield restore then should this be the list of what are considered crutch characters and be banned? (I feel the need to list it out since I dont see a list)

• Alliance Infiltrator Unit AKA AIU - Repair Matrix
• Turian Havok Soldier - Stim Packs
• Turian Ghost Infiltrator - Stim Packs
• Human Soldier (Female and/Male) - Adrenaline Rush
• Cabal Vanguard - Biotic Focus
• Volus Adept, Engineer, Vanguard and Sentinel - Shield Boost
• N7 Fury Adept - Ahnilation Field Shield Restore
• Asari Valkyrie Sentinel - Ahnilation Field Shield Restore
• Salarian Infiltrator - Energy Drain
• N7 Paladin - Energy Drain

That's the list of characters that take advantage of shield restore and from what I am reading on these post they should be banned for the simple fact of shield restore. Silly, yes but that's the list.

Armored Compartments
Guys it is extremely silly to think that Armored Compartments is the win all. The guide that I created with Armored compartments uses it to take advantage of one wave and possibly two depending on the objectives. Armored Compartments never guarantees anything at all. I did this challenge twice and even with what is considered a "crutch" character and it is not an easy feat still. Very silly to think this challenge could be done "easily" with armored compartments. 

If you do want to ban it it is fine as the challenge can still be completed but please everyone dont fool yourself into thinking that Armored Compartment tops skill in this challenge at all as it simply doesnt. Many here, including Caineghis have claimed to used Armored Compartments on their attempt to redo this solo and still fail. Banning AC is silly but it is still definitely doable without AC.

Ok there are my suggestions from everything I have read. Please someone make up their mind as this post is starting to seem more of trying to trivialize other's completion of this challenge than actually wanting everyone to complete the challenge itself. The map and enemy on platinum is difficult regardless of character chosen. I can assure of that as of everything else its up to patience, spawn control tactics, pattern creation, funneling enemies and skill with your Kit. Everything else is assumption. 

Those are my suggestions. Please discuss and finalize the rules soon.

invaderone, i like your videos, but its time to talk real talk. i was actually disappointed with your thunderdome videos because i watched looking for tips, and all i see is basically promoting the two WORST crutches in the game, sex bot and armored compartments. those are the TWO combinations that DOES NOT promote a player to become better and understand the game
i really hope you try your third attempt with a character that doesnt have stim pack, repair matrix, shield boost. so i can watch your video and see if it helps me successfully complete a thunderdome solo myself. as i am not good enough to handle devices or targets on wave 10 without 9 missiles or 999 medigel. im currently getting constantly boned after wave 10 objectives at the moment.

p.s. any smart strategy you think you displayed gets thrown in the trash using that kit with armored compartments as they dont apply well with other kits

[StoxRegalia]

 Yes.  This baisically only leaves the Turian Soldier:wub: and  the Quarian Marksman

[Kocka007]

Notorious P I G wrote...

 Yes.  This baisically only leaves the Turian Soldier:wub: and  the Quarian Marksman

What about Cerb Adept and Justicar (reave DR might be too OP)?