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[EmperorSahlertz]

Considering Qunari have a far more resilient constitution than humans and even Dwarves, whatever epidemic that would kill off the Qunari, would probably kill off the rest of Thedas even faster.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

They are different enough internally that the Qunari have a poison that effects literally everything but them. That could be either resilience, or simply internal differences that might preclude any infection that hurts them doing anything to a human, elf, or dwarf. (If it literally does nothing to the Qunari, that probably means the latter.)

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 13 mai 2013 - 04:15 .

[Beerfish]

They have Canons we have mages without lips sewn up.

[freche]

Gunpowder should spread across the rest of Thedas quite fast now.
It's obvious that some parties (other then Qunari) got their hands on the formula to make it after they where defeated in Kirkwall.
Regardless of who got it, the information will be sold, studied, adapted, refined, etc.

[TobiTobsen]

I would like to see some theodosian ships. If those "boats" in the Kirkwall harbour and the one that the Hawkes used to travel to Kirkwall are the pinnacle of theodosian shipcrafting, I can clearly see why the Qunari dominate the waves.

Modifié par TobiTobsen, 13 mai 2013 - 05:20 .

[Face of Evil]

I don't think the nations of Thedas really use much shipping, so "naval supremacy" doesn't benefit the qunari as much as you'd think.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

StreetMagic wrote...


As for other strategies, it'd be nice if we can side with deserters and Tal Vashoth types, instead of treat all of them like mindless combatants. The best enemies of the Qun are the Kossith who don't have any respect for it.

That survey that may or may not be true mentions a Tal-Vashoth companion.

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 13 mai 2013 - 07:01 .

[EmperorSahlertz]

StreetMagic wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Considering Qunari have a far more resilient constitution than humans and even Dwarves, whatever epidemic that would kill off the Qunari, would probably kill off the rest of Thedas even faster.

Not sure I follow. That's like saying an epidemic in New Zealand would effect everyone else on the planet. Par Vollen is just as isolated. Other than that, it might reach across shore to Rivain. In which case, I don't give a **** either. Many of them follow the Qun too.


As for other strategies, it'd be nice if we can side with deserters and Tal Vashoth types, instead of treat all of them like mindless combatants. The best enemies of the Qun are the Kossith who don't have any respect for it.

For a real world analogy, it would go something like this: New Zealand is being wiped out by an epidemic, but this is not something that happens overnight, far more likely it would take many months, maybe even years. In that time, long before the rest of the world even catches on to just how dangerous this epidemic is, New Zealnd will have been trading with the rest of the world, particularly Australia, who have extensive trade networks with America and much of Europe. Ships from New Zealand would very likely at some point, carry a passenger who was infected, and who would accidently infect some Australian, who in turn would start the epidemic in Australia, and from there it would spread like a wildfire throughout the world.

If the epidemic is strong enough to wipe out an entire population, the only hope the world would stand, was to force the infected into isolation, and try to work on a cure, while the infected must fend for themselves. If the contagion proves too dangerous, are infectious and volatile to treat efficiently before it spreads, the only option would be to incinerate all infected. It really isn't a pretty picture.

Now to put it into Thedas standards: The Qunari of Par Vollen, are trading (or rather the Qunari equivalent) with the Qunari on Seheron. Seheron is partially controlled by the Tevinter Imperium. Now if this disease or virus is strong enough to actually wipe out the Qunari, who has the most advanced sanitary and medicinal technologies of all of Thedas even, who are also the hardiest species in all of Thedas (barring the Darkspawn probably), then you have a disease or virus of such a volatile combination, that it would probably be deadly to humans within days. This disease would spread throughout Qunari society and eventually reach Seheron, from where it would reach Tevinter society, and there the rest of Thedas. The rest of Thedas does not have the luxury of a sanitary society, it is actually rather filthy, this disease or virus, would spread with no end in sight, throughout human society, wiping it out. The only hope the humans of Thedas would have in this case, would be that the disease or virus would kill its host faster than the disease could spread.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Face of Evil wrote...

I don't think the nations of Thedas really use much shipping, so "naval supremacy" doesn't benefit the qunari as much as you'd think.

Being able to land an invasion force whereever, whenever and however you want is a HUGE boon. Before there were air superiority, the most important thing to gain, would be naval superiority. Unless of course you were fighting a purely landbased war, like the Roman-Germanic wars.

[Xilizhra]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Considering Qunari have a far more resilient constitution than humans and even Dwarves, whatever epidemic that would kill off the Qunari, would probably kill off the rest of Thedas even faster.

Unless it was genetically based. The qunari themselves have developed poison gas that only works on those not of their race.

Perhaps more realistic, though, is if the Arlathan-sinking spell can be rediscovered and used against Par Vollen.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Xilizhra wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Considering Qunari have a far more resilient constitution than humans and even Dwarves, whatever epidemic that would kill off the Qunari, would probably kill off the rest of Thedas even faster.

Unless it was genetically based. The qunari themselves have developed poison gas that only works on those not of their race.

Perhaps more realistic, though, is if the Arlathan-sinking spell can be rediscovered and used against Par Vollen.

I don't think that the Saar-qamek was genetically engineered, as much as the Qunari were just racially immune, because of their hardiness. I mean, I don't thikn that the shipwrecked Qunari, had the tools to make some genetically targeted contagion, or the dwarf they sold the formular probably even less so, and I doubt they simply brought something like that along for a diplomatic summit (which their original mission was).

And yes, the spell used to sink Arlathan, if real, would probably be more useful, though it is not like the Qunari are magically defenseless, and Par Vollen is significantly larger than what any city, even ancient Arlathan, would have been.

Modifié par EmperorSahlertz, 13 mai 2013 - 08:48 .

[UnderlAlDyingSun]

CaptainZaysh wrote...

This whole thread is stupid. The devs have said time and time again that there is no cannon in Dragon Age.

See what you did there, and it worked kinda! Here, have an edible

[cJohnOne]

If we get to choose between the Tevinter Imperium or the Qunari that would be awesome.