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[Saren-Shields]

So I’ve been waiting for the Cerberus Harrier for so long and finally I get it, that’s it. Heard it’s good and seen people playing with it well. My friend told me CH is the best AR in the whole mp, and a lot of people would agree with him. So, I’ve been waiting for it. Was running with the mattock, which is a lighter version of CH, and it wasn’t bad, always took 2nd-3rd top score on silver. Rarely used phaeston or argus, which I like much less.

Anyway, back on topic… Now I get my CH and… well, what can I say?
It absolutely s*cks. At least it s*cks with me.

I really don’t understand how people can play with it. I hope this thread will help me figure it out. : (

First, ammo. It always runs out of ammo. I just can’t make a shot! I just start shooting at the marauder, and after a few
seconds my ammo is at zero. WTF? No matter if I’m standing near the ammo box or not, I am always out of ammo and my teammates take all the ammo before I can take it! I use my thermal clips, but there are only 6, right?

Second…
That terrible stability!!! The lack of it, to be honest.I don’t understand how people can manage to deal with that, okay? So, let’s take the mattock. If I see an enemy head, turn my crosshair to it and then shoot, bullethits the head, not the nearby standing Atlas, doesn’t fly into the sky, does notjust f*cking disappear into the air. With CH my bullets fly away anywhere but the target, it’s like the Revenant, but a little more stable (I am ok with Revenant btw and my aim is not bad with it).
So even if I play turians, bullets rarely hit the target, and as we all know, turians have the racial stability buff, so I think it means something. I mean, I am not a very good marksman, god, I am a terrible marksman, but isn’t modified mattock
supposed to be a little more… accurate?.. Maybe I should use CH with AR Stability Damper or Stabilization Module, of course, but I’ve never seen anyone use it!

My score fell from the 2nd place to the last one. I just can’t hit anyone with that AR, and that’s when I even have ammo, because for the most part of game I’m running around without it. People laugh at me and say that I just don’t understand how to use CH, but no one explains WTH I must understand about it. I’ve tried CH with almost all characters except for adepts of course. The only ones with whom I can barely use it – the turians, because of their passive skill tree. I’ve tried CH with TGI, because people said it rocks, and guess what? 3rd or 4th place on silver and stable 4th on bronze, because on bronze people kill the enemies quicker than I can hit it with that AR.

Can you tell me the secret, people? What is it that I do wrong?

For me Mattock is definitely better than CH, I know, people won’t agree with me. But
it’s my opinion.

Modifié par Saren-Shields, 12 mai 2013 - 08:38 .

[Hurbster]

Might get a better response in the MP thread.

[The Night Mammoth]

I think this might be the wrong subforum.

[o Ventus]

1. You're doing it wrong.

2. What does this have to do with the story or campaign?

[Liamv2]

Your trolling in the wrong section

[Saren-Shields]

Yep, sorry, chose the wrong forum, how can I transfer it to multiplayer discussion or delete and transfer it after?

[MegaSovereign]

Saren-Shields wrote...

Yep, sorry, chose the wrong forum, how can I transfer it to multiplayer discussion or delete and transfer it after?

You must pass the fourth gate of hell.

[Saren-Shields]

I did it, but the thread is still here.(

[MegaSovereign]

I believe in you, Saren.

[Megaton_Hope]

What kinda mods you got on the gun?

[Saren-Shields]

AR Magazine upgrade and AR Extended Barrel.

Modifié par Saren-Shields, 12 mai 2013 - 08:47 .

[Ledgend1221]

Scrub, are you using it in cover?
But you're right, it's your fault you suck, l2p.
Go back to bronze PUG.

[Saren-Shields]

not only in cover... I don't like covers, it slows me.(
Hey, I am not that terrible. I am just not used to this rifle. Is trying to undestand how I should use it that bad? Bronze is boring.

[Ledgend1221]

Saren-Shields wrote...

not only in cover... I don't like covers, it slows me.(
Hey, I am not that terrible. I am just not used to this rifle. Is trying to undestand how I should use it that bad? Bronze is boring.

Point, shoot.
It's an Automattock.
If you can't use it on the Tsol, you can't use it.

[Gixxer6Rdr]

My CH in MP is only a level one, use it with a stability mod, thermal clip mod. Lose the barrel. I place, about 95% of the time, 1st in Gold matches. However, I prefer my level 10 Mattock. Lighter and more accurate. I only use the Harrier with my N7 destroyer, with a level 6 Geth Shotgun as backup...

[Saren-Shields]

Ledgend1221, okay, I will try to do so, thanks for advice.

Gixxer6Rdr wrote...

My CH in MP is only a level one, use it with a stability mod, thermal clip mod. Lose the barrel. I place, about 95% of the time, 1st in Gold matches. However, I prefer my level 10 Mattock. Lighter and more accurate. I only use the Harrier with my N7 destroyer, with a level 6 Geth Shotgun as backup...

So do I... I preferred damage mods at one point, but now, I think, I'll return back to stablilty mod. But Mattock X is still preferable for me too. I think its underestimated and should be at least rare not unusual.
yes, forget about n7 destroyer... not bad for CH, but too slow for me.

Modifié par Saren-Shields, 12 mai 2013 - 09:06 .

[Ledgend1221]

Gixxer6Rdr wrote...

ignore this

That will get you booted from games.
Here's what you take:

N7 Destroyer(6/6/0/6/6) or Human(6/0/6/6/6) Soldier or GI(6/6/6/6/0). First is easiest, last is hardest.
(Tell me if you need detailed builds)

EB + AP(If not using AP rounds) or EM (If using AP rounds).

Gear: AR amps.
AP ammo(If using EM) or Inferno ammo (If using AP mod). It's better to take AP ammo and EM on Destroyer and GI. Take Inferno ammo and AP on Hsol, it has the added bonus of FE's.
Warfighter package or AR amp(For GI only).
Cyclonic mod (Destroyer and Hsol) or Adreniline mod(GI)

Or if you really can't control it: a Stability mod(This may cause questions.)

Then go into Gold(with decent teamates.)

Modifié par Ledgend1221, 12 mai 2013 - 09:09 .

[Lessandra]

IMHO, TGI with all these powerful ARs like Mattock, Revenant, CH is overrated. First of all, he’s an Infiltrator which makes him badass with SRs and one-shot shotguns. Frankly, I don’t see the point of cloaking if the damage bonus applies to a cloaked shot. With an AR, what’s the point? You uncloak after one burst, and then you’re just stuck shooting in the open, unless you have something like Falcon or Striker, and that is simply ridiculous. It’s a no-win situation. I try using Overload with high Recharge Speed a lot. It’s as vital as the notorious Stim Packs.

Btw, have you tried using TGI with the Talon (Or Reckoning DLC released Executioner which is basically an upgraded Talon)? It’s sweeeet.

[Ledgend1221]

Lessandra wrote...

IMHO, TGI with all these powerful ARs like Mattock, Revenant, CH is overrated. First of all, he’s an Infiltrator which makes him badass with SRs and one-shot shotguns. Frankly, I don’t see the point of cloaking if the damage bonus applies to a cloaked shot. With an AR, what’s the point? You uncloak after one burst, and then you’re just stuck shooting in the open, unless you have something like Falcon or Striker, and that is simply ridiculous. It’s a no-win situation. I try using Overload with high Recharge Speed a lot. It’s as vital as the notorious Stim Packs.

Btw, have you tried using TGI with the Talon (Or Reckoning DLC released Executioner which is basically an upgraded Talon)? It’s sweeeet.

Scrub.
TGI get's an 20% Increase to AR damage for ten seconds after using Tac cheat.
Cloak damage bonus applies for a period of several seconds after the first shot. (All thee rounds of a BW with reload cancel.)
Using a sniper will get you booted.
Stim packs increase your damage and give you lolshields.

[Saren-Shields]

Ledgend1221
thank you for your answer, it's really useful for me. I'am kinda noob, so such full answers is... well, educate me... in game ways.

Lessandra wrote...

IMHO, TGI with all these powerful ARs like Mattock, Revenant, CH is overrated. First of all, he’s an Infiltrator which makes him badass with SRs and one-shot shotguns. Frankly, I don’t see the point of cloaking if the damage bonus applies to a cloaked shot. With an AR, what’s the point? You uncloak after one burst, and then you’re just stuck shooting in the open, unless you have something like Falcon or Striker, and that is simply ridiculous. It’s a no-win situation. I try using Overload with high Recharge Speed a lot. It’s as vital as the notorious Stim Packs.

Btw, have you tried using TGI with the Talon (Or Reckoning DLC released Executioner which is basically an upgraded Talon)? It’s sweeeet.

Me too was surprised why so many people use him with AR instead of SR or shotguns, but I seen people playing really good with CH and Lancer, as I said in OP. Still, I cant disagree with you, dont have much experience with TGI
Ok, I'll try talon tomorrow)

Modifié par Saren-Shields, 12 mai 2013 - 09:22 .

[OldSickMonkey]

ok guys I have the same problem just like the OP stated. It's definitely true I'm far from being an expert rifleman since I can't shoot at anything tiny like banshee or a phantom. But it takes too long to kill a ravager even on gold with CH. People say it's really powerful. How come? It doesn't work with me. Is there anything that can help?
and yes I can't leave ammo boxes when playing with CH so I have to stay nearby because my teammates love stealing my bullets.

[Gixxer6Rdr]

Legend, wth? I have only been "booted" once. Your opinion is yours, but in my experience its incorrect. The one time I got booted was because I was using a Level 12 Engineer in a room with 3 Level 20 Soldiers. And as I said, I'm usually the top scorer so booting me is their loss lmao.

SMH, my advice is still good even if it doesn't match your personal preferences.

Modifié par Gixxer6Rdr, 12 mai 2013 - 09:26 .

[Lessandra]

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Scrub.
TGI get's an 20% Increase to AR damage for ten seconds after using Tac cheat.
Cloak damage bonus applies for a period of several seconds after the first shot. (All thee rounds of a BW with reload cancel.)
Using a sniper will get you booted.
Stim packs increase your damage and give you lolshields.

Didn't know about the ten seconds rule, my bad.
The SRs though... I dunno, I've earned my SR banner by using sniper rifles on TGI, and I'm loving this build. =))

P.S.: You're very fond of booting people, aren't you?

[Ledgend1221]

If you REALLY can't control the thing(Seriously?) then tap the fire button rather then holding it.

[shodiswe]

Try fiering short bursts instead of just holding down the shoot button til you run out of ammo. I usualy put on a an extra ammo mod on the weapon, gives you larger clips.