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Lessandra wrote...

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Scrub.
TGI get's an 20% Increase to AR damage for ten seconds after using Tac cheat.
Cloak damage bonus applies for a period of several seconds after the first shot. (All thee rounds of a BW with reload cancel.)
Using a sniper will get you booted.
Stim packs increase your damage and give you lolshields.


Didn't know about the ten seconds rule, my bad.
The SRs though... I dunno, I've earned my SR banner by using sniper rifles on TGI, and I'm loving this build. =))

P.S.: You're very fond of booting people, aren't you? :huh:

The less "OMG I GOTZ BOOTED, whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!" threads the better.
Using questionable builds on Gold will more often then not, get you booted.

But as to the SR thing, You have everyother Infiltraitor(Except sexbot and space lesbian) which has a 20% Bonus to snipers.
That's a multiplicative bonus, it takes all the other damage bonuses you get and adds 20% extra to that entire total.
But you choose to use the sniper on one of the infiltraitors who doesn't get that bonus? That's gonna' raise questions.

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Gixxer6Rdr, I don't ignore your advice...
I didnt know about TGI cloak AR damage bonus. O_o That explains why people use AR on him. Didn't used TGI much, as I said. Strange kit, imao.

shodiswe wrote...

Try fiering short bursts instead of just
holding down the shoot button til you run out of ammo.

thats an idea, thanks. Didnt think of it.

Modifié par Saren-Shields, 12 mai 2013 - 09:32 .


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Gixxer6Rdr wrote...

Legend, wth? I have only been "booted" once. Your opinion is yours, but in my experience its incorrect. The one time I got booted was because I was using a Level 12 Engineer in a room with 3 Level 20 Soldiers. And as I said, I'm usually the top scorer so booting me is their loss lmao.

SMH, my advice is still good even if it doesn't match your personal preferences.

I've soloed gold and almost soloed Platnium. Outscoring PUGs means nothing.
You're suggesting a sub-optimal build for the OP.
The Harrier far exceeds the Mattock, it has the same damage as a Mattock X at I.
Giving up 25% damage? Nope, never.

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The ammo sink keeps it from being OP. It really is an awesome gun.

You just need to manage your thermal clips accordingly (even adding the ammo mod) and you should be fine!

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According the the N7 headquarters, I'm in the top 4% of ME 3 MP players. I must be doing something right... I know I'm not the best, but my last Platinum game, I went down once, and we all extracted... so yeah, I'm handy to have around in a game. My N7 # is only in the low 800s because I don't promote often or randomly play with different characters just to pad my state, but the friends I've made in ME MP are mostly around N7#s of about 13-16,000, and when we play together, I still place top 2 nearly every time. Not sure why Legend would say silly stuff like ignore me and I'd get booted. I bet if he played with me, he'd say different in a hurry...

And Ive done 14 Gold Solos, made it to wave 8 Solo on Platinum with my other profile. I don't run my mouth like you, calling names, acting like that makes me super-epic-special. Yay for you, glad you do well. Lol, big in-game ego transferring to the forums... shocking...

Modifié par Gixxer6Rdr, 12 mai 2013 - 09:44 .


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Ledgend1221 wrote...
I've soloed gold and almost soloed Platnium. Outscoring PUGs means nothing.
You're suggesting a sub-optimal build for the OP.
The Harrier far exceeds the Mattock, it has the same damage as a Mattock X at I.
Giving up 25% damage? Nope, never.

Damn, I wish I could be as good as you. :\\ I'll never beat solo gold.(
Well, I guess CH actually can be better when Mattock. Still, Mattock is not that bad, I think... it's hard to accept CH.
Gixxer6Rdr, I dont ignore you, I listen to you both.

Modifié par Saren-Shields, 12 mai 2013 - 09:42 .


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Gixxer6Rdr wrote...

According the the N7 headquarters, I'm in the top 4% of ME 3 MP players. I must be doing something right... I know I'm not the best, but my last Platinum game, I went down once, and we all extracted... so yeah, I'm handy to have around in a game. My N7 # is only in the low 800s because I don't promote often or randomly play with different characters just to pad my state, but the friends I've made in ME MP are mostly around N7#s of about 13-16,000, and when we play together, I still place top 2 nearly every time. Not sure why Legend would say silly stuff like ignore me and I'd get booted. I bet if he played with me, he'd say different in a hurry...

And Ive done 14 Gold Solos, made it to wave 8 Solo on Platinum. I don't run my mouth like you, calling names, acting like that makes me super-epic-special. Yay for you, glad you do well. Lol, big in-game ego transferring to the forums... shocking...

If you have done 14 gold solos, why are you suggesting bad builds and using PUG scoring as a measure of skill?
N7 means nothing.
And you don't get to the MP fourms much do you?

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Ledgend1221 wrote...

The less "OMG I GOTZ BOOTED, whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!" threads the better.
Using questionable builds on Gold will more often then not, get you booted.

But as to the SR thing, You have everyother Infiltraitor(Except sexbot and space lesbian) which has a 20% Bonus to snipers.
That's a multiplicative bonus, it takes all the other damage bonuses you get and adds 20% extra to that entire total.
But you choose to use the sniper on one of the infiltraitors who doesn't get that bonus? That's gonna' raise questions.


Peace, friend. :wizard: Booting people if you think they'll be poor players is up to you. I just meant that telling everyone they'll get booted is rather harsh.

TGI's Stim Packs are a life saver, that's why I prefer it to other kits. It's not like I'm suggesting a Black Widow for Asari Adept. TGI makes me feel less vulnerable. The SR build is something I've seen discussed on forums and shown on youtube, so it's not like my opinion is singular and invalid.

Anyway, I've retired TGI months ago. Sticking to the space lesbian, thank you very much.

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Saren-Shields wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...
I've soloed gold and almost soloed Platnium. Outscoring PUGs means nothing.
You're suggesting a sub-optimal build for the OP.
The Harrier far exceeds the Mattock, it has the same damage as a Mattock X at I.
Giving up 25% damage? Nope, never.

Damn, I wish I could be as good as you. : I'll never beat solo gold.(
Well, I guess CH actually can be better when Mattock. Still, Mattock is not that bad, I think... it's hard to accept CH.
Gixxer6Rdr, I dont ignore you, I listen to you both.


Everyone says that same thing, but you'll do it.

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No I don't go to the MP forums often... wonder why... It's hard to sift through crap-talking "my bildz are teh epikest!" people. Done with this thread and you. Have fun being awesome ;-)

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Gixxer6Rdr wrote...

No I don't go to the MP forums often... wonder why... It's hard to sift through crap-talking "my bildz are teh epikest!" people. Done with this thread and you. Have fun being awesome ;-)

Thanks, I will have fun.

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Lessandra wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

The less "OMG I GOTZ BOOTED, whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!" threads the better.
Using questionable builds on Gold will more often then not, get you booted.

But as to the SR thing, You have everyother Infiltraitor(Except sexbot and space lesbian) which has a 20% Bonus to snipers.
That's a multiplicative bonus, it takes all the other damage bonuses you get and adds 20% extra to that entire total.
But you choose to use the sniper on one of the infiltraitors who doesn't get that bonus? That's gonna' raise questions.


Peace, friend. :wizard: Booting people if you think they'll be poor players is up to you. I just meant that telling everyone they'll get booted is rather harsh.

TGI's Stim Packs are a life saver, that's why I prefer it to other kits. It's not like I'm suggesting a Black Widow for Asari Adept. TGI makes me feel less vulnerable. The SR build is something I've seen discussed on forums and shown on youtube, so it's not like my opinion is singular and invalid.

Anyway, I've retired TGI months ago. Sticking to the space lesbian, thank you very much.

Never said it was bad(No class with Tac cheat is bad.)
I'm just saying, people are going to ask why.

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Saren-Shields wrote...

Damn, I wish I could be as good as you. : I'll never beat solo gold.(
Well, I guess CH actually can be better when Mattock. Still, Mattock is not that bad, I think... it's hard to accept CH.
Gixxer6Rdr, I dont ignore you, I listen to you both.


Frankly, OP, I'll take CH over Mattock any day. I can't stand the semi-automatic three-bullets-burst. I know some people say it does better headshots that some SRs but at the end of several Golds in a row my index finger hurts from clicking the mouse repeatedly all the damn time.

CH is a Dzen weapon. That steady flow of gunfire... I find it so confident and relaxing. Just find your inner peace in how CH sings in your arms.

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You dont understand Mattock. I am playing with it and my finger is just fine.
And dont tell me about acolyte...

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Acolyte, IMHO, is a worthless waste of pistol space. I don't use it. Friends keep telling me it's great against barriers with Phantoms and Banshees, but I am yet to see anything useful in it. I'm sticking to shield-stripping powers, thank you. I think all Acolyte does is brings down my power cooldown, and I forget that I even have a 2nd weapon half the time, sticking to my primary SR or shotgun.

Besides, this whole "charge" thing, when Bioware couldn't make up their minds? First, I equip it and it works one way, then another way, than back to the original, it was bloody annoying, and I hate the way it is now. What is it with its bullet that it bounces off walls? Are we shooting a pistol, or playing billiards?

My least favorite weapon, totally, without question. I can't believe people go with nothing but Acolyte against geth on Gold. I wouldn't last a wave. And yes, the charge breaks my finger as well. Disgusting asari-built thingie.

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1. Put an ammo mod on it
2. Play as an N7 Demolisher
3. Camp next to the pylon

:)

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Lol. The Cerberus Harrier is so OP. You aren't doing it right.



Also, for the hundredth time: wrong forum.

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Listen to Ledgend, he knows what he's talking about. (Attitude aside)

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OP, you might want to know Harrier has some stats reversed. It actually recoils less out of cover than in cover. Also it is pretty good with Turian ghost infiltrator's cloak and stim packs. So you should try that.

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Optimystic_X wrote...

Listen to Ledgend, he knows what he's talking about. (Attitude aside)

But the attitude is the best part.

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S.A.K wrote...

OP, you might want to know Harrier has some stats reversed. It actually recoils less out of cover than in cover. Also it is pretty good with Turian ghost infiltrator's cloak and stim packs. So you should try that.


It shouldn't have taken this long for someone to tell him that the Harrier has less recoil outside of cover.

So yeah, OP, don't use the Harrier in cover. And change the words "Ghost Infiltrator" into "Everyone".

Modifié par Robosexual, 13 mai 2013 - 07:29 .


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Saren-Shields wrote...

So I’ve been waiting for the Cerberus Harrier for so long and finally I get it, that’s it. Heard it’s good and seen people playing with it well. My friend told me CH is the best AR in the whole mp, and a lot of people would agree with him. So, I’ve been waiting for it. Was running with the mattock, which is a lighter version of CH, and it wasn’t bad, always took 2nd-3rd top score on silver. Rarely used phaeston or argus, which I like much less.

Anyway, back on topic… Now I get my CH and… well, what can I say?
It absolutely s*cks. At least it s*cks with me.

I really don’t understand how people can play with it. I hope this thread will help me figure it out. : (

First, ammo. It always runs out of ammo. I just can’t make a shot! I just start shooting at the marauder, and after a few
seconds my ammo is at zero. WTF? No matter if I’m standing near the ammo box or not, I am always out of ammo and my teammates take all the ammo before I can take it! I use my thermal clips, but there are only 6, right?

Second…
That terrible stability!!! The lack of it, to be honest.I don’t understand how people can manage to deal with that, okay? So, let’s take the mattock. If I see an enemy head, turn my crosshair to it and then shoot, bullethits the head, not the nearby standing Atlas, doesn’t fly into the sky, does notjust f*cking disappear into the air. With CH my bullets fly away anywhere but the target, it’s like the Revenant, but a little more stable (I am ok with Revenant btw and my aim is not bad with it).
So even if I play turians, bullets rarely hit the target, and as we all know, turians have the racial stability buff, so I think it means something. I mean, I am not a very good marksman, god, I am a terrible marksman, but isn’t modified mattock
supposed to be a little more… accurate?.. Maybe I should use CH with AR Stability Damper or Stabilization Module, of course, but I’ve never seen anyone use it!

My score fell from the 2nd place to the last one. I just can’t hit anyone with that AR, and that’s when I even have ammo, because for the most part of game I’m running around without it. People laugh at me and say that I just don’t understand how to use CH, but no one explains WTH I must understand about it. I’ve tried CH with almost all characters except for adepts of course. The only ones with whom I can barely use it – the turians, because of their passive skill tree. I’ve tried CH with TGI, because people said it rocks, and guess what? 3rd or 4th place on silver and stable 4th on bronze, because on bronze people kill the enemies quicker than I can hit it with that AR.

Can you tell me the secret, people? What is it that I do wrong?

For me Mattock is definitely better than CH, I know, people won’t agree with me. But
it’s my opinion.

lol lrn2play noob

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Gixxer6Rdr wrote...

No I don't go to the MP forums often... wonder why... It's hard to sift through crap-talking "my bildz are teh epikest!" people. Done with this thread and you. Have fun being awesome ;-)

where the hell did you get that impression?

a year ago?

Modifié par Caldari Ghost, 13 mai 2013 - 08:21 .


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Lessandra wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

The less "OMG I GOTZ BOOTED, whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!" threads the better.
Using questionable builds on Gold will more often then not, get you booted.

But as to the SR thing, You have everyother Infiltraitor(Except sexbot and space lesbian) which has a 20% Bonus to snipers.
That's a multiplicative bonus, it takes all the other damage bonuses you get and adds 20% extra to that entire total.
But you choose to use the sniper on one of the infiltraitors who doesn't get that bonus? That's gonna' raise questions.


Peace, friend. :wizard: Booting people if you think they'll be poor players is up to you. I just meant that telling everyone they'll get booted is rather harsh.

TGI's Stim Packs are a life saver, that's why I prefer it to other kits. It's not like I'm suggesting a Black Widow for Asari Adept. TGI makes me feel less vulnerable. The SR build is something I've seen discussed on forums and shown on youtube, so it's not like my opinion is singular and invalid.

Anyway, I've retired TGI months ago. Sticking to the space lesbian, thank you very much.


Use the Salarian sometime ED is great for survivability as well, plus you have the proxy mine debuff.  You can chunk down bosses in a hurry with that.  

Course other infiltrators get it done with damage over surviability.  I can two shot Atlases witht he right mods and attatchments with the GI and the Javelin (only at three for me)

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Lessandra wrote...

Acolyte, IMHO, is a worthless waste of pistol space. I don't use it. Friends keep telling me it's great against barriers with Phantoms and Banshees, but I am yet to see anything useful in it. I'm sticking to shield-stripping powers, thank you. I think all Acolyte does is brings down my power cooldown, and I forget that I even have a 2nd weapon half the time, sticking to my primary SR or shotgun.

Besides, this whole "charge" thing, when Bioware couldn't make up their minds? First, I equip it and it works one way, then another way, than back to the original, it was bloody annoying, and I hate the way it is now. What is it with its bullet that it bounces off walls? Are we shooting a pistol, or playing billiards?

My least favorite weapon, totally, without question. I can't believe people go with nothing but Acolyte against geth on Gold. I wouldn't last a wave. And yes, the charge breaks my finger as well. Disgusting asari-built thingie.


It's better for power users who need shields stripped to be more effective.  It's down right disgusting on vanguards.