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[KingRoxas]

[Mcfly616]

They already tried the spin-off route....


It's called ME2

[ObserverStatus]

EntropicAngel wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

Hurbster wrote...
People actually LIKED him ?

Duh, there are plenty of people who liked Kai Leng, just like the people who liked the endings. They just don't use this site.

Hey bub.

BSN is just a giant echo chamber for the h8rs.

[marcelo caldas]

Han Shot First wrote...

A reason Bioware may be batting this spinoff idea around is that the company painted itself into a corner with the endings to Mass Effect 3. How do you write a sequel, where the results of the three possible endings create totally different galaxies. In one ending the very nature of life has been altered.

I think one mistake Bioware made with the endings to Mass Effect 3 is in creating endings that had large variations in their impact on the galaxy. Instead they should have went for an ending where the results on the galaxy where the same (Reapers dead), but Shepard's choices resulted in different futures for his or her former squadmates and some different outcomes for various factions, that wouldn't be difficult to carry over into a sequel.

so much for artistic integrity...
I'm glad they have nowhere  to run!

[marcelo caldas]

How about a Marauder Shields spinoff?

Modifié par caldas, 14 mai 2013 - 12:31 .

[gosimmons]

They're just throwing ideas around, no reason for people to freak out over Kai Leng starting his own trilogy.

[Maxga]

 I would 100% love a game with Garrus or Javik as the PC, as long as it's after the ending of ME3 and not before.

[Archonsg]

Oh for the love of....
Midquels and Prequels?
That's as Bravo Delta FUBAR as it gets.

*MOVE THE STORY FORWARD*
Bioware created this retarded, and I do mean that in every sense of the word, situation with the ending, churning nothing but DLCs that do nothing but play "Groundhog Day" and they *still* want to do more of the same with the next game, perpetually consigning the MEU in the past / pre-ending?

Well frack that.

[TheProtheans]

Garrus as the Dark knight would be perfect, but it would be after the Reaper war.

[Sejborg]

What I like about their ideas:

Doing detective work could be interesting. It was pretty good in LA Noire and I liked how it is handled in the Batman: Arkham series. So that could be an interesting addittion.

I like that they are concidering characters that aren't humans. Playing as anything other than a human in the next Mass Effect is concidered a plus by me.



What I don't like about their ideas:

The suggested characters are already set in stone. I want to feel like the character is mine.

An important ingredient in Mass Effect is exploring the universe. I do not want to be limited to Omega (Aria, Archangel) or The Citadel (Garrus/C-sec).

The time period. Having it set meanwhile Shepard is running around doing all the massive stuff will be weird. Kinda like Bourne Legacy. Sure, it is a nice movie, but because Matt Damon is running around doing all the massive stuff, it really overshadows the spinoff. I imagine these Mass Effect spinoff stories will have the same problem and be overshadowed and not feel as interesting as what is happening elsewhere in the universe. 

And setting it during the first contact war or whatever, will not work very well as a RPG where you are supposed to shape the story. It will have to follow a certain path resulting in a lack of player agency. 

[GreyLycanTrope]

Jadebaby wrote...
Mass Effect 3 was a spinoff, wasn't it?

Fan fiction.

[Daniel_N7]

Archonsg wrote...

Oh for the love of....
Midquels and Prequels?
That's as Bravo Delta FUBAR as it gets.

*MOVE THE STORY FORWARD*
Bioware created this retarded, and I do mean that in every sense of the word, situation with the ending, churning nothing but DLCs that do nothing but play "Groundhog Day" and they *still* want to do more of the same with the next game, perpetually consigning the MEU in the past / pre-ending?

Well frack that.

I have to agree. A spinoff focused on a specific character - no matter how popular - would imply that the next Mass Effect game would be a departure from the rpg formula where "you" define the character through an array of available options. It would mean a more linear, less free game.

And, regrettably, redundant storywise.

Lets "move the story forward", yes please!

[laudable11]

dreamgazer wrote...

(laughs)

You guys really enjoy being doomsayers, don't you?

Yeah. Some people are just like that.  I dont see anything negative about spinoffs.
Spinoffs are a plus. I see no problem at all. inmho...

[Skvindt]

I really like Liara, Garrus, Javik, etc... But I really wouldn't want to play as them.

If they don't want to let us continue playing Shepard, just start fresh. Christ. I'm okay with them making cameo appearances, but nothing more.

[Mastone]

bobobo878 wrote...

Finn the Jakey wrote...

Walters said that the spinoff could focus on Aria, The Illusive Man or Kai Leng.

No.
No.
NO.

You guys do realize that most Mass Effect fans loved Kai Leng, right? It's just a vocal minority who thinks he sucks. His fans just don't spend as much time on BSN as his haters.

lol joke of the week, kai leng was the jar jar of the me universe

[Galbrant]

As long as Mac Walters isn't writing it.... I'm fine But I prefer a whole new story that has nothing to do with the Reapers or Shepard's shenanigans. I just want to explore the Galaxy we know and love before they were utterly destroyed by the endings... It could be anything really.

A story about a Drell Assassin with the focus of Stealth Combat... a Turian C-Sec Detective with inspirations from L.A. Noire without the heavy combat. A Krogan Bounty Hunter scours the galaxy apprehending the criminal and those who wrong the wrong man. or/and a Volus Freighter Captain who owns a worn down ship with a ragtag crew who most protect his cargo across space in the pursuit of profit... and of course the eventual rise of his Trade Fleet.

[Kingthlayer]

Here I was thinking with the release of Citadel that these guys were back on track, but a spin off game is just a horrible idea. Mass Effect isn't an evening sitcom, nobody wants to play as Garrus in a game where you make zero choices and just follow him around during the early part of his c-sec career. He's already told us all there is to know about that part of his life.

The only reason to make a spin off is for a quick buck, and coming from somebody who bought every piece of Mass Effect DLC, the only way I even think about purchasing a spin off game is if it's priced correctly, 10 dollars on xbox live, and even then that's pushing it.

[Kingthlayer]

Mastone wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

Finn the Jakey wrote...

Walters said that the spinoff could focus on Aria, The Illusive Man or Kai Leng.

No.
No.
NO.

You guys do realize that most Mass Effect fans loved Kai Leng, right? It's just a vocal minority who thinks he sucks. His fans just don't spend as much time on BSN as his haters.

lol joke of the week, kai leng was the jar jar of the me universe

Incorrect, you can say Kai Leng was the Jar Jar of Mass Effect 3 if you'd like.  Though I still don't see the connection.  But Kai Leng when he was first introduced in the books was a badass, and if they used him like that he could have been a legit villian in Mass Effect 3.  But FFS it wasn't just Leng but all of Cerberus that got screwed in Mass Effect 3.  They were just badly written as a whole in the third game.

[Cainhurst Crow]

How about a spinoff based on eddie leng instead.



He's probably a better c-sec cop than garrus or blasto combined.

[Mastone]

Big Mac Heart Attack wrote...

Mastone wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

Finn the Jakey wrote...

Walters said that the spinoff could focus on Aria, The Illusive Man or Kai Leng.

No.
No.
NO.

You guys do realize that most Mass Effect fans loved Kai Leng, right? It's just a vocal minority who thinks he sucks. His fans just don't spend as much time on BSN as his haters.

lol joke of the week, kai leng was the jar jar of the me universe

Incorrect, you can say Kai Leng was the Jar Jar of Mass Effect 3 if you'd like.  Though I still don't see the connection.  But Kai Leng when he was first introduced in the books was a badass, and if they used him like that he could have been a legit villian in Mass Effect 3.  But FFS it wasn't just Leng but all of Cerberus that got screwed in Mass Effect 3.  They were just badly written as a whole in the third game.

ME3 got screwed by ME3..Kai Leng was a last minute, badly explained Deus Ex character and did not fit in ME.
I don't like saying Kai Leng is like Jar Jar...I would have prefered I did not know him at all, they should have left him in the book ..transport the book back in time,njust in time for a certain book burning in Berlin..
He was a moronic character...like Jar  Jar

[Auld Wulf]

Yeesh. The endless hate around here reminds me of why I don't like the BSN all that much -- it's a demagogue collective. (Which is worse than a borg collective, or any other kind of collective in my opinion.) See, there's a lot of hate, and there's peer pressure to hate. Thus, it turns into a massive circlejerk of hate with little rationale or logic being offered.

Riddle me this: Why would a Kai Leng game be a bad thing?

I'm not his biggest fan, but I don't hate the idea as much as many here do. I'm actually interested to see where BioWare would go with this to flesh the character out.

Geez, between the Kai Leng hate, the Synthesis hate, the Geth hate, the Reaper hate, the Catalyst hate... it really is a demagogic circlejerk of hate.

[AresKeith]

@Wulf or maybe because people don't see the point of having a game based on those ideas or the idea of a spin-off in general

Not everyone thinks like you

[GreyLycanTrope]

AresKeith wrote...
Not everyone thinks like you

But that why we're wrong Keith, it's just common sense.

Do like the use  of the word demagogue, like we're all running for the coveted curmudgeon of the year award or something. Wulfie gets my vote for pseudo intellectual hipster of the year though.

Auld Wulf wrote...
Riddle me this: Why would a Kai Leng game be a bad thing?

I'm not his biggest fan, but I don't hate the idea as much as many here do.
I'm actually interested to see where BioWare would go with this to flesh the character out.

We've already had that in the Mass Effect Retribution and subsequent retcon in Deception. Any fleshing out of the character would feel like a waste given we already know exactly where his development leads regardless of what additional information is added to him later. He's not compeling enough of a villain to warrant further curisoity.

And reason why I wouldn't want to play as him personally:

Greylycantrope wrote...
I doubt I'd be able to shake the feeling that somewhere down the line the guy I'm plays as starts having a hilarious inferiority complex.

He's a joke, any potential interest I had in the character has already been squandered via troll e-mails and other such douchebaggery.

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 14 mai 2013 - 07:37 .

[dreamgazer]

Auld Wulf wrote...

Geez, between the Kai Leng hate, the Synthesis hate, the Geth hate, the Reaper hate, the Catalyst hate... it really is a demagogic circlejerk of hate.

People dislike things, Wulf.

I also dislike tomatoes, most Michael Bay movies, and faux-intellectualism.

[The Night Mammoth]

I see Auld Wulf has a new favorite phrase. 'Anti-intellectual binary thinkers' is no more, now it's 'demagogic circlejerk of hate'.

Doesn't make him any less of a selfish hypocrite.

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 14 mai 2013 - 07:34 .