TimtheEnchanter wrote...
Stockholm syndrome?
I'm just imagening this right? Reapers, the kid and this board.
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Auld Wulf wrote...
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Because board pollution instead of posting this in existing threads is big and clever. There are threads which exist which deal with whether one sympathises with the Reapers or not -- instead of posting in there, you had to create your own thread for a post that belongs in that thread, as a cry for attention, to stand out and be speshul. That invalidates any point you could make, and undermines any respect I could have for you.
To sum up: Making a new thread for a post which belongs in an existing thread doesn't make you big and speshul -- no, it just makes you look marginally obnoxious since you're filling up the forum with copycat threads.
TROLOLOLOL
That invalidates 90% of your threads.
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 01:51
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Blame BioWare, their writing created all this.
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 02:02
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Jadebaby wrote...
Blame BioWare, their writing created all this.
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This.TimtheEnchanter wrote...
Stockholm syndrome?
Also, they were just stupid machines who didn't know any better.
They're literally organics 'children'. For organics to hate them and force them into the closet; it only makes sense the created machines will come out of it more than a bit 'off'---should they ever get free.
Machines are the victims but victims aren't we all.
How can I hate them for our mistakes.
I still killed them (destroy). But with remorse.
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 02:06
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I have tried to comment on this before and my post was removed because BioWare believes that all views are equal and therefore my view calling a spade, a spade, was unacceptable. Unfortunately for the board censors I don't do PC BS, so I will re-phrase my earlier opinion because I never saved it locally.
First, you are 100% correct in that there really are people who like and support the Reapers. They want to be their friends and to love them. They want the gift of their knowledge and to cuddle up to them. They want this because they reject reality and substitute their own. As has been pointed out before, it is similar to Stockholm syndrome, but there is no psychological malfunction prompting that response because the individual did not have to rely upon the Reapers for survival. It is a pure head game.
However, that is a typical human response. On any issue you will find opinions ranging from both extremes to those in the middle. There are many who believe that the Reapers are evil and must be destroyed, there are also people who believe that the Reapers are nice and friendly and only want to be loved and petted. Even Mac Walters has said that he hoped that there would be no one who would arrive at that conclusion because they were evil through and through, but apparently he didn't understand humanity and its full range of opinions.
The evolutionary perspective also comes into play because those who believed that predators were soft, friendly, and kind critters who just wanted to play with you would be killed and eaten, thus removing them from the gene pool. Today, that does not happen.
So there you are BioWare, another post similar to the last one that you removed because the truth was inappropriate. Go for it.
First, you are 100% correct in that there really are people who like and support the Reapers. They want to be their friends and to love them. They want the gift of their knowledge and to cuddle up to them. They want this because they reject reality and substitute their own. As has been pointed out before, it is similar to Stockholm syndrome, but there is no psychological malfunction prompting that response because the individual did not have to rely upon the Reapers for survival. It is a pure head game.
However, that is a typical human response. On any issue you will find opinions ranging from both extremes to those in the middle. There are many who believe that the Reapers are evil and must be destroyed, there are also people who believe that the Reapers are nice and friendly and only want to be loved and petted. Even Mac Walters has said that he hoped that there would be no one who would arrive at that conclusion because they were evil through and through, but apparently he didn't understand humanity and its full range of opinions.
The evolutionary perspective also comes into play because those who believed that predators were soft, friendly, and kind critters who just wanted to play with you would be killed and eaten, thus removing them from the gene pool. Today, that does not happen.
So there you are BioWare, another post similar to the last one that you removed because the truth was inappropriate. Go for it.
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 02:15
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saren was an idiot.
can anyone show me the agent, or agents who have helped the reapers in any one of the previous cycles? how have they been saved? where are they now???
anyone who beleives they are helping the reapers are fools. which is much of the reason i hate 3/4s of the endings.
can anyone show me the agent, or agents who have helped the reapers in any one of the previous cycles? how have they been saved? where are they now???
anyone who beleives they are helping the reapers are fools. which is much of the reason i hate 3/4s of the endings.
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 02:17
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i find this thread..AMUSING
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 02:27
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Yes, there are people who sympathize with the Reapers. There are a LOT of valid reasons.
They're cuddly. If you say they're not, you're just insecure about your masculinity and you probably don't hug your mom.
They have beautiful singing voices. Harbinger's karaoke performance of "You Are The Wind Beneath My Wings" on lady's night out was soul-rendingly beautiful. If you didn't know Harbinger was a lady you are an insensitive jerk who has it out for deep voiced women and I am going to tell Cathleen Turner she will f*ck you up, she chose Synthesis too so watch the f*ck out she is on Harb's roller derby team even.
THEY RECYCLE. I just feel so f*cking guilty when I look at how conscientious the Reapers are about recycling. I put the last fifty people I killed right in the garbage even though I knew there was a corpse recycling bin down the block that they transport to the husk facilities every Friday, it's such a great service and I wish more people would get into it because we should take care of our planet and at the rate we are going we will have used up 70% of the Earth's natural zombies by 2200.
They mate for life. Bet you didn't know that, did you? Sovereign and Harbinger were life partners and what they had was beautiful but you MURDERED Sovereign. Then you wonder why Harbinger wants to hurt you all the time, can't you see she is grieving you f*cking monster? You have NO respect for a woman's feelings otherwise you would have gone to the vegan taoist funeral they held for Sov and helped plant his spirit into an oak tree.
They are big fans of bird watching. Do you know how hard that is for them, to have such passion for a hobby that requires them to look at small animals that are like microscopic to them? They have to squint through teeny tiny binoculars that fall out of their tentacles and it's really hard for them to turn the pages of their bird sighting diaries. Harbinger loves birds and tried to touch one once with her tentacle but it crushed the bird like an egg under an elephant's foot and she cried into Sovereign's arms for three whole culling cycles. Not that she can EVER cry into his arms again thanks to YOU.
There are more even but you probably wouldn't care WOULD YOU.
They're cuddly. If you say they're not, you're just insecure about your masculinity and you probably don't hug your mom.
They have beautiful singing voices. Harbinger's karaoke performance of "You Are The Wind Beneath My Wings" on lady's night out was soul-rendingly beautiful. If you didn't know Harbinger was a lady you are an insensitive jerk who has it out for deep voiced women and I am going to tell Cathleen Turner she will f*ck you up, she chose Synthesis too so watch the f*ck out she is on Harb's roller derby team even.
THEY RECYCLE. I just feel so f*cking guilty when I look at how conscientious the Reapers are about recycling. I put the last fifty people I killed right in the garbage even though I knew there was a corpse recycling bin down the block that they transport to the husk facilities every Friday, it's such a great service and I wish more people would get into it because we should take care of our planet and at the rate we are going we will have used up 70% of the Earth's natural zombies by 2200.
They mate for life. Bet you didn't know that, did you? Sovereign and Harbinger were life partners and what they had was beautiful but you MURDERED Sovereign. Then you wonder why Harbinger wants to hurt you all the time, can't you see she is grieving you f*cking monster? You have NO respect for a woman's feelings otherwise you would have gone to the vegan taoist funeral they held for Sov and helped plant his spirit into an oak tree.
They are big fans of bird watching. Do you know how hard that is for them, to have such passion for a hobby that requires them to look at small animals that are like microscopic to them? They have to squint through teeny tiny binoculars that fall out of their tentacles and it's really hard for them to turn the pages of their bird sighting diaries. Harbinger loves birds and tried to touch one once with her tentacle but it crushed the bird like an egg under an elephant's foot and she cried into Sovereign's arms for three whole culling cycles. Not that she can EVER cry into his arms again thanks to YOU.
There are more even but you probably wouldn't care WOULD YOU.
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 02:31
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Tron Mega wrote...
saren was an idiot.
can anyone show me the agent, or agents who have helped the reapers in any one of the previous cycles? how have they been saved? where are they now???
anyone who beleives they are helping the reapers are fools. which is much of the reason i hate 3/4s of the endings.
I don't think it was idiocy, not really at least. I think it was more desperation. The reapers had us pretty much beat by eons of experience, and until the crucible was created to rig their own trap against them, they had no considerable weakpoints that could be exploited. From his perspective, extinction was pretty much a guarantee.
It's that reason that I can understand why Saren and the Illusive Man felt the way they did, even if they were corrupted by the reapers completely in the end. Of course, never in a million years would I ever put an iota of faith in any option that leaves the reapers even remotely operational, but I can see why someone would go that route. I think a bigger problem goes to how disjointed the narrative is on this. It comes so out of the blue in the end, that no reasonable person would take it seriously if these choices came out the way they did. They'd be like "Yeah that's great, but uh...I can still kill them instead, right? You know, rather than disintegrating so they can continue living, with no guarantee that they won't go ape**** as soon as I'm dissolved."
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 02:31
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Never underestimate the power of stupid.M25105 wrote...
I would've thought everyone and their grandmother viewed the Reapers as evil and the kid as a monster, but it seems that either I'm seeing things wrong or there are people on this board who are actually sympathetic to thr genocidal flying cuttlefish robots and the space emperor ghost kid from Contact.
Please tell me this ain't true.
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 02:34
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i'm crying now..I'm evil i killed the cuttlefish NOO
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 02:37
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I'm glad Wulfie is here, now all we need is Sevial and we got ourselves a party.
Hilarity aside, there are people who choose Synthesis and make very well thought out arguments for it without resorting to personal attacks, Iedra is one that comes to mind.
Hilarity aside, there are people who choose Synthesis and make very well thought out arguments for it without resorting to personal attacks, Iedra is one that comes to mind.
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 02:54
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Careful OP before Auld Wulf sho-- Oh
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 03:07
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So I had robot calamari and roasted crab. Am I an evil person?
How come nobody thought to eat the Reapers.
Wrex did. Boy am I glad I saved the Krogan.
How come nobody thought to eat the Reapers.
Wrex did. Boy am I glad I saved the Krogan.
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 03:16
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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...
So I had robot calamari and roasted crab. Am I an evil person?
How come nobody thought to eat the Reapers.
Wrex did. Boy am I glad I saved the Krogan.
Can you pass the Fried Harbinger?
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 04:09
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AlexMBrennan wrote...
Well, no - retribution and revenge is not necessarily the best reaction to anything really.
QFT.
Whilst I cannot think of any circumstances that would leave Shepard believing a single word of Catalyet's story the epilogue clearly shows that we are to take this revelation at face value. That's the source of the different options on this board - those that meta game and make decisions based on the epilogue tend to argue about how "unnecessarily" killing Reapers is wrong (true, but you didn't know that it was unnecessary before you watched the epilogue) whilst those that role play are pretty much stuck with destroy.
I don't consider the catalyst reveal and the ensuing info any great, new revelation about the Reapers.
It largely just confirms a few developments that were ME2's contribution.
Granted, fan memory is quite selective!
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 04:15
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Same reason that some people love Cerberus. Evil can be cool, provided it's 'necessary' evil. In reality, it's impossible to stare at the body count and say that whatever caused it was 'necessary'. The real reason for destroying the Reapers and Cerberus is not out of revenge, but to prevent them from harming anyone else.
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 04:17
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it's true. though most of them people are indoctrinated
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 04:17
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I hate the catalyst not the reapers they are just a weapon
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 04:54
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knightnblu wrote...
So there you are BioWare, another post similar to the last one that you removed because the truth was inappropriate. Go for it.
You missed. That post was poorly-argued, but not insulting enough to anyone to be a TOS violation.
If you're trying to get banned, try harder.
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 04:58
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As for sympathy for the Reapers, is anyone actually saying that? They don't have enough free will to rate either sympathy or hatred. It's like a victim of a drone strike hating the drone instead of the pilot.
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 05:04
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AlanC9 wrote...
knightnblu wrote...
So there you are BioWare, another post similar to the last one that you removed because the truth was inappropriate. Go for it.
You missed. That post was poorly-argued, but not insulting enough to anyone to be a TOS violation.
If you're trying to get banned, try harder.
lol, I missed that one. Yeah this knightnblu guy is an ass.
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 05:12
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TimtheEnchanter wrote...
Stockholm syndrome?
