Most of the kits I play regularly aren't considered OP; the AA, FQE, Human female adept, Human female soldier etc.
The AA is my absolute favourite though.
You favorite well-balanced kit
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 08:42
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Cyonan wrote...
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Wallhack and an AoE stagger. What more could you want? Maybe a rookie might struggle because they don't know how to play it, but that kit is nowhere close to 'well-balanced' and I can't take seriously any suggestion that it is.
Durability. Put the average pug on a GI and throw him at the enemy and all you're gonna get back is a pile of scrap metal.
If you want only characters that everybody can't steamroll the enemy with the GI is one of them, because his durability does require that you actually know how to play him.
Or that you have an endless supply of Cyclonic Modulators.
Sure. But if you know how to play him it's just stupid. GI isn't even playing the same game as 95% of the rest of the kits.
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 08:43
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Well-rounded?
None of the drells. I mean, they're my fav kits and I play drell adept half the time, but they're weak as kittens health/shield-wise.
Probably asari vanguard with a wraith (choke, HVB) + phasic or disruptor, grenade gear and cyclonic or power amp. She's good across all ranges with her gun & powers. Decent against shield & armor. She basically has 3 emergency buttons: stasis, grenade spam & BC.
Human Adept isn't bad either, just loses on survivability to the asariguard.
None of the drells. I mean, they're my fav kits and I play drell adept half the time, but they're weak as kittens health/shield-wise.
Probably asari vanguard with a wraith (choke, HVB) + phasic or disruptor, grenade gear and cyclonic or power amp. She's good across all ranges with her gun & powers. Decent against shield & armor. She basically has 3 emergency buttons: stasis, grenade spam & BC.
Human Adept isn't bad either, just loses on survivability to the asariguard.
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 08:49
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Shyde01 wrote...
Well-rounded?
None of the drells. I mean, they're my fav kits and I play drell adept half the time, but they're weak as kittens health/shield-wise.
always use a cyclonic 4 on your vorchas/drell
its the only way
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 08:52
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Are you calling the Drell underpowered? Because I think most would agree now that they truly are glass cannons; high damage output, low survivability. At worst, they're well-balanced. Many consider them all OP.Shyde01 wrote...
None of the drells. I mean, they're my fav kits and I play drell adept half the time, but they're weak as kittens health/shield-wise.
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 08:52
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Original Stikman wrote...
always use a cyclonic 4 on your vorchas/drell
its the only way
Everyone has their own opinion...
#57
Posté 13 mai 2013 - 08:55
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He takes loads of skill. Too squishy.balanced
He takes loads of skill. Too squishy.balanced
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 09:00
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lightswitch wrote...
Cyonan wrote...
lightswitch wrote...
Wallhack and an AoE stagger. What more could you want? Maybe a rookie might struggle because they don't know how to play it, but that kit is nowhere close to 'well-balanced' and I can't take seriously any suggestion that it is.
Durability. Put the average pug on a GI and throw him at the enemy and all you're gonna get back is a pile of scrap metal.
If you want only characters that everybody can't steamroll the enemy with the GI is one of them, because his durability does require that you actually know how to play him.
Or that you have an endless supply of Cyclonic Modulators.
Sure. But if you know how to play him it's just stupid. GI isn't even playing the same game as 95% of the rest of the kits.
Every kit in the game is once you know how to play it.
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 09:09
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Human Sent
Human Engie
Krogan Soldier (weapons spec; no reegar business, though)
of the Claymore users: Human Soldier
Human Engie
Krogan Soldier (weapons spec; no reegar business, though)
of the Claymore users: Human Soldier
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 09:13
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me0120 wrote...
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Turian. Freaking. Sentinel.
Yeah, baby.
For reasons stated above?
Indeed. I was late to the party again, everybody covered all the good points.
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 09:28
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I doubt I could pick just one. My very favorite kit is the Collector Adept, not sure if that is considered balanced or not. At the moment I have been playing quite a bit of Human Adept and Batarian Adept.
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 09:33
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Okay...lightswitch wrote...
Mumba1511 wrote...
GI.
No. Try again
GI.
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 09:38
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For me it's the AJA and AA. I also love playing them a lot (when Retaliation challenges came out, AJA 200 waves/Reave/BEs were my first completed ones. 
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They are actually, in my opinion, really well-balanced and good kits. I've heard people moan that they are underpowered but it's really not so.
Yes, of course, if you put an AA in a team with 3 competent GIs with Javelins... she ain't gonna kill a lot... but that's not an issue with the AA kit.
)They are actually, in my opinion, really well-balanced and good kits. I've heard people moan that they are underpowered but it's really not so.
Yes, of course, if you put an AA in a team with 3 competent GIs with Javelins... she ain't gonna kill a lot... but that's not an issue with the AA kit.
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 09:44
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I'd say Cabal.
This. She's rapidly turning into my favorite mook slayer. Bosses...eh, not so much.
Maybe the Vorcha Soldier, too. Melee/Caster builds with him have been some of the most fun I've ever had.
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 10:23
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DragonRacer wrote...
Turian. Freaking. Sentinel.
Yeah, baby.
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 10:53
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Cyonan wrote...
lightswitch wrote...
Cyonan wrote...
lightswitch wrote...
Wallhack and an AoE stagger. What more could you want? Maybe a rookie might struggle because they don't know how to play it, but that kit is nowhere close to 'well-balanced' and I can't take seriously any suggestion that it is.
Durability. Put the average pug on a GI and throw him at the enemy and all you're gonna get back is a pile of scrap metal.
If you want only characters that everybody can't steamroll the enemy with the GI is one of them, because his durability does require that you actually know how to play him.
Or that you have an endless supply of Cyclonic Modulators.
Sure. But if you know how to play him it's just stupid. GI isn't even playing the same game as 95% of the rest of the kits.
Every kit in the game is once you know how to play it.
Nah, not like the GI. Nothing else has his combination of RoF, accuracy, AoE stagger power, wallhack, and raw damage bonuses.
I'm not claiming the GI is game breaking, because as you say he won't make a bad player good. But once you figure out how to use him effectively, he pretty much removes most of the challenge from the game and makes a lot of other kits obsolete.
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 11:00
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Shotgun GI surely is not well-balanced, but a Javelin GI is.
TGI is much worse though, as you have even better staggering, shield stripping (GI lacks this entirely), long-duration multiplicative AR buff, insane HP/shields, endless free ops packs and similar dmg output.
AIU is in the same boat.
As for the topic - Tsent, Human Adept. Drells are OP when I use them.
TGI is much worse though, as you have even better staggering, shield stripping (GI lacks this entirely), long-duration multiplicative AR buff, insane HP/shields, endless free ops packs and similar dmg output.
AIU is in the same boat.
As for the topic - Tsent, Human Adept. Drells are OP when I use them.
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 11:05
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lightswitch wrote...
Nah, not like the GI. Nothing else has his combination of RoF, accuracy, AoE stagger power, wallhack, and raw damage bonuses.
I'm not claiming the GI is game breaking, because as you say he won't make a bad player good. But once you figure out how to use him effectively, he pretty much removes most of the challenge from the game and makes a lot of other kits obsolete.
My point is that once you know how to use anything effectively most of the challenge from the game is gone.
There's also a point to be had in the idea of "well balanced" being completely subjective.
Some people might say the HFI and QFI are not well balanced, while I would disagree =P
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 11:08
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Cyonan wrote...
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Nah, not like the GI. Nothing else has his combination of RoF, accuracy, AoE stagger power, wallhack, and raw damage bonuses.
I'm not claiming the GI is game breaking, because as you say he won't make a bad player good. But once you figure out how to use him effectively, he pretty much removes most of the challenge from the game and makes a lot of other kits obsolete.
My point is that once you know how to use anything effectively most of the challenge from the game is gone.
There's also a point to be had in the idea of "well balanced" being completely subjective.
Some people might say the HFI and QFI are not well balanced, while I would disagree =P
Cinnamon plox with your theories of subjectiveness.
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 11:09
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Air Quotes wrote...
Cyonan wrote...
lightswitch wrote...
Nah, not like the GI. Nothing else has his combination of RoF, accuracy, AoE stagger power, wallhack, and raw damage bonuses.
I'm not claiming the GI is game breaking, because as you say he won't make a bad player good. But once you figure out how to use him effectively, he pretty much removes most of the challenge from the game and makes a lot of other kits obsolete.
My point is that once you know how to use anything effectively most of the challenge from the game is gone.
There's also a point to be had in the idea of "well balanced" being completely subjective.
Some people might say the HFI and QFI are not well balanced, while I would disagree =P
Cinnamon plox with your theories of subjectiveness.
Cinnamon is a very subjective thing.
Though it's objective fact that Cinnamon is awesome.
It's science. You can't argue with science.
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 11:25
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Salarian Infiltrator with Widow is my cool guy. A kit that is recognised here as being very sturdy.
I would say BatSol or QME but they are considered too strong I think. I do like the N7 Paladin, but he is a bit of a kill stealer
I would say BatSol or QME but they are considered too strong I think. I do like the N7 Paladin, but he is a bit of a kill stealer
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Posté 13 mai 2013 - 11:43
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oO Stryfe Oo wrote...
me0120 wrote...
I'd say Cabal.
This. She's rapidly turning into my favorite mook slayer. Bosses...eh, not so much.
Maybe the Vorcha Soldier, too. Melee/Caster builds with him have been some of the most fun I've ever had.
Hurricane X with AP ammo III or IV. Slay mooks AND make bosses cry sweet, delicious tears.
The Cabal is rapidly becoming my second favorite kit, with Phoenix Adept a solid third, as far as my Ultimate Top 3 Super Awesome Fun/Carrying Time kits go.
