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[solidprice]

Tallgeese_VII wrote...

You are asking for Turian Sentinel for the answer here.

...unless people think he is a crutch too...

[ISHYGDDT]

Batarian Soldier. trololololol

Modifié par ISHYGDDT, 14 mai 2013 - 12:36 .

[popilek]

Human Infiltrator with sniper rifle of choice. Turian soldier with any weapon other than Hurricane.

[iOnlySignIn]

Geth Engineer of course.

[LoneWolf3905]

Human Soldier with Harrier and wreath. I tend to run him a lot.

[soultaker65]

Sniping N7 Shadow.

[lightswitch]

popilek wrote...

Human Infiltrator with sniper rifle of choice. Turian soldier with any weapon other than Hurricane.

CRIKEY

IS THIS REAL LIFE???? Pain has posted!!!!

is this your first post ever?

[d_nought]

DragonRacer wrote...
Cabal

Phoenix Adept

Modifié par d_nought, 14 mai 2013 - 07:58 .

[Max Dmian]

Geth Engineer, TSent, TSol

[Titus Thongger]

Senturian
Phoenix Adept with electric smash on a host or on a game with good latency
Krogan sentinel

[SpaceV3gan]

For U/U/G with Pugs: Krotinel

[COLZ7R]

Against cheatin geth scum...everything and anything!

[KeeperB5]

Maurader Sackboy wrote...

lightswitch wrote...
... but at the same time doesn't allow you to roflstomp everything effortlessly and stress-free like some kits (GI, Geth Trooper, or Drell Adept for example).

Don't understand why people don't bring kits they can use to "roflstomp everything effortlessly and stress-free" or, at least take their weaker kits to silver or bronze instead!    I play in teams to get quick runs, not solo 'cause players are dying right and left.

When I saw the thread title I thought "well-balanced" was going to be about kits you take into U/U games 'cause they work ok with all enemies/all maps.

I too thought this would be about what are favorite kits to bring to U/U games, especially gold and platinum. People are way too obsesed with so-called "crutch" kits and weapons these days. It is getting to a point of being stupid really.

Not everyone has the privilege of playing private matches with known people who play well. When I play U/U/G or U/U/P public matches, I want to make sure I contribute as much as possible towards getting my credits and team members getting theirs, instead of team wiping out somewhere along the ride and getting only consolation credits. And really, I expect team members to do the same.

Training wheels can be found in silver and bronze. SIlver is what I play when I test kits and weapons, then bring them to gold and see how well they really do. Ones that do great in killing stuff fast, gets brought to platinum.

Any kits or weapon can be a crutch in the hands of skilled player. If you have the skill and equipment, then play whatever you want. If you don't, but still want credits from G or P, then use them crutches and contribute as much as you can so the team can extract with full credits.

When I play gold or platinum, I don't want to waste precious time and consumables on hopeless or harder than necessary matches.

People, get over with your crutch obsessions. Thank you very much.

[TheGreatDayne]

Uh, what is the definition of "well-balanced" in this game? Does the Human Engineer count? I do pretty well with them on Gold...

[lightswitch]

KeeperB5 wrote...

Maurader Sackboy wrote...

lightswitch wrote...
... but at the same time doesn't allow you to roflstomp everything effortlessly and stress-free like some kits (GI, Geth Trooper, or Drell Adept for example).

Don't understand why people don't bring kits they can use to "roflstomp everything effortlessly and stress-free" or, at least take their weaker kits to silver or bronze instead!    I play in teams to get quick runs, not solo 'cause players are dying right and left.

When I saw the thread title I thought "well-balanced" was going to be about kits you take into U/U games 'cause they work ok with all enemies/all maps.

I too thought this would be about what are favorite kits to bring to U/U games, especially gold and platinum. People are way too obsesed with so-called "crutch" kits and weapons these days. It is getting to a point of being stupid really.

Not everyone has the privilege of playing private matches with known people who play well. When I play U/U/G or U/U/P public matches, I want to make sure I contribute as much as possible towards getting my credits and team members getting theirs, instead of team wiping out somewhere along the ride and getting only consolation credits. And really, I expect team members to do the same.

Training wheels can be found in silver and bronze. SIlver is what I play when I test kits and weapons, then bring them to gold and see how well they really do. Ones that do great in killing stuff fast, gets brought to platinum.

Any kits or weapon can be a crutch in the hands of skilled player. If you have the skill and equipment, then play whatever you want. If you don't, but still want credits from G or P, then use them crutches and contribute as much as you can so the team can extract with full credits.

When I play gold or platinum, I don't want to waste precious time and consumables on hopeless or harder than necessary matches.

People, get over with your crutch obsessions. Thank you very much.

I don't wanna.  crutchez r 4 da weak. deal with it

also

Maurader Sackboy wrote...

When I saw the thread title I thought "well-balanced" was going to be about kits you take into U/U games 'cause they work ok with all enemies/all maps.

all kits work with all enemies and maps

Modifié par lightswitch, 14 mai 2013 - 08:34 .

[stysiaq]

Phoenix Adept.

[chcknwng]

Human Adept.
Isnt Paladin considered OP? If not his a great character.

Also I challenge OP to find well played GI in pugs. I have yet to see a PuG GI.

[Titus Thongger]

^ does he have to be Polish though?

[lightswitch]

wngmv wrote...

Human Adept.
Isnt Paladin considered OP? If not his a great character.

Also I challenge OP to find well played GI in pugs. I have yet to see a PuG GI.

I think the general consensus is the Paladin is only considered OP in tandem with someone playing a detonator kit.

also it's unclear to me how the supposed inability of PUGs to use the GI effectively is supposed to affect my perception of the kit. GI is simply better than most of the rest of the kits in the game (perhaps all of them),  didn't say the GI is game-breaking or an instant win button for noobs (no kit in this game is an insta-win for a noob), just that the GI is just drastically more powerful than almost everything else...

Modifié par lightswitch, 14 mai 2013 - 09:02 .

[andresft]

Honestly, I find the AIU to be more of a balance-breaking kit than the GI. With a fully geared-up AIU, the average Platinum game becomes trivial. You can throw yourself at the enemy and not die once, provided you know how to time the use of Repair Matrix. Plus, Snap Freeze is the king of combos. She's fool-proof. Same, to a lesser degree, for the TGI. They're kits that even a mediocre player would have to go out of their way to make bad.

The GI requires some skill. Granted, a top 0.1% player can probably outscore anyone else with a GI, but it otherwise just isn't a quarter as durable as the AIU, which is probably the most durable kit of all AND still has about 95% of the raw DPS output of a GI. That alone makes her far more unbalanced and it would be foolish to think otherwise just based on the fact that a statistical minority of people are so insanely good that they can use a glass cannon like it's just a cannon.

As for a balanced kit that is balanced just right, I'd go with the HSol. AR is a huge help, but beyond that he's not something out of this world.

[KeeperB5]

lightswitch wrote...
I don't wanna.  crutchez r 4 da weak. deal with it

Can you play non-cruch kits/weapons in gold/platinum without dragging everyone else down? Yes? No problem. No? Go play silver when you're tired of your crutches.

[Deerber]

KeeperB5 wrote...

lightswitch wrote...
I don't wanna.  crutchez r 4 da weak. deal with it

Can you play non-cruch kits/weapons in gold/platinum without dragging everyone else down? Yes? No problem. No? Go play silver when you're tired of your crutches.

Hint hint: he can do that without problems.

He probably wouldn't post a thread like this here, if he couln't, by the way.

[dudemacha]

Shotgun shadow, csmg colldept, Eviscerator HE, Harrier Tsab......
I just usually mix my kit-weapon combos ( like not using harrier on TGI, not using GI at all, MM less Tsol with lancer, venom AIU ) to not make them OP unless i have a really bad day or my friends just keep roflstomping me

[lightswitch]

KeeperB5 wrote...

lightswitch wrote...
I don't wanna.  crutchez r 4 da weak. deal with it

Can you play non-cruch kits/weapons in gold/platinum without dragging everyone else down? Yes? No problem. No? Go play silver when you're tired of your crutches.

so bossy