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[Gorguz]

Alistair is not the son of fiona. The timeline says so, and in the calling it's wrote that before going to the magi tower, king maric wanted to stop in a nearby village for an unkonw reason. I think he wanted to meet alistair before adventuring in the deep roads.

[The Elder King]

double post

Modifié par hhh89, 14 mai 2013 - 02:11 .

[The Elder King]

Gorguz wrote...

Alistair is not the son of fiona. The timeline says so, and in the calling it's wrote that before going to the magi tower, king maric wanted to stop in a nearby village for an unkonw reason. I think he wanted to meet alistair before adventuring in the deep roads.

Considering that in the offical story Alistair's mother died during Alistair's birth, and his mother worked as a maid in Redcliffe (so Alistair never left Redcliffe before he was sent to the Chantry), I doubt that Maric wanted to see Alistair. Unless the "village" mentioned in the book is Refcliffe.

Modifié par hhh89, 14 mai 2013 - 02:11 .

[Mummy22kids]

I hope that it turns out that Alistair is Fiona's child, though I'm prepared for that to not be the case, or for us to never know. I'm not sure I'd want Alistair to meet Fiona but I's be happy if he just found out that she is his mother.

[TMJfin]

I haven't yet finished The Calling (little boring IMO), but if Fiona is indeed Alistair's mom, shouldnt Alistair look like little bit of elven? It seems little bit far fetched to me. So I'm going for "There's another Theirin somewhere in Thedas".

[Little Princess Peach]

hhh89 wrote...

Gorguz wrote...

Alistair is not the son of fiona. The timeline says so, and in the calling it's wrote that before going to the magi tower, king maric wanted to stop in a nearby village for an unkonw reason. I think he wanted to meet alistair before adventuring in the deep roads.

Considering that in the offical story Alistair's mother died during Alistair's birth, and his mother worked as a maid in Redcliffe (so Alistair never left Redcliffe before he was sent to the Chantry), I doubt that Maric wanted to see Alistair. Unless the "village" mentioned in the book is Refcliffe.

That was a cover up, because fiona wanted Alistair to be raised as a human, she did not want anyone finding out that he was part elven.

[EpicBoot2daFace]

I could picture Eamon telling Alistair that he actually is his father and that his mother was Andraste, just to mess with him.



I get a kick out of annoying him in Origins.

Modifié par EpicBoot2daFace, 14 mai 2013 - 03:30 .

[Scroll]

Well there are a lot of missmatches between the books and the game. I think the World of Thedas matches the Games more than it matches the books. So I'm choosing to ignore actual dates of the books and go with the timeline from TWoT.

Alistair is NOT Fionas child and he told us so. There is a third Maric bastard out there (at a minimum, because even heroes can sleep around).

[leighzard]

TMJfin wrote...

I haven't yet finished The Calling (little boring IMO), but if Fiona is indeed Alistair's mom, shouldnt Alistair look like little bit of elven? It seems little bit far fetched to me. So I'm going for "There's another Theirin somewhere in Thedas".

The child of an elf and a human is human.  Slim Couldry has an elven parent but is completely human.  Of course, from his convos in the Denerim marketplace, that didn't spare him the social stigma. So is Feynriel.  He's a little more slender than Slim (oh, that's funny), but he's still human.  So it's conceivable that Alistair's mom, even if it isn't Fiona (and I don't know which is "wrong," the WoT timeline or The Calling, but I personally go with the most recent information unless otherwise explicitly stated), could be an elf.  Maric seems to have a thing for them.

Modifié par leborum, 14 mai 2013 - 06:46 .

[ejoslin]

Half elves in DA2 had weird ears (both Feynriel's and Denarius's ears folded down at the end), though. And I don't remember Alistair in either of his cameos having those ears.

But maybe those ears were just another weird art thing and I'm reading too much into them.

[Fiery Knight]

I doubt Alistair is Fiona's son, since IIRC, Gaider stated that there is a "third child" or something similar of Maric's.

[The Elder King]

Tharja wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Gorguz wrote...

Alistair is not the son of fiona. The timeline says so, and in the calling it's wrote that before going to the magi tower, king maric wanted to stop in a nearby village for an unkonw reason. I think he wanted to meet alistair before adventuring in the deep roads.

Considering that in the offical story Alistair's mother died during Alistair's birth, and his mother worked as a maid in Redcliffe (so Alistair never left Redcliffe before he was sent to the Chantry), I doubt that Maric wanted to see Alistair. Unless the "village" mentioned in the book is Refcliffe.

That was a cover up, because fiona wanted Alistair to be raised as a human, she did not want anyone finding out that he was part elven.

:huh:You didn't understand what I said. Gorguz believes that Alistair isn't Fiona's son, and that in the Calling Maric wanted to stop in a village to see him. I responded that this couldn't be possible, since in the official story Alistair was already at Redcliffe.
I didn't express any opinions about Alistair's mother (which by the way there is no confirmation). I said that regardless who is Alistair's mother, in The Calling Maric didn't want to stop to the village to see Alistair. That's what I was arguing about.

[Zack_Nero]

Well, chances are we'll have to wait for the game to be sure.

[LPPrince]

TMJfin wrote...

I haven't yet finished The Calling (little boring IMO), but if Fiona is indeed Alistair's mom, shouldnt Alistair look like little bit of elven? It seems little bit far fetched to me. So I'm going for "There's another Theirin somewhere in Thedas".

Its been said already but naaah. Half-elves will look entirely human, as if there was no difference.

[Eveangaline]

I somewhat doubt either will show up

[WillPF363]

World of Thedas was wrong, officially. Bioware did a blog correcting several mistakes in the Timeline including the events of the Calling. I'd recommend reading the post, it was written in character as Brother Genitivi, and was pretty funny. It's old news now, but since someone resurrected this thread I figured I'd put it out there. A lot of people were using the WoT timeline as the ultimate proof that Alistair could not be Fiona's son, but that's wrong.

[QueenSiD]

I hope Fiona turns out to be Al's mom, but what about Maric telling Alistair in the comics that 'your mother' is not 'in the real world any longer'? D:

[Mead Knight]

I think they left the identity of Maric and Fiona's baby a secret so if Alistair is dead in one playthrough they will still have another person out there with the Theirin bloodline.

[BlueMagitek]

So why is Fiona gracing Ferelden's dungeon / torture chamber?

[Thetford]

So ... let me get this straight ... Maric has a child with a woman, then has the baby live at the castle of his dead wife's brother (which fuels lots of local gossip regarding the said dead wife's brother, which angers his own wife), and at the mother's request, the mother's identity is kept hidden from the child, brother in law etc, but not the father's, the most important man in all of the kingdom? Wouldn't it make more sense if both parents' identities were hidden?

Modifié par Thetford, 27 juin 2013 - 10:40 .

[Zangler1]

QueenSiD wrote...

I hope Fiona turns out to be Al's mom, but what about Maric telling Alistair in the comics that 'your mother' is not 'in the real world any longer'? D:

I really believe Maric was just continuing to live up to the promise he made to Fiona; he promised her that that the child would never know of his elven heritage. Maric was probably well aware of the official story that Alistair was told, and I think he was playing along, even after all those years trapped by Titus. That, and Gaider even tweeted that Maric's quote could be interpreted a number of ways...depends on how much you think Maric is aware of current events, given that he was Titus' prisoner for 8 years...I think....

[QueenSiD]

Zangler1 wrote...

I really believe Maric was just continuing to live up to the promise he made to Fiona; he promised her that that the child would never know of his elven heritage. Maric was probably well aware of the official story that Alistair was told, and I think he was playing along, even after all those years trapped by Titus. That, and Gaider even tweeted that Maric's quote could be interpreted a number of ways...depends on how much you think Maric is aware of current events, given that he was Titus' prisoner for 8 years...I think....

I can buy this. I swear, there needs to be a Gaider tweet codex.

BlueMagitek wrote...

So why is Fiona gracing Ferelden's dungeon / torture chamber?

Whaaa??

[amggrunt]

But Loghain in DA:O said they kept Alistair a secret for the sake of Rowan. She was already dead by the time Fiona and Maric had there baby.

[Chagrinned Goat]

LPPrince wrote...

Chiramu wrote...

If Fiona is Alistair's mum then what is
Goldanna? If she is half-elf as well why isn't she in the Alienage? And
why did Fiona leave her?

^Just a ruse so that no one knew Alistair's true heritaaaage

Goldanna even says that her mother had a child of the King's, and that she was paid off to keep it a secret. So if Alistair is Fiona's, then doesn't that means Maric still had another kid, and they swapped them for some reason and gave Alistair the story of another half sibling's birth? Because that's not convoluted at all.

And if they wanted to hide Alistair's heritage, why didn't they hide it completely? There are too many complications for the Fiona theory to be valid.

[BlueMagitek]

QueenSiD wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

So why is Fiona gracing Ferelden's dungeon / torture chamber?

Whaaa??

Put Anora on the throne and recruit Loghain.  Don't use your boon to spare Alistar.