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[Erez Kristal]

Mass Effect 3 Is a great computer game if you played a paragon shepard, befriended with anderson, Hated cerberus, loved aliens, loved the alliance, saved the rachni, kept the base and role played a world under war with no time for side missions which gets you the the most amazing vaporizing ending with the fewest wtf moments possibile.(Prime wtf moments left are: mostly avenger+predator cutscenes with shepard watching his friends getting attacked and actively choosing to do nothing: liara mars, ashely mars, thane - kai lang. samara, grunt and etc for the extra drama and cheese) (no sarcasam here)

However once you start straying from any of these choices your suspense of desbelief will be put a test. for every ounce of renegade path you decided to play you will be rewarded with more suspense of desbelief: after your shepard was cannonized to be locked up on earth. you are left with your own assumptions how he got there if you were a good boy and turned yourself in to be the alliance scape goat then good for you! but if you were a bit renegade your search for answers will make you realize you were duped and captured by anderson in his vendetta against cerebrus. but when you see him you are forced to play nice like nothing happened(my renegade wanted to put a bullet in anderson head for dooming humanity) forced to  hate cerebrus even if you worked with them earlier and agreed that their methods gets result just like you the butcher of the alpha relay was willing to kill 300,000 to save millions. playing nice with ashley after she almost shot you, being a meoldrama at every turn with the turian primearch about strelizing the krogan. finding out that the quarrian believe that the reaper attack is the best time to start a war with the geth even though they all met legion and only have a 3-2 to the war mongers on their admiral board.

Bad points of the game - http://social.biowar...ndex/13109485/1
Good points of the game http://social.biowar...5/index/9992961

Will you be willing to buy and play a remake of mass effect 3? will it make a good investment for ea? how will the fans respond? How will by bioware Respond?  Gamespot players gave mass effect 1 - 8.9. mass effect 2 - 9.2. mass effect 3- 8.4 Imdb vieweres mass effect 1 - 9.3 mass effect 2 - 9.7 mass effect 3 - 8.8

http://www.metacriti...-3/user-reviews mass effect 2 -86. mass effect 3 - 5.5 from 3000 users.

The scores are actually rather high so What the fuss is all about?  Ea and bioware had a chance to write their names in the stars with the third episode and having it on the top charts as one of the best games of all time.  instead we had a great game if you were a paragon and a bad game if you were a renegade. they forgot what made the mass effect series unique and so vastly and fun. Thats right! the ability to shape your shepard the way you see fit! The theme of Hope and immersive feel of i am commander shepard and not just watching a commander shepard movie.

Modifié par erezike, 17 mai 2013 - 08:45 .

[KaiserShep]

Yeah they made the Cerberus thing way too black and white. While I think that Cerberus rightly becomes an enemy in the end, because of the whole indoctrination thing, I think that they oversimplified the Illusive Man into something of a Sith lord that's a constant thorn in your side. Heck he and the Sith lord both communicate with you exclusively in holograms until the end. It would've been more satisfying if you could have it set up that the Illusive Man and Shepard were, at some point, sort-of friends that are at odds but growing further apart because of how disparate their goals are, rather than jumping right into "Hey Shepard, behold my evil. Don't interfere with my plans, even though that's kind of your thing, and I should know, because I read your dossier." He could've been the Erik Lehnsherr to my Charles Xavier. 

Remaking would be, as Mordin would put it, problematic. Too many things all tied together to bother with. 

Modifié par KaiserShep, 14 mai 2013 - 05:45 .

[Enhanced]

This is similar to those "Retake" threads

[Erez Kristal]

Enhanced wrote...

This is similar to those "Retake" threads

I did a lot of reading on the mass effect forum(too much reading i would even dare say.) the retake campagin focused too much on the ending and less on the game itself.  this post isnt about the ending. its about game and series as a whole and to find out if you support the idea of remake to the third episode in order to allow the players more freedom in shaping their story.
less plot armor and less cannonzing shepard.

[Bizinha]

erezike wrote...
Will you be willing to buy and play a remake of mass effect 3? will it make a good investment for ea? how will the fans respond? How will by bioware Respond?  Gamespot players gave mass effect 1 - 8.9. mass effect 2 - 9.2. mass effect 3- 8.4 Imdb vieweres mass effect 1 - 9.3 mass effect 2 - 9.7 mass effect 3 - 8.8

I think 8 pro ME3 is very high. He deserves a 7~6.

[Erez Kristal]

KaiserShep wrote...

Yeah they made the Cerberus thing way too black and white. While I think that Cerberus rightly becomes an enemy in the end, because of the whole indoctrination thing, I think that they oversimplified the Illusive Man into something of a Sith lord that's a constant thorn in your side. Heck he and the Sith lord both communicate with you exclusively in holograms until the end. It would've been more satisfying if you could have it set up that the Illusive Man and Shepard were, at some point, sort-of friends that are at odds but growing further apart because of how disparate their goals are, rather than jumping right into "Hey Shepard, behold my evil. Don't interfere with my plans, even though that's kind of your thing, and I should know, because I read your dossier." He could've been the Erik Lehnsherr to my Charles Xavier. 

Remaking would be, as Mordin would put it, problematic. Too many things all tied together to bother with. 

Im just a soldier im no politican i leave the PR to ea and udina. what i would like to know is would you be interested in playing such a game? would it generate sufficent profit if done right? would  bioware be willing to agree to such an idea. 

The way i see it. most players were happy but not as happy as they could have been hence the grades while some took it harder than others. the majority might be happy with a remake if its a better game and if it allows a more consistent story and world. it will be hard to continue from the ending of mass effect 3 without a lot of sacrafice which is why there is so much talk on prequels and spinoff when its been said by polls that most would a game that comes after the events 2286

[Seival]

ME Trilogy remake with 100% the same story, but with next-gen graphical engine = good idea. It would be great to see dialogue scenes like this (in terms of cinematic quality) in Mass Effect: http://www.youtube.c...qi9ww-bM#t=319s

ME Trilogy total remake = bad idea... very bad idea.

[Liamv2]

I could imagine a improved graphics and gameplay remake in 10 years time but not the story

[KingZayd]

erezike wrote...

Enhanced wrote...

This is similar to those "Retake" threads

I did a lot of reading on the mass effect forum(too much reading i would even dare say.) the retake campagin focused too much on the ending and less on the game itself.  this post isnt about the ending. its about game and series as a whole and to find out if you support the idea of remake to the third episode in order to allow the players more freedom in shaping their story.
less plot armor and less cannonzing shepard.

The ending is the reason I'd want the game remade. Remaking the game and keeping the same ending would be pointless.

[Brako Version 5.0]

If any of the games needed a remake its the original. Better acting, better story telling, and better gameplay combat are much needed when compared to the newer games.

[Steelcan]

No.

I don't like what they did with ME3, but I'm not likely to get what I want.  They'd probably just screw it up even more.

Modifié par Steelcan, 14 mai 2013 - 08:17 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

What? Are you ****ing insane?!

[KingZayd]

Brako Version 5.0 wrote...

If any of the games needed a remake its the original. Better acting, better story telling, and better gameplay combat are much needed when compared to the newer games.

I agree on the combat part. If someone could add the new combat from ME2 or ME3 to the first game without the stupid thermal clips, that'd be great.

[GreyLycanTrope]

What we have is what we're stuck with I'm afraid.

[AlexMBrennan]

Well, I don't think you quite get the idea of renegades - getting the job done at any cost which happens to include stopping former allies who are now indoctrinated. True, that could have been handled better but ME never had an "evil" side and does not really need one either - that's a matter of personal preference, and many games work perfectly well that way.

[KaiserShep]

KingZayd wrote...

Brako Version 5.0 wrote...

If any of the games needed a remake its the original. Better acting, better story telling, and better gameplay combat are much needed when compared to the newer games.

I agree on the combat part. If someone could add the new combat from ME2 or ME3 to the first game without the stupid thermal clips, that'd be great.

This is kind of why I love the M7 Lancer you get in the Citadel DLC. It's certainly not the most powerful, but with incendiary ammo and the barrel extension it's useful enough. But really, I agree with all of this. Seriously, if the first game was made with some of the mechanics, voice acting and scoring of the second or third game, it would probably be the absolute best of the lot in every respect. 

Modifié par KaiserShep, 14 mai 2013 - 08:43 .

[Erez Kristal]

Seival wrote...

ME Trilogy remake with 100% the same story, but with next-gen graphical engine = good idea. It would be great to see dialogue scenes like this (in terms of cinematic quality) in Mass Effect: http://www.youtube.c...qi9ww-bM#t=319s

ME Trilogy total remake = bad idea... very bad idea.

Kickass. reminds me of incognito prophecy.


I thinking remaking something with 100% wont work for many people. take for example total reacall. because you already know what is going to happen. and if we try to do mass effect 1 and 2 all overagain we might as well write off a completly new game. 

KingZayd wrote...

The ending is the reason I'd want the game remade. Remaking the game and keeping the same ending would be pointless.

Remaking mass effect 3 like it never happened would have to lead to a new ending. it an entire new plot (with the reapers threat still on the way) who knows what might happen? maybe they run out of fuel? maybe instead of 6 monthes its three years away. maybe they all suffer from lack of food.  maybe a batarian human war. maybe humans give the batarians a few systems in order to prevent war, the universe is the limit. but regardless of what happens. its the focus of letting the players play shepard as what they deem him or her to be which is important. game for the players not the directors. its a game not a movie.(or is it? )

[KaiserShep]

I guess they'd have to write Zaeed out of it if they did it all over again, since the voice actor for him died.

[Erez Kristal]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Well, I don't think you quite get the idea of renegades - getting the job done at any cost which happens to include stopping former allies who are now indoctrinated. True, that could have been handled better but ME never had an "evil" side and does not really need one either - that's a matter of personal preference, and many games work perfectly well that way.

Renegades are not that complicated. they simply get the job done. they debate on the costs and decided  on the best course of action. but doing the task is more important than looking good or do what others deem to be a moral decision(like getting edi in the middle of the charge for the beem to go on a evac for the normandy.... moral decision..)

The job was to stop the reapers and save earth. some renegades would think its the right to decision to work with cerebrus in order to achieve that goal. even if they have to abduct and turn them into assault troopers.

 It is debatable when cerebrus were indoctiranated(i will say only at the end out of desperation) i could argue easily that anderson was more indoctirnated than cerebrus becuase while they were working on a way to stop the reapers he went on a vendetta to destroy them and damage the alliance. all of these are good debates which should be left for the play to decide in game and not decided for him. it felt like there was only 1 right path in mass effect 3 and you skipped 6 monthes of story time without much to build it on. obviously the writers assumed everyone would turn themselves in for the alliance even though there are many other ways to stop a war with the batarians.

[Der Ivan91]

Remake?

Yeah, right.
IF there would be a remake/reboot of the Mass Effect series, they will obviously start with the first game^^
I do admit that with the latest Frostbite engine (the one from BF3) and they gathered experience from what is and what is not a good idea they could make an AWESOME remake of the first game, but the problem will be that it simply isn't anything new.

So they would rather make a spinoff that has its setting before/after the events of ME3 (it is still possible that it overlaps with some of the games)
They can simply earn more money AND more popularity if they made an entirely new character rather than just recreating the first game using the latest graphics engine (they may make a remake afterwards though)

[Oni Changas]

How is un-****ing ME lore a bad idea? Remake would only help csuse it cant get any worse.

[Megaton_Hope]

Sounds like a way to lose money and not accomplish much.

[liggy002]

At this point, remaking Mass Effect 3 and trashing that stupid Catalyst story line would be the smartest thing they could do. Unfortunately, they are convinced that ME3 actually did the series justice.

[liggy002]

Steelcan wrote...

No.

I don't like what they did with ME3, but I'm not likely to get what I want.  They'd probably just screw it up even more.

Judging by what I've seen, I would have to agree.