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[KingZayd]

liggy002 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

No.

I don't like what they did with ME3, but I'm not likely to get what I want.  They'd probably just screw it up even more.

Judging by what I've seen, I would have to agree.

Unfortunately, I  don't have much faith in their abilities either. When I heard about the EC, I figured it'd be nearly impossible to make the ending more stupid without a deliberate effort. They managed.

[Erez Kristal]

KingZayd wrote...

liggy002 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

No.

I don't like what they did with ME3, but I'm not likely to get what I want. They'd probably just screw it up even more.

Judging by what I've seen, I would have to agree.

Unfortunately, I don't have much faith in their abilities either. When I heard about the EC, I figured it'd be nearly impossible to make the ending more stupid without a deliberate effort. They managed.

The extended cut was a mess i agree, but only because they tried repair things without taking any bold moves. they believed all that was needed was a more emotional time with your squadmates.

Mass effect 3 is commercial success but fall short of its true potential to write its name as one of the best action shooters/rpgs of all time. it had all the setting to do it after the epicness of mass effect 2. (see marks by players) wouldntt rebooting it after the true events of mass effect 2 be worth it?(commercially) think of how a game free of manipulation to your shepard by the writers will be like, where you are free to take real decisions and maybe even have chance to remake it so your choices from the past games actually matters.

OniTYME wrote...

How is un-****ing ME lore a bad idea? Remake would only help csuse it cant get any worse.

the mass effect universe was gravely changed after me3 it will be impossibile to make a game that arrives soon(a few hundred years) after the events of me3  that will much sense lore wise. it will require a lot of sacrafice for those who imported saves. debunking your decisions even further. 

Modifié par erezike, 15 mai 2013 - 05:59 .

[GimmeDaGun]

I bought and played ME3 already and I liked it. A remake? I would absolutely not waste my money and time on such a thing. No.

[Brako Version 5.0]

simfamSP wrote...

I'm betting it will have a remake in a few years time. Perhaps an Enhanced Edition. The trilogy is bloody fantastic, but not without its flaws. In fact, its flaws are purposely there in order to give all other games a chance. The potential ME has/had to be the greatest game trilogy ever made is/was astounding.

And the thing I really like it that it was all on this gen. Its ok if you have a PC as that won't change anything. But to have the entire trilogy on the same gen means you can play the games over and over, and without having to dig out a new console to play the earlier games or anything.

I just wish they had put the entire DLC packages on the trilogy boxset. This way in a couple of years from now when we look back at how great Mass Effect was (much like people did with KOTOR), we could pop the discs in the old PS3/360 and play the games all over again.

Instead. Because DLC usually seems to be time stamped (sort of) this means that after a while it will no longer function on console if you haven't played it for so long. Then if SONY or MS shut the pre-gen servers off, thats the point of no return.

As you said, its flawed yes. But the ME trilogy is probably the best trilogy ever made. And with how gaming seems to be aiming for the 'pickup and play' gamers these last couple of years, this type of gaming saga could be the last we see for a long time in gaming, including next gen.

[PsyrenY]

erezike wrote...

but if you were a bit renegade your claw for answers and realize you were duped and captured by anderson in his vendetta against cerebrus. but when you see him you are forced to play nice like nothing happened(my renegade wanted to put a bullet in anderson head for dooming humanity)

...What? Anderson didn't capture you, you turned yourself in. Anderson even testified on your behalf, otherwise "you'd have been court-martialed and left to rot in the brig."

KingZayd wrote...

Unfortunately, I  don't have much faith in their abilities either. When I heard about the EC, I figured it'd be nearly impossible to make the ending more stupid without a deliberate effort. They managed.

And only in BSN would sentiments like this be a majority viewpoint.

Modifié par Optimystic_X, 15 mai 2013 - 06:35 .

[Arcian]

Seival wrote...

ME Trilogy remake with 100% the same story, but with next-gen graphical engine = good idea. It would be great to see dialogue scenes like this (in terms of cinematic quality) in Mass Effect: http://www.youtube.c...qi9ww-bM#t=319s

ME Trilogy total remake = bad idea... very bad idea.

I believe the Reapers are speaking through that one.

Modifié par Arcian, 15 mai 2013 - 06:54 .

[Erez Kristal]

Optimystic_X wrote...

erezike wrote...

but if you were a bit renegade your claw for answers and realize you were duped and captured by anderson in his vendetta against cerebrus. but when you see him you are forced to play nice like nothing happened(my renegade wanted to put a bullet in anderson head for dooming humanity)

...What? Anderson didn't capture you, you turned yourself in. Anderson even testified on your behalf, otherwise "you'd have been court-martialed and left to rot in the brig."

KingZayd wrote...

Unfortunately, I  don't have much faith in their abilities either. When I heard about the EC, I figured it'd be nearly impossible to make the ending more stupid without a deliberate effort. They managed.

And only in BSN would sentiments like this be a majority viewpoint.

Turn myself in? why would i do that while the reapers are on the loose there are many other ways to stop a war that wont include dismantling the only team that could do something against the collectors. even hackets tells you the alliance is outmatched with the collectors when you do arrival. and there is still so much for you to do. you cant turn yourself in not now. and why would you? to protect some politic fallout? just give the batarians a few systems and be done with it.  

if you wanted to turn yourself in while the reapers are coming thats fine. im just saying it was a showcase of how your control of shepard was taken away from you. you should have been able to choose to do such an important decision. or be captured if you refuse. i assume sheard was captured by the only person he trusted.

about the extended cut
http://social.biowar...ndex/13967511/1

[Erez Kristal]

GimmeDaGun wrote...

I bought and played ME3 already and I liked it. A remake? I would absolutely not waste my money and time on such a thing. No.

What if its really good and compelling... like score 9 by fans. on gamespot.
 what if its another 8.5 but with a lot of intesesting stories for your shepard. you are honestly telling me you wont be tempted?

[AlanC9]

Maybe, if there are absolutely no other RPGs that year.

But if I've got a choice, I prefer the work of doing a remak be put into a project I'm actually interested in.

Modifié par AlanC9, 15 mai 2013 - 07:56 .

[SpamBot2000]

No, the best they could do is to finally fix the ending and move on. And by on, I mean post-Reapers, post-Walters. But that can't happen while the thing is still in pieces. You can't build on foundations rotten to the core. 

If you can unleash a magic beam once, that means it's a universe in which magic beams are an ever-present potential. Silliness lurks in every particle.

Modifié par SpamBot2000, 15 mai 2013 - 10:57 .

[Erez Kristal]

SpamBot2000 wrote...

No, the best they could do is to finally fix the ending and move on. And by on, I mean post-Reapers, post-Walters. But that can't happen while the thing is still in pieces. You can't build on foundations rotten to the core. 

If you can unleash a magic beam once, that means it's a universe in which magic beams are an ever-present potential. Silliness lurks in every particle.

This is why they need to hold the fleets and focus on sovereign.

What if they decided the third game was nightmare and remaked mass effect 3 from the direct ending of me2? no time skip. no crucible countless possibilities on how to end it and you wont have magical beams. that can destroy or alter all life in the galaxy. keep it simple.

[NeonFlux117]

Why remake perfection?????




































Just kidding. Yeah, Remake ME3 with ME2 squadmates, especialy your Romance. Rewrite cerberus arc to make it a more ambigous narrative. For example not- "you be indocrintated, so you be bad guy" type thing they did with TIM.

And last, but certainly not least. Use IT as the ending. Say what you will about IT'ers. But the IT is an amazing piece of fan fiction. And guess what? They don't need to add anything to the end game. Cause the stuff's already there!!!!







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Or not....

[SpamBot2000]

Well, we can dream. But personally I try to keep to feasible suggestions. The capitalist mode of production simply cannot handle such a remake. Can't really see a flood of pre-orders following the announcement of "Mass Effect 3: For Real This Time. Honest!"

For that kind of an investment, most people would really require a pretty comprehensive wish-fullfillment before laying down the $$$$. And I don't think a demographic exists that would allow for that.

Modifié par SpamBot2000, 15 mai 2013 - 11:23 .

[dorktainian]

liggy002 wrote...

At this point, remaking Mass Effect 3 and trashing that stupid Catalyst story line would be the smartest thing they could do. Unfortunately, they are convinced that ME3 actually did the series justice.

   


so much this.  

[Erez Kristal]

SpamBot2000 wrote...

Well, we can dream. But personally I try to keep to feasible suggestions. The capitalist mode of production simply cannot handle such a remake. Can't really see a flood of pre-orders following the announcement of "Mass Effect 3: For Real This Time. Honest!"

For that kind of an investment, most people would really require a pretty comprehensive wish-fullfillment before laying down the $$$$. And I don't think a demographic exists that would allow for that.

Bioware producers said the next title wont be called mass effect 4. so thats actually a rather good title!

If they manage to no disregard the current third episode completely(entire game as nightmare and and not just the ending) then they could work around it. mass effect 2 ended with a lot of hope for the future, if they cash on that hope they could make an amazing game. one of my main problems with me3 was that they threw the big threat too soon without any build up. and then you had to go around to fight mostly cerebrus who were just a moment ago your allies without any buildup to why they suddenly betray you. without any decision making on your end. 

As hard as this could be to pull off. wouldnt it be worth to try the very least?(Liara quote)

NeonFlux117 wrote...

And last, but certainly not least. Use IT as the ending. Say what you will about IT'ers. But the IT is an amazing piece of fan fiction. And guess what? They don't need to add anything to the end game. Cause the stuff's already there!!!!
..

The problem with it is that you still need to find a way to stop the reapers in order to keep the beam of hope. although i wouldnt mind seeing shepard shoot himself in the head to avoid indocternation and have next me with another joe doe. we dont need a happy flavored game just a well written one.

Modifié par erezike, 15 mai 2013 - 11:40 .

[crimzontearz]

Play the witcher 2 OP, you would like that

[Erez Kristal]

crimzontearz wrote...

Play the witcher 2 OP, you would like that

Few things beat side rolling and two furious strikes on the back of a mook. despite witcher 2 being one of the best games of all time. i feel me2 is better because of character interaction well built climax. (i did care a l lot about triss though.
Me3 could have been just as good if not better because we are already more invested in the series. this can still happen.

[crimzontearz]

I will give you ME2 has a great climax, better than TW2...but TW2 handles a lot of things better including branching paths, gear, progression, atmosphere, art direction and so on

The one and ONLY thing that royally upsets me about that game is the lack of NG+ especially given how long and hard you have to work to get the best gear and builds

Did you finish it in Iorveth or Roach paths? They can be very different and Iorveth's path leads better to the climax

[Erez Kristal]

crimzontearz wrote...

I will give you ME2 has a great climax, better than TW2...but TW2 handles a lot of things better including branching paths, gear, progression, atmosphere, art direction and so on

The one and ONLY thing that royally upsets me about that game is the lack of NG+ especially given how long and hard you have to work to get the best gear and builds

Did you finish it in Iorveth or Roach paths? They can be very different and Iorveth's path leads better to the climax

I finished it only on the roach path because it was the only path that sat well with me. ( i dont make habit of being a friends with people who shoot arrows at me) The paths is a great showcase on how to make it possibile for your choices to matter. art and atmosphere were also amazing. i disagree on the gear part. i prefered the more simple inventory of  witcher 1 found it to be more realistic. I hated the fact that there was always a little bit better blade or armor around the corner. i also hated that the bandits in the forest were much stronger than the knights in the beginning of the game. but i hate leveling in general. for me rp is the ability to customize your character abilities and actions. level up is an artifical sense of progression. 

Lets not stray from the mass effect topic though  Whats your take on a remake?

[crimzontearz]

(last thing I swear) see if there was a NG+ you would be all set with that! I am petitioning for it being implemented in TW3

as for a remake? They would have to (for me) change the ending and leave the freaking speculations out of the door, they would need to stop talking to us, through the game, as if we are children and cut the scripted bull**** like Mars and Thessia and the Coup. Also I would probably not buy the game on principle if Mac had any hand in it beside writing Garrus.

Lastly they would need to bring back full RPG mechanics not this crap we were given in ME3 and that includes squaddies progression and customization

[KingZayd]

Optimystic_X wrote...

erezike wrote...

but if you were a bit renegade your claw for answers and realize you were duped and captured by anderson in his vendetta against cerebrus. but when you see him you are forced to play nice like nothing happened(my renegade wanted to put a bullet in anderson head for dooming humanity)

...What? Anderson didn't capture you, you turned yourself in. Anderson even testified on your behalf, otherwise "you'd have been court-martialed and left to rot in the brig."

KingZayd wrote...

Unfortunately, I  don't have much faith in their abilities either. When I heard about the EC, I figured it'd be nearly impossible to make the ending more stupid without a deliberate effort. They managed.

And only in BSN would sentiments like this be a majority viewpoint.

Unfortunately it's not the majority viewpoint.

Modifié par KingZayd, 15 mai 2013 - 02:12 .

[Erez Kristal]

crimzontearz wrote...

(last thing I swear) see if there was a NG+ you would be all set with that! I am petitioning for it being implemented in TW3

as for a remake? They would have to (for me) change the ending and leave the freaking speculations out of the door, they would need to stop talking to us, through the game, as if we are children and cut the scripted bull**** like Mars and Thessia and the Coup. Also I would probably not buy the game on principle if Mac had any hand in it beside writing Garrus.

Lastly they would need to bring back full RPG mechanics not this crap we were given in ME3 and that includes squaddies progression and customization

I agree about mars, thessia and coup(even though gameplay wise was rather fun, storywise not so much) also about the fact that its better not screw with us so much when it comes to an ending.  what is it about mac walters that pisses you off?

[Erez Kristal]

KingZayd wrote...

Optimystic_X wrote...

erezike wrote...

but if you were a bit renegade your claw for answers and realize you were duped and captured by anderson in his vendetta against cerebrus. but when you see him you are forced to play nice like nothing happened(my renegade wanted to put a bullet in anderson head for dooming humanity)

...What? Anderson didn't capture you, you turned yourself in. Anderson even testified on your behalf, otherwise "you'd have been court-martialed and left to rot in the brig."

KingZayd wrote...

Unfortunately, I  don't have much faith in their abilities either. When I heard about the EC, I figured it'd be nearly impossible to make the ending more stupid without a deliberate effort. They managed.

And only in BSN would sentiments like this be a majority viewpoint.

Unfortunately it's not the majority viewpoint.

Its the internet, its up to us to prove them wrong!   i dont think most people who are unsatasfied with something will write on it. they would just move on. and besides no where in the world would the normandy evac would count as good writing...

[crimzontearz]

erezike wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

(last thing I swear) see if there was a NG+ you would be all set with that! I am petitioning for it being implemented in TW3

as for a remake? They would have to (for me) change the ending and leave the freaking speculations out of the door, they would need to stop talking to us, through the game, as if we are children and cut the scripted bull**** like Mars and Thessia and the Coup. Also I would probably not buy the game on principle if Mac had any hand in it beside writing Garrus.

Lastly they would need to bring back full RPG mechanics not this crap we were given in ME3 and that includes squaddies progression and customization

I agree about mars, thessia and coup(even though gameplay wise was rather fun, storywise not so much) also about the fact that its better not screw with us so much when it comes to an ending.  what is it about mac walters that pisses you off?

his attitude........the fact he implied we were too dumb to understand without context and then retconned part of his work but not enough to please the bulk of complainers, the fact he is THE REASON why there is no clear cut shepard lives ending without speculation bull****

the fact he did not have the testicular fortitude to come out and defend his work publicly without it being a softball question interview with the BSN community manager

[Little Princess Peach]

how about you remake ME3 so we can crit at you're ending, really Bioware tried there best with ME3 yeah they failed but I liked the interactions the most