I wonder why they would take her to red cliffe I think itis just a fall back since they didn't want to put with alistar dead and anora dead the kingdom went into chaos. so lets say if she isn't in power she is deadKnight of Dane wrote...
If Al locks her in Fort Drakon and then dies slaying the Archdemon she comes back as Queen in the epilogue, so no she doesn't die from that.garrusfan1 wrote...
actually anora would be dead since she likely went to fort drakon and that was overrun by the darkspawn so she is dead or was taken and is a brrodmothersandalisthemaker wrote...
Alistair = King
Anora = Rotting in the dungeons
Warden = Disappeared
As Alistair says himself; they need her as insurrance if he dies, so I just assume they lock her up in Redcliffe Castle.
Best person to be on the Ferelden throne for DA:I?
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Knight of Dane wrote...
If Al locks her in Fort Drakon and then dies slaying the Archdemon she comes back as Queen in the epilogue, so no she doesn't die from that.garrusfan1 wrote...
actually anora would be dead since she likely went to fort drakon and that was overrun by the darkspawn so she is dead or was taken and is a brrodmothersandalisthemaker wrote...
Alistair = King
Anora = Rotting in the dungeons
Warden = Disappeared
As Alistair says himself; they need her as insurrance if he dies, so I just assume they lock her up in Redcliffe Castle.
This is what happened in my playthrough. I really hope we get to see her in DA III.
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Posté 14 mai 2013 - 11:48
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I would kind of love it if putting the Warden on the throne totally backfired. Good job with that ambition, unfortunately it wasn't for the betterment of your homeland.
But Jimmy is most likely right.
Indeed! Mighty Printer Ink of JUSTICE!
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Posté 14 mai 2013 - 11:49
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They needed a default for a screwup warden.garrusfan1 wrote...
I wonder why they would take her to red cliffe I think itis just a fall back since they didn't want to put with alistar dead and anora dead the kingdom went into chaos. so lets say if she isn't in power she is deadKnight of Dane wrote...
If Al locks her in Fort Drakon and then dies slaying the Archdemon she comes back as Queen in the epilogue, so no she doesn't die from that.garrusfan1 wrote...
actually anora would be dead since she likely went to fort drakon and that was overrun by the darkspawn so she is dead or was taken and is a brrodmothersandalisthemaker wrote...
Alistair = King
Anora = Rotting in the dungeons
Warden = Disappeared
As Alistair says himself; they need her as insurrance if he dies, so I just assume they lock her up in Redcliffe Castle.
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Posté 14 mai 2013 - 11:51
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Fast Jimmy wrote...
King Canon.
He alone would have the ability to make this decision matter in even the smallest degree. Instead, Sultan Save Import is going to make this entire conversation totally pointless - it doesn't matter who is on the throne because, quite simply, it won't be talked about except in the most superlative of ways.
King Canon as companion and LI in DAI!
Seriously though, I agree, the choice wouldn't likely matter that much. Ferelden will have the same stance regardless its ruler/s.
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Posté 14 mai 2013 - 11:51
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Me too, I always liked Anora. On my first few playthroughs I always picked her alone, but nowdays it's always either her+Al or her+Warden unless I play through as a Alimancer, then I prefer to leave Ferelden to her and go be a Warden with Alistair.TheBlackAdder13 wrote...
Knight of Dane wrote...
If Al locks her in Fort Drakon and then dies slaying the Archdemon she comes back as Queen in the epilogue, so no she doesn't die from that.garrusfan1 wrote...
actually anora would be dead since she likely went to fort drakon and that was overrun by the darkspawn so she is dead or was taken and is a brrodmothersandalisthemaker wrote...
Alistair = King
Anora = Rotting in the dungeons
Warden = Disappeared
As Alistair says himself; they need her as insurrance if he dies, so I just assume they lock her up in Redcliffe Castle.
This is what happened in my playthrough. I really hope we get to see her in DA III.
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Posté 14 mai 2013 - 11:51
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Knight of Dane wrote...
They needed a default for a screwup warden.garrusfan1 wrote...
I wonder why they would take her to red cliffe I think itis just a fall back since they didn't want to put with alistar dead and anora dead the kingdom went into chaos. so lets say if she isn't in power she is deadKnight of Dane wrote...
If Al locks her in Fort Drakon and then dies slaying the Archdemon she comes back as Queen in the epilogue, so no she doesn't die from that.garrusfan1 wrote...
actually anora would be dead since she likely went to fort drakon and that was overrun by the darkspawn so she is dead or was taken and is a brrodmothersandalisthemaker wrote...
Alistair = King
Anora = Rotting in the dungeons
Warden = Disappeared
As Alistair says himself; they need her as insurrance if he dies, so I just assume they lock her up in Redcliffe Castle.
Pah. My warden did not screw up in the least. Have fun when that OGB destroys Thedas.
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Posté 14 mai 2013 - 11:52
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It's hard to say who would actually be better, since we've seen very little of either in a leadership role post-coronation. Epilogue slides have been proven false before, so I'm not sure trusting what they say is really the best course of action.
It's hard to see how much ruling Anora has really done in DAO. The game tells us she's a great ruler and beloved by the people, but what the cutscenes show us are the numerous times she is manipulated and overpowered by her father. That's not really the greatest confidence builder. In attempting to learn more about her father's actions, she got captured and locked up by Howe, suggesting she might not be the best strategist or tactician.
On the other hand, Alistair seems very reluctant to lead, defecting to a new recruit as soon as he has the chance. He's battle-hardened and has seen a lot of warfare up close, but how well that would translate to state affairs is questionable. A hardened Alistair will at least speak up and assert that he wants the throne, but again, whether or not he will be any good at it is debatable.
I'm not sure Alistair and Anora ruling jointly really solves anything. Do their flaws balance each other out? Would they wrestle with each other for control? Would one let the other walk all over them, since both have a history of doing just that? IAgain, hard to say.
In short. I don't think there's a "best" choice. It comes down to which is most palatable. I tend towards putting Alistair on the throne myself. For some Wardens, it comes down to nepotism. For others, it's a matter of the devil you know versus the devil you don't. At least Alistair pops up in DA2 and seems to be keeping the country together, so that's a plus. But anything could yet happen.
For the record, I also have Alistair do the ritual every time, even with male wardens. At least that means there's an heir to the throne running around somewhere...
It's hard to see how much ruling Anora has really done in DAO. The game tells us she's a great ruler and beloved by the people, but what the cutscenes show us are the numerous times she is manipulated and overpowered by her father. That's not really the greatest confidence builder. In attempting to learn more about her father's actions, she got captured and locked up by Howe, suggesting she might not be the best strategist or tactician.
On the other hand, Alistair seems very reluctant to lead, defecting to a new recruit as soon as he has the chance. He's battle-hardened and has seen a lot of warfare up close, but how well that would translate to state affairs is questionable. A hardened Alistair will at least speak up and assert that he wants the throne, but again, whether or not he will be any good at it is debatable.
I'm not sure Alistair and Anora ruling jointly really solves anything. Do their flaws balance each other out? Would they wrestle with each other for control? Would one let the other walk all over them, since both have a history of doing just that? IAgain, hard to say.
In short. I don't think there's a "best" choice. It comes down to which is most palatable. I tend towards putting Alistair on the throne myself. For some Wardens, it comes down to nepotism. For others, it's a matter of the devil you know versus the devil you don't. At least Alistair pops up in DA2 and seems to be keeping the country together, so that's a plus. But anything could yet happen.
For the record, I also have Alistair do the ritual every time, even with male wardens. At least that means there's an heir to the throne running around somewhere...
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Posté 14 mai 2013 - 11:53
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In My main playthrough, Tharkûn became King ruling with Anora. But with the allure of all kinds of crazy sex with Morrigan and seeing his dragon god baby thing, made him go through the magical portal thingy at the end of Witch Hunt. So if I ever bother(very unlikely) to play DA3, Anora would be ruling alone.
Alistair with Anora would have been best, I guess.
Alistair with Anora would have been best, I guess.
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Posté 14 mai 2013 - 11:54
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TheBlackAdder13 wrote...
Knight of Dane wrote...
They needed a default for a screwup warden.garrusfan1 wrote...
I wonder why they would take her to red cliffe I think itis just a fall back since they didn't want to put with alistar dead and anora dead the kingdom went into chaos. so lets say if she isn't in power she is deadKnight of Dane wrote...
If Al locks her in Fort Drakon and then dies slaying the Archdemon she comes back as Queen in the epilogue, so no she doesn't die from that.garrusfan1 wrote...
actually anora would be dead since she likely went to fort drakon and that was overrun by the darkspawn so she is dead or was taken and is a brrodmothersandalisthemaker wrote...
Alistair = King
Anora = Rotting in the dungeons
Warden = Disappeared
As Alistair says himself; they need her as insurrance if he dies, so I just assume they lock her up in Redcliffe Castle.
Pah. My warden did not screw up in the least. Have fun when that OGB destroys Thedas.
Not going to happen. The OGB will be no danger to anyone, ever. Simply because of the Save Import.
Your sacrifice was completely in vain. Because you were given a choice in that sacrifice and the devs have sworn to make that choice carreid over into future games, the choice will mean nothing.
Thedas will be no different with or without the OGB. Just like it will be no different if your Warden is dead or alive. To say otherwise is folly.
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Posté 15 mai 2013 - 12:00
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Not going to happen. The OGB will be no danger to anyone, ever. Simply because of the Save Import.
Your sacrifice was completely in vain. Because you were given a choice in that sacrifice and the devs have sworn to make that choice carreid over into future games, the choice will mean nothing.
Thedas will be no different with or without the OGB. Just like it will be no different if your Warden is dead or alive. To say otherwise is folly.
Oh good lord, you're using a post that was made in jest to continue to rail against importing choices (which is one of the reasons I enjoy the game). I know the decision won't have game changing choices or branches, but they can work in just enough variations and differing quests, interactions, etc, to highlight the consequences of said decisions, even if they won't ultimately have a game changing impact, which is fine by me.
And it was Alistair's sacrifice, not my warden's. The alienage needs a Bann after all. >
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Posté 15 mai 2013 - 12:02
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Agree with the Save Import, however I still think Morrigan has a role to play and regardless of choice at the Eluvian she is still alive.Fast Jimmy wrote...
Not going to happen. The OGB will be no danger to anyone, ever. Simply because of the Save Import.
Your sacrifice was completely in vain. Because you were given a choice in that sacrifice and the devs have sworn to make that choice carreid over into future games, the choice will mean nothing.
Thedas will be no different with or without the OGB. Just like it will be no different if your Warden is dead or alive. To say otherwise is folly.
The OGB can easily be replaced by anything for those that didn't do that choice. Since we have no idea where it leads and what she is planning / doing wherever she is.
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Posté 15 mai 2013 - 12:15
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Fast Jimmy wrote...
Not going to happen. The OGB will be no danger to anyone, ever. Simply because of the Save Import.
Your sacrifice was completely in vain. Because you were given a choice in that sacrifice and the devs have sworn to make that choice carreid over into future games, the choice will mean nothing.
Thedas will be no different with or without the OGB. Just like it will be no different if your Warden is dead or alive. To say otherwise is folly.
Indeed. I fully agree.
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Posté 15 mai 2013 - 12:16
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It does not matter which way you vote. Either way, your planet is doomed. DOOMED!
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Dude, I agreed with chu!TheBlackAdder13 wrote...
Knight of Dane wrote...
They needed a default for a screwup warden.garrusfan1 wrote...
I wonder why they would take her to red cliffe I think itis just a fall back since they didn't want to put with alistar dead and anora dead the kingdom went into chaos. so lets say if she isn't in power she is deadKnight of Dane wrote...
If Al locks her in Fort Drakon and then dies slaying the Archdemon she comes back as Queen in the epilogue, so no she doesn't die from that.garrusfan1 wrote...
actually anora would be dead since she likely went to fort drakon and that was overrun by the darkspawn so she is dead or was taken and is a brrodmothersandalisthemaker wrote...
Alistair = King
Anora = Rotting in the dungeons
Warden = Disappeared
As Alistair says himself; they need her as insurrance if he dies, so I just assume they lock her up in Redcliffe Castle.
Pah. My warden did not screw up in the least. Have fun when that OGB destroys Thedas.
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Posté 15 mai 2013 - 12:44
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Obvious....SANDAL
We have our answer people. Nothing more to see here.
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Posté 15 mai 2013 - 12:46
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Hardened Alistair and Anora= Alistair and Anora reportedly rule as equals and lead Ferelden into a golden age. Honestly best outcome unless you find Anora ineffective, untrustworthy or both.
Unhardened/Hardened Alistair and Queen Cousland= Fireforged lovers rise together as king and queen, best pairing if you aren't worried about the fertility thing.
Hardened Alistair solo= Less malleable and more bold while still remaining a noble and beloved king.
Anora and King Cousland= Hero of Ferelden marries the competent queen, what's the worst that could happen?
Unhardened Alistair and Anora= No different from when Cailan was king with Anora running the show.
Unhardened Alistair solo= Easily malleable and could be seen as a pawn of Eamon
Unhardened/Hardened Alistair and Queen Cousland= Fireforged lovers rise together as king and queen, best pairing if you aren't worried about the fertility thing.
Hardened Alistair solo= Less malleable and more bold while still remaining a noble and beloved king.
Anora and King Cousland= Hero of Ferelden marries the competent queen, what's the worst that could happen?
Unhardened Alistair and Anora= No different from when Cailan was king with Anora running the show.
Unhardened Alistair solo= Easily malleable and could be seen as a pawn of Eamon
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Posté 15 mai 2013 - 01:55
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IMHO: Hardened Alistair ruling alone with the noble warden as an advisor.
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Alistair.
The last thing Ferelden needs is an arrogant, manipulative snake in the grass who thinks getting herself captured is a clever plan.
The last thing Ferelden needs is an arrogant, manipulative snake in the grass who thinks getting herself captured is a clever plan.
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Plaintiff wrote...
Alistair.
The last thing Ferelden needs is an arrogant, manipulative snake in the grass who thinks getting herself captured is a clever plan.
Well, it's called intrigue. See: Orlais.
Or is it because it's Ferelden and not any other country in Thedas?
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Posté 15 mai 2013 - 03:10
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Save import or not, I want my wild witch and son. If Bioware decides that they'll ignore Morrigan and her child (OGB or "normal") I will not be happy.Fast Jimmy wrote...
TheBlackAdder13 wrote...
Knight of Dane wrote...
They needed a default for a screwup warden.garrusfan1 wrote...
I wonder why they would take her to red cliffe I think itis just a fall back since they didn't want to put with alistar dead and anora dead the kingdom went into chaos. so lets say if she isn't in power she is deadKnight of Dane wrote...
If Al locks her in Fort Drakon and then dies slaying the Archdemon she comes back as Queen in the epilogue, so no she doesn't die from that.garrusfan1 wrote...
actually anora would be dead since she likely went to fort drakon and that was overrun by the darkspawn so she is dead or was taken and is a brrodmothersandalisthemaker wrote...
Alistair = King
Anora = Rotting in the dungeons
Warden = Disappeared
As Alistair says himself; they need her as insurrance if he dies, so I just assume they lock her up in Redcliffe Castle.
Pah. My warden did not screw up in the least. Have fun when that OGB destroys Thedas.
Not going to happen. The OGB will be no danger to anyone, ever. Simply because of the Save Import.
Your sacrifice was completely in vain. Because you were given a choice in that sacrifice and the devs have sworn to make that choice carreid over into future games, the choice will mean nothing.
Thedas will be no different with or without the OGB. Just like it will be no different if your Warden is dead or alive. To say otherwise is folly.
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Posté 15 mai 2013 - 03:20
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Well my mage warden is a selfish girl so I have a hardened Alistair on the throne and Anora rotting in the dungeons. Too bad she vanished somewhere.
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Posté 15 mai 2013 - 03:30
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Every country deserves honest, reliable leaders, which Anora is not. She's also not particularly intelligent.Oohforf wrote...
Plaintiff wrote...
Alistair.
The last thing Ferelden needs is an arrogant, manipulative snake in the grass who thinks getting herself captured is a clever plan.
Well, it's called intrigue. See: Orlais.
Or is it because it's Ferelden and not any other country in Thedas?
"That's just how politics works" is a pathetic excuse, it's not something we should accept in fantasy or in real life.
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