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Best person to be on the Ferelden throne for DA:I?
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#176
Posté 18 mai 2013 - 04:42
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I'd say it's a toss up between Unhardened/Hardened Alistair with a competent Cousland bride, most of the Couslands the fans create wouldn't do well in the role in my frank opinion - and Hardened Alistair with Anora. When it comes to the succession, however, I think we can almost all agree that the chances of an heir being produced are unlikely regardless of the scenario. Except maybe in the case of Alistiar ruling on his own and choosing a bride that wasn't the Human Noble. Anora seems to be barren, and we all know how small the chances are of a Warden on Warden pairing producing any offspring. So regardless of how takes the throne now, chances are Ferelden will be thrown into turmoil of some kind once Alistair/Anora/Cousland die and no blooded heir is apparent.
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#177
Posté 18 mai 2013 - 11:04
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That's taste for you.XxDeonxX wrote...
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I'd be very interested to see a political theme in Dragon Age that involved democracy vs. monarchy or something similar.
That sounds extremely awful and uninteresting
You saý a pile of vomit, I say a complete meal.
#178
Posté 18 mai 2013 - 01:11
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XxDeonxX wrote...
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I'd be very interested to see a political theme in Dragon Age that involved democracy vs. monarchy or something similar.
That sounds extremely awful and uninteresting
well some of us are interested in politics, which is something I think DA could need,so speak for yourself.
#179
Posté 18 mai 2013 - 01:16
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Democracy is always boring in fantasy settings because it tries to apply our modern moral values in a medieval setting wich breaks the immersion.
#180
Posté 18 mai 2013 - 01:47
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And if done right, it can be very interesting. I myself could understand people somewhere in Thedas (heck why not even Ferelden) thinks that the monarch years have been bad for years and will turn worse now with a templar/mage war, and thinks they don't need a king or queen to tell them what is right.
#181
Posté 18 mai 2013 - 02:18
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I think that the hardened Alistair and Anora combination is a strong one, although the 'best' would be the Warden and Anora if your Warden stays in Ferelden and doesn't go through the Eluvian.
Assuming your Warden isn't a complete **** of course.
Assuming your Warden isn't a complete **** of course.
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#182
Posté 18 mai 2013 - 04:33
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Anora and my Cousland Warden, I'll bet Leliana and her friend didn't bother to look in the Palace.
#183
Posté 18 mai 2013 - 07:17
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Anora+Male Warden = Golden Age
#184
Posté 19 mai 2013 - 01:39
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Hawke_12 wrote...
XxDeonxX wrote...
Knight of Dane wrote...
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I'd be very interested to see a political theme in Dragon Age that involved democracy vs. monarchy or something similar.
That sounds extremely awful and uninteresting
well some of us are interested in politics, which is something I think DA could need,so speak for yourself.
I'm interested in politics, I wish DA had alot more of it... But the whole democracy vs monarchy thing sounds awful to me
#185
Posté 19 mai 2013 - 02:53
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XxDeonxX wrote...
Hawke_12 wrote...
XxDeonxX wrote...
Knight of Dane wrote...
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I'd be very interested to see a political theme in Dragon Age that involved democracy vs. monarchy or something similar.
That sounds extremely awful and uninteresting
well some of us are interested in politics, which is something I think DA could need,so speak for yourself.
I'm interested in politics, I wish DA had alot more of it... But the whole democracy vs monarchy thing sounds awful to me
Yeah. It just wouldn't seem right when it comes to Thedas and its setting. Need Feudalism and Theocracy.
#186
Posté 19 mai 2013 - 03:23
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Why?Oohforf wrote...
XxDeonxX wrote...
Hawke_12 wrote...
XxDeonxX wrote...
Knight of Dane wrote...
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I'd be very interested to see a political theme in Dragon Age that involved democracy vs. monarchy or something similar.
That sounds extremely awful and uninteresting
well some of us are interested in politics, which is something I think DA could need,so speak for yourself.
I'm interested in politics, I wish DA had alot more of it... But the whole democracy vs monarchy thing sounds awful to me
Yeah. It just wouldn't seem right when it comes to Thedas and its setting. Need Feudalism and Theocracy.
#187
Posté 19 mai 2013 - 03:45
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Knight of Dane wrote...
That's taste for you.XxDeonxX wrote...
Knight of Dane wrote...
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I'd be very interested to see a political theme in Dragon Age that involved democracy vs. monarchy or something similar.
That sounds extremely awful and uninteresting
You saý a pile of vomit, I say a complete meal.
Ahha, no wonder you have a dog for your avatar. Suddenly, it all makes sense!
#188
Posté 19 mai 2013 - 04:32
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While I'm trying to not sound like a dick, how is this even a discussion? Alister and Anora as King and Queen is by far the best solution. His charisma, kind heart and fighting ability (People always like a warrior king) combined with her ruthlessness and political ability is a great combination. Even better if Alister is hardened, he then takes governing seriously and gets a bit of political know-how and rules jointly with Anora, not just being a figurehead. For those saying that Anora and their warden is the best couple, I would say it wouldn't work seeing as you don't know what your character is like at all beyond what choices he makes.
#189
Posté 19 mai 2013 - 04:38
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Knight of Dane wrote...
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I'd be very interested to see a political theme in Dragon Age that involved democracy vs. monarchy or something similar.
No, just no. That would just make everything...completly and utter crap. Plus is you got in to that rubbish it would just turn the whole series in to some political rubbish Why would you want that anyway? If you want that kind of thing just play Assasins creed 3.
#190
Posté 19 mai 2013 - 04:39
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An corrupted oligarchy against a progressive and charismatic would technically be democracy v. monarchy but flipped on its head, but still out of place for the DA series.
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Posté 19 mai 2013 - 10:29
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I hardened him every time, after I figured out how, and still invented the Kleenex box in my sig specifically for him. Either way, he's not exactly emotionally stable. I tipped my hat to his writer countless times back in the day, for creating a character that could actually get me to despise him as a person.IanPolaris wrote...
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Anora is Ferelden's best bet, with Alistair as a figurehead.
Pretty much, that. In the majority of my games Alistair ended up dead or as a piece of furniture for Anora. Alistair was presented as a weak character from the very beginning, having no desire to rule and always wanting to be a follower.
You must not have hardened him then.
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And I despire Anora (and I think her leadership skills are overrated based on what we see in the game). I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. [I will agree that I wouldn't want an unhardened Alistair anywhere close to the throne either....unless I was a female noble Warden.]
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She might unimpress you, but there is no better candidate outside Eamon. But he let himself get freaking poisoned! She's not the best, but she's Ferelden's best.
Outside the Grey Warden of course, but (s)he is a variable.
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Posté 19 mai 2013 - 10:32
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I'd be very interested to see a political theme in Dragon Age that involved democracy vs. monarchy or something similar.
No, just no. That would just make everything...completly and utter crap. Plus is you got in to that rubbish it would just turn the whole series in to some political rubbish Why would you want that anyway? If you want that kind of thing just play Assasins creed 3.
Politics is what made TW2 interesting; it's what made A Song of Ice and Fire interesting. But BioWare can't do politics, at least, they haven't really tried.
#193
Posté 19 mai 2013 - 10:45
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Hardened Alistair and Anora with my Warden as Chancellor and Alistair's mistress :3
Seriously though because Anora could use a bit reigning in on some subjects and Alistair needs someone who can point out harsh truths. Hardened Alistair and Anora feel like they'd rule well together.
I wouldn't make unhardened Alistair king unless my warden was power hungry.
Seriously though because Anora could use a bit reigning in on some subjects and Alistair needs someone who can point out harsh truths. Hardened Alistair and Anora feel like they'd rule well together.
I wouldn't make unhardened Alistair king unless my warden was power hungry.
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#194
Posté 20 mai 2013 - 12:39
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I hope bioware ditches what the epilogues said, because half the answers are based on them. All ignore what Alistair actually says in the game, and instead look at what Mr. Epilogue says. All i see here is made up reasons to pick what the epilogue said it is best. So i see that Bhelen is better than Harrowmont in the epilogue, and then i make up whatever reason so that my goody warden would pick him no matter what.
Only a few noble souls stick to what is actually shown in the game, and don´t let themselves be influenced by metagaming, or worse, the "i´m not metagaming, my warden just knows the epilogue because i do". I have nothing agaisnt metagaming, but i do have agaisnt metagaming disguissed as not being so.
Alistair makes clear that "I´m not going to roll over and let Anora rule, that´s for sure", and given the animosity with Anora´s father, a struggle for power (unless not hardened) is quite certain. Of course the epilogue don´t say this, so it´s all ignored.
I hate epilogues who ignore the actual game, like Harrowmont being a complete failure when there is nothing in the game that supports that. The epilogue with Harrowmont should be conservative and stagnant, but not a disaster like the epilogue tell us.
Only a few noble souls stick to what is actually shown in the game, and don´t let themselves be influenced by metagaming, or worse, the "i´m not metagaming, my warden just knows the epilogue because i do". I have nothing agaisnt metagaming, but i do have agaisnt metagaming disguissed as not being so.
Alistair makes clear that "I´m not going to roll over and let Anora rule, that´s for sure", and given the animosity with Anora´s father, a struggle for power (unless not hardened) is quite certain. Of course the epilogue don´t say this, so it´s all ignored.
I hate epilogues who ignore the actual game, like Harrowmont being a complete failure when there is nothing in the game that supports that. The epilogue with Harrowmont should be conservative and stagnant, but not a disaster like the epilogue tell us.
Modifié par Mykel54, 20 mai 2013 - 12:40 .
