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[Cainhurst Crow]

StreetMagic wrote...

lol.. so people who leave a religion and refuse the "purpose" pushed on them are now automatically "bandits".

OTOH, that's fair enough. I happen to wish to kill Qunari just for being Qunari. It's only fair if they're just as hostile the other way around.

You don't read peoples post who you disagree with do you?

Vashoth, means gray in qunlat. These are the people who forsake the qun and their role in it, and go off to live their lives the way they see fit. Normal everyday folks who just don't want to be part of the system.

Tal-vashoth, means true gray in qunlat. People who decide that rather than simply leave the qun, they want to violently oppose it, resorting to raiding merchants, killing qunari, and generally acting like bandits.

Please do try to learn the difference between the two.

Modifié par Darth Brotarian, 16 mai 2013 - 09:56 .

[billy the squid]

StreetMagic wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

lol.. so people who leave a religion and refuse the "purpose" pushed on them are now automatically "bandits".

OTOH, that's fair enough. I happen to wish to kill Qunari just for being Qunari. It's only fair if they're just as hostile the other way around.

You don't read peoples post who you disagree with do you?

Sure, I do. Check my post history. So far, I think I've spent my short time at BSN trading arguments with people. That takes an ability to listen to them as well.

When it comes to Qunari lore, I just hate it. I don't merely disagree. It's way beyond that. There's nothing you could do to change that. There's no debate. There's no hope of "bridging any gap". Nothing

Of course, the sooner you realize that, the sooner you can ignore me. Don't cause yourself any stress trying to "get through" to me. It isn't happening.

Lol, you're stupid. And you don't comprehend what you read either.

[Cainhurst Crow]

StreetMagic wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

lol.. so people who leave a religion and refuse the "purpose" pushed on them are now automatically "bandits".

OTOH, that's fair enough. I happen to wish to kill Qunari just for being Qunari. It's only fair if they're just as hostile the other way around.

You don't read peoples post who you disagree with do you?

Sure, I do. Check my post history. So far, I think I've spent my short time at BSN trading arguments with people. That takes an ability to listen to them as well.

When it comes to Qunari lore, I just hate it. I don't merely disagree. It's way beyond that. There's nothing you could do to change that. There's no debate. There's no hope of "bridging any gap". Nothing

Of course, the sooner you realize that, the sooner you can ignore me. Don't cause yourself any stress trying to "get through" to me. It isn't happening.

That is the dumbest stance I've ever heard. So your arguing with people in this thread about the qun but don't actually have any interests in talking about the qun at all or what it merits or downsides are, you just want to take a big **** on it and have no one comment about the big **** you've taken in the middle of a public forum or hear anyone else maybe have a opinion that didn't involving taking a dump on the qunari. Again, in the middle of a public forum that openly invites people to discuss topics in the forums secions very title.

Why don't you just make a "I HATE THE QUN!" group and go the hell away already?

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

This is exactly what I was thinking about yesterday!

Also it seems that the "Qun Mania" is stronger than "Blood Mage Mania" these days!

Modifié par Legatus Arianus, 17 mai 2013 - 04:31 .

[greatcrusader44]

Nothing's more entertaining then seeing armchair philosopher's argue. If only the rest of the world had it figured out as much as them, it would be a perfect place.

[Cainhurst Crow]

StreetMagic wrote...

greatcrusader44 wrote...

Nothing's more entertaining then seeing armchair philosopher's argue. If only the rest of the world had it figured out as much as them, it would be a perfect place.

Kind of a redundant term. Pretty much all philosophers were "armchair".

Maybe Foucault and Aristotle are slight exceptions.

And socrates, despite the stick up his ass when it came to fiction.

[Kidd]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Vashoth, means gray in qunlat. These are the people who forsake the qun and their role in it, and go off to live their lives the way they see fit. Normal everyday folks who just don't want to be part of the system.

Tal-vashoth, means true gray in qunlat. People who decide that rather than simply leave the qun, they want to violently oppose it, resorting to raiding merchants, killing qunari, and generally acting like bandits.

Please do try to learn the difference between the two.

Somehow I had missed this distinction. Thanks for opening my eyes! ^^

Btw, oh Dusk Shine-avatar'd one, have you ever realised how similar Equestrian society is to the Qun due to the cutie marks? Sure, the cutie mark is not assigned by a person like the tamassran, but once a pony finds their cutie mark they stick with their given role. They may change their exact job description, but they will always stay within the role their mark has given them.

[Kidd]

EntropicAngel wrote...

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

Somehow I had missed this distinction. Thanks for opening my eyes! ^^

Btw, oh Dusk Shine-avatar'd one, have you ever realised how similar Equestrian society is to the Qun due to the cutie marks? Sure, the cutie mark is not assigned by a person like the tamassran, but once a pony finds their cutie mark they stick with their given role. They may change their exact job description, but they will always stay within the role their mark has given them.

The most effective distinction is that the cutie mark is something they're both good at and love to do. It's almost willingly that that thing is made their cutie mark. Unlike the Qun where "will" is nowhere near the question.

People tend to enjoy what they're good at. Hence I'm guessing you're probable to at least be able to stand - perhaps even greatly enjoy - whatever role you're assigned =)

[billy the squid]

StreetMagic wrote...

"Lol, you're stupid"?

I'm wounded.

Have you guys honestly never met any hatred about this? You actually think the Qun deserves that much of a free ride? That people are supposed to be as tolerant as you expect? Is this how the Qun gets any followers? Appealing to people's tolerance?

Besides all that, aren't you roleplaying to an extent? Do you really believe everything about the Qun? Or are you in character? What if I'm in character too? If this was Thedas, you'd be hearing simlar things as my posts on a regular basis around most human cultures. Everything the Qun is is an assault on their way of life. Absolutely anathema to their being. There's a reason why there's been so many wars. It's an awful world, full of these type of polarizing differences. If we're all in character, then the last thing you can expect is tolerance. The only thing you should expect is people itching for a fight and who happily embrace the so called "struggle" that Qunari find problematic. We relish in hatred. Get used to it.

If we're not in character, then you're going to have to try a little harder. We don't even know each other. Not sure what being called stupid means from you, if you really mean it.

It wasn't an attempt to wound you, it was a statement of fact, based on observation. 

I'm pointing out your inherrent bias and gaping holes in your accusations, which you seem to disregard, while glossing over a myriad of issues in your own points. 

I'm now picking holes in your position because it's stupid, you're getting criticism because your reasoning is poor. I'm not about to convert you to the Qun, either you see the failure in your arguments or you won't.

[Xilizhra]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

lol.. so people who leave a religion and refuse the "purpose" pushed on them are now automatically "bandits".

OTOH, that's fair enough. I happen to wish to kill Qunari just for being Qunari. It's only fair if they're just as hostile the other way around.

You don't read peoples post who you disagree with do you?

Vashoth, means gray in qunlat. These are the people who forsake the qun and their role in it, and go off to live their lives the way they see fit. Normal everyday folks who just don't want to be part of the system.

Tal-vashoth, means true gray in qunlat. People who decide that rather than simply leave the qun, they want to violently oppose it, resorting to raiding merchants, killing qunari, and generally acting like bandits.

Please do try to learn the difference between the two.

Mercenaries who don't focus their lives on attacking the Qun are also considered Tal-Vashoth; in fact, they're considered even worse, because the bandit ones actually have something of a role as an adversary. The mercenaries have no role at all because they accept pay. In fact, I suspect that anyone who accepts money for work (because it's considered "selling themselves") is considered an honorless pariah who can be killed at will. It's just the mercenaries who are seen as this most often, as soldiers have the most opportunity to leave.