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[Trayno]

I admit I haven't read the whole thread, so I'm just throwing it on the vague assumption nobody thought of the maker the likes of Lisa Simpson when she creates her own little civilization with a tooth and a coke.

They expect her to be almighty because she has created them but, well most people know, she isn't.

My favorite part of this whole episode (which I believe is a Halloween episode) is when they shrink her to their size and expect of her to right all the wrongs in their little world.

You wouldn't be able to just as much as she isn't. So I think we might not expect too much of the Maker. Just because we say he is almighty he doesn't need to be.



Greetings,

Trayno

[addiction21]

Mlai00 wrote...

I'm just beginning to realize that the writers of DAO must all be big fans of Warhammer 40,000.

Who is'nt? Best fantasy world EVAH.

WAGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rythuse]

The mAker is NOT a Mage the chant of light says magic is not meant to rule over man but to serve him unless the maker is a hypocrit

[Rythuse]

The reason no o e thinks the chantry Is right because honestly if u notice at some points there Are very strong yet subtle indications hints and really powerful people saying otherwise also because the chantry abuses there powers with the mages Nd lyruim Templar adiction

[Bryy_Miller]

More like his manhood weighed down by an imaginary anchor.

[Heavensrun]

I think, most likely, the maker is, like most in-game religions, an allegory for real world religious issues. So I don't think you'll see any -actual- confirmation of what the maker is in game. Andraste? Maybe. The black city? Sure. But the Maker will always be some lofty concept that exists beyond the natural world that the games show to us, because even though he's a ficitonal deity, to make a stand on him could be considered making a stand on the topic of God, and that's not something Bioware particularly likes to do. It would be interesting if they did, but that's kinda it.



I think it's actually kindof neat that Bioware always offered a host of possible alternate interpretations for all of the mythology in the game. Like the writings that suggest Andraste was actually just a very powerful mage, or the comments from Oghren about the lyrium concentration in the hall of Sacred Ashes.



To break down my characters' beliefs, My dwarven commoner doesn't believe in any deities, but pays lip service to the beliefs of anybody she meets to get on their good side. My Dalish rogue believes in the elven gods, but doesn't really pay much attention to it. My mage is pretty strongly Aetheist, though he tries to be polite about other people's beliefs, and my Dwarven noble thinks all those humans and elves with their gods should wake the hell up, and see the reason in ancestor worship.



Whenever I do a city elf, I'll probably play them as a Maker-worshipper, just because that's the only type I haven't seen play out. ;p

[HarlequinKing]

Heavensrun wrote...
To break down my characters' beliefs, My dwarven commoner doesn't believe in any deities, but pays lip service to the beliefs of anybody she meets to get on their good side. My Dalish rogue believes in the elven gods, but doesn't really pay much attention to it. My mage is pretty strongly Aetheist, though he tries to be polite about other people's beliefs, and my Dwarven noble thinks all those humans and elves with their gods should wake the hell up, and see the reason in ancestor worship.

Whenever I do a city elf, I'll probably play them as a Maker-worshipper, just because that's the only type I haven't seen play out. ;p

I've been playing a dwarf noble who's actually quite a devout Andrastian.

But your points on nothing about religion in DA being "definitive" are right-on. Pretty much all the religions and beliefs in DA have real-world counterparts. Having BioWare obviously say that one is true or false would cause some problems, and just take some of the fun out of it, anyway.

[Rythuse]

My personal beleive is that all the religons are true or at one point true but inperticar to the maker I beleive the maker was simply the first thi g that came into existance after all that time he would have developed power beyong comphrehension and the mages who went into the city are the first darkspawn but not becaus of sin the old gods are makers children and being that the mKer was not powerful enogh to master creating powerful beings they turned evil an don't have a phsical form but take over the bodies of high dragons kind of like how demons posses people once the remaining arch demons are dead then the darkspawn will be no more but with one of the endings that could be intergrated into later plot and that's it for now I'm tired

[Rythuse]

Oh ya and I could be wrong but I think at so e point I. History the maker was actually followed U

in rl but I could be wrong

[Topher87]

Hmm, well, the Old (False) Gods were supposedly worshiped by Tevinter Imperium, not sure for how long, but I guess quite a while. No idea why the Maker didn't act immidetly, I know I'd be pretty pissed if someone claimed to be God when they're clearly not.

Anyway, perhaps the Maker is, as some say, a really powerful mage who just got fed up with the Old Gods and decided to take the power of the Fade for himself and send them south. Way south.

Of course that leaves another billion questions to be answered.. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.

[Excorant]

desmod wrote...

Chances are the maker is real. Eventually when bioware want to make some more dlc content or maybe expansion they would add him in. Answer me this question what kind of expansion would have better story, One where you killed thousands of creature to find out their is no maker or one which you fight million of monster in order to stop an evil creature from stealing his power and using it to destroy the world. In which after you save him you can choose to either kill him take his power or let him live. Pick one.

Thats quite similar to Baldurs Gate series... or Legacy of Kain. Actually, in all RPGs I remember the praised god or gods existed (or there was no evidence they dont exist) and in lots of those games they made appearance. I think it would be interesting change if in some game the god shows to be just a legend that doesnt exist at all. It will add something new.

[SacremPyroblum]

Why not you are given some of his powers and made into a sort or demigod. It might break the game but it woulb be epic.

[_Aine_]

The Maker is clearly Bioware. Without Bioware Ferelden as we know it would cease to exist... that or the Maker is a convenient scapegoat for religious intolerance everywhere. One of those anyway.

[Frozeal]

SacremPyroblum wrote...

The Maker is the supposed God of the world of Dragon Age.  However, is it not possible to be a sort of powerful mage that has prolonged his life through rituals unknown.  Think of it like the Emperor of Mankind (Warhammer 40k).  But what do you think?
Please write your opinion and why you think said opinion.
Cheers

Maker = Non existant or a very powerful mage.
Andraste for sure is a very powerful mage. Check in the search for the true prophet, a book that is found somewhere I don't remember.

P.S.: There's no god.

[Rythuse]

all the gods in all the religons are the same besides dwarfs who ever said the thing a out the trickster god is on the right track

[Frozeal]

desmod wrote...

In order to get to the truly right track we need to think like a bioware writer. What kind of story would make people play more.

Bisexual assasin elves with spanish accent...

[steelfire_dragon]

zoodiacz wrote...

To stones with your sodding Maker.
Embrace the stone and Paragons!!!

and may the stone take their maker and poot him out the other end

Modifié par steelfire_dragon, 17 janvier 2010 - 03:10 .

[Topher87]

desmod wrote...

In order to get to the truly right track we need to think like a bioware writer. What kind of story would make people play more.

Well, they're not going to tell us who, or what, the maker is. That's for sure. Tbh, I doubt they have put that much work on the Maker, they just need him the make the game more.. mysterious.

[Bere27]

I think it more likely that the Maker is just an immensely powerful Benevolent spirit of the Fade, maybe Faith?

[Rugerious]

So if you were to take 2 sets of ashes and ate one do you think youd see things? I have several multibelief characters. One i personally made believes andraste was high on lyrium.

Modifié par Rugerious, 17 janvier 2010 - 03:13 .