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[EpicBoot2daFace]

I'm curious how many players on BSN choose the "Ruthless" background for their Shepard. How does your Shepard view the events on Torfan? Is he/she a killer, or was there another motive behind the brutality? I like the idea of the Ruthless background (especially if you're a Colonist) but I found it very difficult to connect with somebody who kills unarmed prisoners.

This is something my Shepard might do by the time I get to ME3 when he's sort of losing it, but not right away and certainly not before the events of ME1. That said, I truly love the idea of the Colonist who's family is slaughtered by batarian slavers. He/she joins the Alliance and is able to get revenge on Torfan, if you want to call it that. It also gives Shepard a personal motive for joining the Alliance.

Now, to my next question. Is it just me or does the default FemShep model look like she was born to wear these scars? "You want to know how I got these scars?" --- sorry. I couldn'r resist. I'm aware that there a lot of people out there who play a paragon (or paragade) MaleShep and then play a renegade FemShep. That said, do you think FemShep was designed by BioWare to be the renegade playthrough for many players or do you think I'm looking too much into this?

Anyway, I would really like to hear your thoughts.

[thejake1453]

I'm one of those people who play (In this is in pretty much ALL of biowares games) a Paragon Male (because I project myself) and then go an play a Renegade/Ruthless female (Because I think its hot).

But to answer your question, does it look like she was born to wear those scars?
Well, I find the Shep in that picture daaaamn fine, Was she intentionally meant to be a renegade?
No clue, but I like to think so.

[NeroonWilliams]

My favorite Ruthless Shepard, I played as an almost straight Paragon. He had a murderous temper though. That was why he snapped at Torfan. And that led to many NPCs getting killed along the way.

[Exile Isan]

My main Shepard has the Ruthless background, but she's a paragade. She also has the Colonist background, so what happened at Torfan was her flipping her wig and revenge killing a bunch of Batarians for killing her family and friends. She regrets it though and tries to not let her hatred of slavers get the better of her, she doesn't always succeed (Terra Nova). It's fun to roleplay it way, that the entire galaxy misunderstands what exactly happened at Torfan. Only a handful of people know the truth Garrus- her lover, Tali- her best friend, and Anderson. But revenge was not on her mind when she joined the Alliance, she had intended to join the Alliance anyway (she's a biotic plus her father was ex-military). She joined the Alliace to escape... it's a long story.

I like to think that Torfan is only part of the reason she is known as 'ruthless', though. Part of it has to do with fighting style being a vanguard she's extremely agressive in combat (charge + shotguns with occasional biotic punch). Plus once the fighting starts she is a brutal take no prisoners type person, but she will try her best to avoid fights unless she knows it's inevitable (Kaira Stirling, Weyrloc clan speaker).

Modifié par Exile Isan, 15 mai 2013 - 02:57 .

[game-zerox]

I made a paragade colonist/ruthless maleshep. I might just say he saw Torfan as the time he avenged his colony, but I'd rather say that's when he learned his anger costed him so many lives and had to move on, to use violence only as a second resort and to be more acceptable to aliens.

As for the whole scar thing, am I missing the point where these scar were made in me2 and default Femshep was remodeled in me3?

Edit: Well, Exile Isan said it way better than I could explain it.

Modifié par game-zerox, 15 mai 2013 - 03:10 .

[The Night Mammoth]

Revenge, mostly. She hates criminals, and slavers in particular, and couple that with finding out that the raiders at Torfan were the same ones who killed her friends on Mindoir, and forced her to do bad things to defend Elysium, the cold and detached persona she puts on completely broke, and all the feeling she usually internalized came out in a flood of just rage.

Still, she got the job done. Those who survived respected her for getting them out alive as best she could, whilst the Admirals fear and hate her for the influence it's given her over the grunts and lower officers, and the plans she destroyed by surviving and winning.

The scars are a symbol of all the rage burning under the surface, and I think they look damn cool.

[GreyLycanTrope]

Well I gave my ruthless femshep the earthborn background, so I always played it as something that she did as result of having to largely look out for herself growing up. She felt the best way to do that is to minimize risk, even if they're not considered proper by the rest of society. I imagine she was the sort of person who stole and employed violence as needed to survive and navigate the various gangs safely, it's also why she joined the 10th Street Reds, no because they were friends she trusted but because she had to pick a side and somehow survive.

So she largely considered her crew a means to an end and felt mercy was a luxury she couldn't afford. Hence she put her team through the meat grinder and executed prisoners on Torfan to send a warning to the other Batarians considering raiding human worlds. As the events of the series unfolded specifically during her hunt for Saren, she learned to trust and rely on her crew and largely developed a soft spot for them which later turned into genuine bonds of frienship. This led her to somewhat soften up her approach occasionally (basically she started out renegade and ended up a renegon) even if her social manners can still be crude and impolite. She also doesn't care for people wasting her time or threatening her, so she shot Finch, and still isn't big on taking risks with former enemies, meaning she Destroyed the Geth Heretics.

[EpicBoot2daFace]

I thought it was interesting for a Colonist/Ruthless Shepard in the Terra Nova situation. Would she let Balak go to save the hostages or feel the hostages were expendable and put that batarian bastard down for good?

[Exile Isan]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

I thought it was interesting for a Colonist/Ruthless Shepard in the Terra Nova situation. Would she let Balak go to save the hostages or feel the hostages were expendable and put that batarian bastard down for good?

Well, for my Shepard, Sara, it was a less epic repeat of Torfan. Sara's always had a problem with anger since Mindior and when she encounters Charn and finds out this was supposed to be "a quick slave grab for a little profit" she pretty much goes ballistic and kills him. I love the dialog when you do this too. "That's reason enough for me." Or something to that effect.

Although, I will say that she managed to restrain herself enough to not kill Balak, she did shoot him though and turned him over to the Alliance. (I have slight metagame reason for this now, although this has almost alway been my outcome to this quest, as I like the confrontation between Balak and Shepard in ME3 "I'd rather you put a bullet in his head, but we're all making some sacrifices today.").

[Ecrulis]

For my main shepard (Colonist/Ruthless) the events on Mindoir scarred her deeply, and sort of desensitized her to loss, that translated to getting the job done no matter the cost when she joined the alliance, throw in the circumstances in Torfin and she was going to kill those bastards no matter what and damn the consequences. Through the the three games she moves between paragade and renagon depending (ME2 is a low point for her so she's pretty ruthlessly renagon there).

In terms of Terra Nova, well what's more important? Saving a handfull of scientists thus allowing a dangerous terrorist like Balak to roam free possibly killing and enslaving many, many more? or sacrifice the scientists thus possibly saving countless lives by keeping Balak behind bars? It was a no brainer for my shep and the scientists died.

[Display Name Owner]

I think Colonist + Ruthless is the most interesting combination of backgrounds for Shep. It would have been great to encounter more Batarians just to explore that background. I never got Bring Down the Sky because for some reason I can't remember the details of I couldn't get the download to work, but I'm sure that would have been good with the background.

[Ecrulis]

isnudo wrote...

I think Colonist + Ruthless is the most interesting combination of backgrounds for Shep. It would have been great to encounter more Batarians just to explore that background. I never got Bring Down the Sky because for some reason I can't remember the details of I couldn't get the download to work, but I'm sure that would have been good with the background.

Agreed, it's easily my favorite background, and try searching Bring Down The Sky torturing Balak before handing him over to the alliance is totally worth it.

[Lost Mercenary]

My Ruthless ManShep is actually a Spacer. I like to imagine he has some severe mummy issues and is taking it out on the rest of the galaxy like an angst up whiny teenager, For the lolz.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Alana is a Ruthless Colonist. By the time she was recruited as part of the Normandy SR1 crew, she swore to make up for her dark past by doing good deeds. She's a full Paragon with a violent, tragic past. She's an atoner.

[GHNR]

For my Shepard, it was mainly a combination of his rage over losing so many men due to the mission, taunts from the batarians, and anger that his men risked the mission to take prisoners. Thus, not wanting to allow the scum to survive, and wanting to ensure they would never threaten the Alliance again, he mercilessly executed.

[drwells123]

Somehow I've never seen the ME3 default Femshep with the scars. I have to say, they look damn good on her. I used to think they were ugly, but they've grown on me to the point where I changed the coalesced.ini file to give my FemShep the maxed-out scars no matter how paragon she is.

The Terminator eyes don't do anything for me, but red irises (like this) do.

[EarthboundNess]

I'm not sure why, but a large number of my characters have the ruthless background, yet none are actually renegade. I think I must have planned to do more renegade playthroughs, and then found myself unable to do the actual renegade actions when it comes down to it.

I agree that she rocks those scars though.

[BronzTrooper]

All of my Renegade Shepards have the Ruthless background. Plus, my first Vanguard (Paragon).

My Renegade Shepards see the events on Torfan as absolutely necessary.

My Vanguard regrets his actions on Torfan. He lost it and realized after the fact that he needs to control himself around Batarians (he grew up on Mindoir. That should explain how he lost it in the first place).

[Mcfly616]

I usually project myself into the game as Shepard. I make choices that I would actually make in his shoes. I am Shepard.

However, there are playthroughs where I strictly roleplay. My first ever FemShep was a Ruthless/Colonist. However she was a Paragade (75% paragon, 25% renegade). She rationalized that what she did on Torfin was a necessary response for what happened on Elysium, but her actions were also fueled by what happened to her parents during her childhood. This was actually one of my more enjoyable playthroughs.

[Heather-Shepard]

I did one playthrough where I left my scars unhealed, and I happened to be the ruthless background.  It does seem fitting for a renegade personality.  I loved the way the unhealed renegade scars looked too

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

I have a Colonist/Ruthless background Shepard. She had so much money left at the end of ME2 she had the scars healed before LotSB. I don't know if the default femShep model fits well with this model. I did a little write up about Torfan. She took quite a bit of revenge out there. I had the Batarian Captain on Torfan be one of the Batarian Sgts. on Mindoir, just to add a little flavor. Once Shepard heard the Captain's name it gave her a little more "incentive" to push her squad forward. The mission just got personal. I'll let you guess what happened. It ends with Shepard doing an unflinching walk after some brutal interrogation. There was an inquest afterward. Not a single member of her squad testified against her and she was cleared.

She played mumbly peg with Balak but kept hitting him, then turned him over to the Alliance for further interrogation, and hopefully imprisonment. But the weak kneed ones cut a deal, probably to get an operative held in Batarian space freed. You know how things go.

Ended up 70% Renegade 30% Paragon. She picked Destroy.

[EpicBoot2daFace]

nemesisdivina-vow wrote...

I did one playthrough where I left my scars unhealed, and I happened to be the ruthless background.  It does seem fitting for a renegade personality.  I loved the way the unhealed renegade scars looked too

That image makes me really want a new Terminator game. You know, one that's good.

[Brako Version 5.0]

I play as neither renegade or female. Too much extra gaming to be had when your a good guy.

[Morlath]

I for one find the combination in the OP hotter than hell.

[Fixers0]

Somewhat offtopic, but i prefer the ME1 style scars.