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Morlath wrote...

I for one find the combination in the OP hotter than hell.

I just wish I could use that model in ME1 and ME2.

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EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Morlath wrote...

I for one find the combination in the OP hotter than hell.

I just wish I could use that model in ME1 and ME2.


I was very annoyed at not being allowed to have scars on my paragon Shep. The guy carried his with honour throughout ME1 and then had to do a total 180 spin on his personality in order to get them back....

My renegade Shep was delighted that they glowed in the dark and she could now scare the crap out of people with her eyes.

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I think default Sheploo was born to wear those renegade scars. The renegade scars look by far the best on him.

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That said, my first and main Shepard was also a Colonist Ruthless Shepard and obviously a Renegade. It's fun to play Colonist/Ruthless and it makes sense. It's as if Colonist and Ruthless are meant to be chosen together, although Colonist/War Hero also works well together if you want to play a Paragon Shepard. But I think Paragon is lame, so I went with Colonist/Ruthless and and chose to play (mostly) Renegade.

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With my current Renegade Shepard, I had him be Earthborn, Ruthless. In ME1, I put the scar that goes from the back of the left cheek and comes over the left side of the mouth. The more I play him in ME2, the more I notice that same scar starting to reappear. Has anyone had something similar happen?

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Gamer072196 wrote...

With my current Renegade Shepard, I had him be Earthborn, Ruthless. In ME1, I put the scar that goes from the back of the left cheek and comes over the left side of the mouth. The more I play him in ME2, the more I notice that same scar starting to reappear. Has anyone had something similar happen?

I don't think that's possible.

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EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Gamer072196 wrote...

With my current Renegade Shepard, I had him be Earthborn, Ruthless. In ME1, I put the scar that goes from the back of the left cheek and comes over the left side of the mouth. The more I play him in ME2, the more I notice that same scar starting to reappear. Has anyone had something similar happen?

I don't think that's possible.

Well, it's happening with my Shepard.  Idk why though. :huh:

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My shep was a ruthless spacer. I got the idea from the fact that the event which launched shepards military career happened so early:

I played my Shep as a military brat who dreamed of living up to the hero ideal she created out of her parents, with a rather shallow idea of morality and viewing the world in strict black and white. When she enlisted she was eager to make a name for herself, thus leading to the event on Torfan--in which she "removed an evil group of people". The repurcussions that followed, both the military promotion and the hate from peace groups-- were a real eye-opener to her world-view and perspective on both people and their motivations as well as grey morality. She spent the rest of her military career trying to make amends for this but still played the hero, indulging in the specter fame and her image as the savior of the galaxy. Her regrets though were ultimately what lead to her success however, as it lead her to spare the rachni, preserve Malon's research, strive for compromise and of course get so close to a certain Turian sniper. :)

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I just want to add some thoughts from a military perspective, which might be helpful. You're not actually required to accept an offer of surrender unless the enemy both (a) surrenders in a timely fashion (i.e. before the shooting starts) and (B) you have the capability to take them prisoner.

What this means is that during an intense firefight, when you might not be able to slow down the tempo of your attack or divert soldiers from assaulting to prisoner handling, you are perfectly entitled to shoot enemy soldiers that attempt to surrender. So your ruthless Femshep doesn't have to be a murderer, she just needs to be a cold bitch when the mission is at stake.

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Well I gave my ruthless femshep the earthborn background, so I always played it as something that she did as result of having to largely look out for herself growing up. She felt the best way to do that is to minimize risk, even if they're not considered proper by the rest of society. I imagine she was the sort of person who stole and employed violence as needed to survive and navigate the various gangs safely, it's also why she joined the 10th Street Reds, no because they were friends she trusted but because she had to pick a side and somehow survive.

So she largely considered her crew a means to an end and felt mercy was a luxury she couldn't afford. Hence she put her team through the meat grinder and executed prisoners on Torfan to send a warning to the other Batarians considering raiding human worlds. As the events of the series unfolded specifically during her hunt for Saren, she learned to trust and rely on her crew and largely developed a soft spot for them which later turned into genuine bonds of frienship. This led her to somewhat soften up her approach occasionally (basically she started out renegade and ended up a renegon) even if her social manners can still be crude and impolite. She also doesn't care for people wasting her time or threatening her, so she shot Finch, and still isn't big on taking risks with former enemies, meaning she Destroyed the Geth Heretics.


this is almost word for word exactly the same as my ruthless femshep. Only mine ended up more paragade than renegon. "Love softened her steely heart" you might say... And she did have manners - just a zero tolerance for bs... hence she too shot Fist and Destroyed Heretics. But Helena Blake got to walk, with a threat of course - since she didn't give my Ariana any bs or attitude. Balak survived too, but Charn did not... not sure why... terrorist vs slaver... i guess a terrorist has some sort of reason for his actions besides plain ol' greed, making him ever-so-fractionally less hateable. 

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devilsgrin wrote...

Balak survived too, but Charn did not... not sure why... terrorist vs slaver... i guess a terrorist has some sort of reason for his actions besides plain ol' greed, making him ever-so-fractionally less hateable. 


Wait, you think that trafficking people is worse than murdering 4.4 million?

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Gamer072196 wrote...

Well, it's happening with my Shepard.  Idk why though. :huh:

Have you tried healing the scars? Maybe what you're seeing is the red scarring starting to appear and it just looks like the original scar to some extent. To the best of my knowledge, normal scars (like in ME1) were removed in the newer games.

Morlath wrote...

I was very annoyed at not being allowed
to have scars on my paragon Shep. The guy carried his with honour
throughout ME1 and then had to do a total 180 spin on his personality in
order to get them back....

My renegade Shep was delighted that they glowed in the dark and she could now scare the crap out of people with her eyes.

It would have been cool to have Shepard  (or the player) actually react to the scarring when they looked in the mirror or something. As it is now, Shepard and everyone else just don't seem to notice or care.

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EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

It would have been cool to have Shepard  (or the player) actually react to the scarring when they looked in the mirror or something. As it is now, Shepard and everyone else just don't seem to notice or care.


There's a line in Citadel DLC about the scars and it's commented on how people are used to cybernetics (so regardless of never seeing anyone with those scars in-game people are supposed to know what they mean).

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Morlath wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

It would have been cool to have Shepard  (or the player) actually react to the scarring when they looked in the mirror or something. As it is now, Shepard and everyone else just don't seem to notice or care.


There's a line in Citadel DLC about the scars and it's commented on how people are used to cybernetics (so regardless of never seeing anyone with those scars in-game people are supposed to know what they mean).

Well, at least that's something. Is it Shepard who talks about it or someone from the crew?

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EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Well, at least that's something. Is it Shepard who talks about it or someone from the crew?


It's the scene with Brooks on the (red?) carpet at the casino. If I remember rightly Shepard asks about the scars with his/her clothing and that's when the crewmember mentions the cybernetics and Brooks makes a stupid comment on how everyone will be looking at the scars and not her.

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Morlath wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Well, at least that's something. Is it Shepard who talks about it or someone from the crew?


It's the scene with Brooks on the (red?) carpet at the casino. If I remember rightly Shepard asks about the scars with his/her clothing and that's when the crewmember mentions the cybernetics and Brooks makes a stupid comment on how everyone will be looking at the scars and not her.

Heh. That's great. :lol:

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devilsgrin wrote...

Balak survived too, but Charn did not... not sure why... terrorist vs slaver... i guess a terrorist has some sort of reason for his actions besides plain ol' greed, making him ever-so-fractionally less hateable. 


Wait, you think that trafficking people is worse than murdering 4.4 million?


fractionally so yes... in this instance, the murder would be far more merciful than being taken as a slave

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devilsgrin wrote...

fractionally so yes... in this instance, the murder would be far more merciful than being taken as a slave


That can't be true, since the victims generally chose slavery over death. They must have felt being alive as a slave, with a chance of escape or liberation, was better than being dead, no?

Charn's bad but Balak is much worse. I can understand some reasons for letting Balak escape, but letting him go on ethical grounds is really startling to me.

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EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Gamer072196 wrote...

Well, it's happening with my Shepard.  Idk why though. :huh:

Have you tried healing the scars? Maybe what you're seeing is the red scarring starting to appear and it just looks like the original scar to some extent. To the best of my knowledge, normal scars (like in ME1) were removed in the newer games.


I never heal the scars with my Renegades.  I'm seeing the part of the scar that crossed the lips.  Not the part that goes across the cheek.  And no, it isn't glowing.

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Gamer072196 wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Gamer072196 wrote...

Well, it's happening with my Shepard.  Idk why though. :huh:

Have you tried healing the scars? Maybe what you're seeing is the red scarring starting to appear and it just looks like the original scar to some extent. To the best of my knowledge, normal scars (like in ME1) were removed in the newer games.


I never heal the scars with my Renegades.  I'm seeing the part of the scar that crossed the lips.  Not the part that goes across the cheek.  And no, it isn't glowing.

Well, that's certainly weird. I don't know what to tell ya. :huh:

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I chose one of my Shepard's as a renegade ruthless femshep. She was a lot of fun to play. I made her a colonist and sort of envisioned her as having a conventional arc from being victim of batarians to the Butcher of Torfan and a brutal Spectre.

The scars were cool but after a while they become so pronounced I figured like she'd want her old face back. There's a certain point where you get far enough along the renegade meter that the scars begin to shift from badass to kinda grotesque looking. And going on dates or having romantic moments with them started feel a little weird.

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Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

I chose one of my Shepard's as a renegade ruthless femshep. She was a lot of fun to play. I made her a colonist and sort of envisioned her as having a conventional arc from being victim of batarians to the Butcher of Torfan and a brutal Spectre.

The scars were cool but after a while they become so pronounced I figured like she'd want her old face back. There's a certain point where you get far enough along the renegade meter that the scars begin to shift from badass to kinda grotesque looking. And going on dates or having romantic moments with them started feel a little weird.

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Yeah, it starts to become a little too much.

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Yeah, I had one of those in one play through. Irina. Irina Shepard. Earthborn Ruthless. I called her "The Terminator".

Jack: What should we do with him?
Irina: Kill him. You're a killer, Jack. That's what killers do.

The way Hale said that line was chilling. So cold. Irina stood there looking down at Jack, eyes glowing bright red, the scars on her face were grotesque. The renegade bar full. The paragon bar at the unavoidable 15%. It was the one and only time I got the renegade line in LotSB w/ Vasir holding the hostage.

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sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Yeah, I had one of those in one play through. Irina. Irina Shepard. Earthborn Ruthless. I called her "The Terminator".

Jack: What should we do with him?
Irina: Kill him. You're a killer, Jack. That's what killers do.

The way Hale said that line was chilling. So cold. Irina stood there looking down at Jack, eyes glowing bright red, the scars on her face were grotesque. The renegade bar full. The paragon bar at the unavoidable 15%. It was the one and only time I got the renegade line in LotSB w/ Vasir holding the hostage.

I never got that renegade option. What happens?

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EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Yeah, I had one of those in one play through. Irina. Irina Shepard. Earthborn Ruthless. I called her "The Terminator".

Jack: What should we do with him?
Irina: Kill him. You're a killer, Jack. That's what killers do.

The way Hale said that line was chilling. So cold. Irina stood there looking down at Jack, eyes glowing bright red, the scars on her face were grotesque. The renegade bar full. The paragon bar at the unavoidable 15%. It was the one and only time I got the renegade line in LotSB w/ Vasir holding the hostage.

I never got that renegade option. What happens?


This.

http://youtu.be/eWZuGQI_PGA?t=2m36s

I still like the straight renegade non-conversation option best.

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