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Cassandra, one of the main villains?


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 I had been wondering for an while, but do you think Cassandra and her Seekers might be one of the imposing forces in Inquisition? After seeing what she is trying to do in DA 2 and remembering Morrigan words in Witch hunt:

"Change will come to the world, but some will not accept this change, and will fight it with every fiber of their being"

Makes me wonder if she was refering to people such as Cassandra, who can't accept the world is changing, and if your character is someone who approves of change, will end up clashing with her one way or another.

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It's possible, but early concept art relating to the customisation and companion armour systems seemed to suggest she's a party member.

We could still clash with her, particularly if companions react badly to certain player choices like in previous games, but I highly doubt she'll be a main villain in DA3.

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Yeah, I think it's more likely that she'll be a companion, rather than a villain.

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I doubt I'd want the sort of change that Morrigan would support and Cassandra opposes.  So I'm not sure why that would make her a villain.

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Would be fun if she was sort of the "Loghain" of Inqusition. Clash with her a few times, not necessarily as enemies, but then near the end choose against either war side and gain her as a companion instead of the two chaps on your team that wanted you to aid their side.

Or something..

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Cassandra is one three known badass heroes in the world (Hero of Fereldan, Champion of Kirlwall, and Cassandra hero of Orlais). She's no villain. Even if she was, she's no mere Loghain either. I can't think of anyone else who's taken out a few high dragons at once.

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Hum, this is even more interesting. I could see as an possible plot you starting as an Seeker trying to put an end to the mage/templar war, but as the game goes on, you can choose to support one of the factions to wipe out the other, and Cassandra would either confront you for it and fight to the death, or join you if you managed to gain her trust during the game, or you could just go for the compromise ending were she joins you instantly.

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StreetMagic wrote...

Cassandra is one three known badass heroes in the world (Hero of Fereldan, Champion of Kirlwall, and Cassandra hero of Orlais). She's no villain. Even if she was, she's no mere Loghain either. I can't think of anyone else who's taken out a few high dragons at once.

I'm not going to put too much into that until the High Dragons are actually challanging in-game too. The High Dragon in Origins was extremely squishy.

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I mean, by now you should know the primary function of beautiful women in Bioware games...You think they will let such a beauty be out of the promiscuous protagonist's reach?



Alright, I'm just kidding. Don't sent me to The Aeonar, please, mercy!!

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Knight of Dane wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Cassandra is one three known badass heroes in the world (Hero of Fereldan, Champion of Kirlwall, and Cassandra hero of Orlais). She's no villain. Even if she was, she's no mere Loghain either. I can't think of anyone else who's taken out a few high dragons at once.

I'm not going to put too much into that until the High Dragons are actually challanging in-game too. The High Dragon in Origins was extremely squishy.


You're better at these games than I am then. They get easy for me by Awakenings, otherwise they're pretty tough fights.

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If I have to guess I would say party member but villain might be interesting.

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StreetMagic wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Cassandra is one three known badass heroes in the world (Hero of Fereldan, Champion of Kirlwall, and Cassandra hero of Orlais). She's no villain. Even if she was, she's no mere Loghain either. I can't think of anyone else who's taken out a few high dragons at once.

I'm not going to put too much into that until the High Dragons are actually challanging in-game too. The High Dragon in Origins was extremely squishy.


You're better at these games than I am then. They get easy for me by Awakenings, otherwise they're pretty tough fights.

I've also played the game a lot. But I still won against it without a reload on my Solo Dog playthrough. :lol:

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Aolbain wrote...

If I have to guess I would say party member but villain might be interesting.

Not to mention the big epic laugh I'll get out of it :innocent:

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She's not the ideal type of character to shape into a villain, I'll say that. She's a moderate in the Chantry. She's not like Meredith, or any of the extremist Templars in her film. She's not overly welcoming to mages either, but she'll work with them. She's basically a tougher warrior version of Leliana (without the personal vision stuff). Unless she ends up crazy by touching a "lyrium idol", I don't see what the big threat is. Unless you're one of those people who bring all of your neuroses about religion into the game and hate Chantry video game characters vicariously, then I don't see what kind of villainy is supposedly is lurking in the shadows.

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I have a relly hard time picturing what Cassandra´s role may be in DA3. It would be really boring if she went the same path as Meredith however, so I really hope she´ll be a companion.

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It'll be interesting either way. So...angry sex with the Cassandra villain, was that what you were thinking? I'm ok with that...but really, I would rather have one game, just one game that doesn't go too deep into romances and sex...I always find it difficult to imagine Commander Shepard lying in bed naked with a Turian while the Reapers are harvesting humans on Earth by the billions lol

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She really doesn't hit me as villain material.

Leliana and her have always given me a 'good cop bad cop' vibe, but never Cassandra being a flat out big bad.

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Heh heh.

I was totally wrong about this Thread's subject.

I'll go now...

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StreetMagic wrote...

She's not the ideal type of character to shape into a villain, I'll say that. She's a moderate in the Chantry. She's not like Meredith, or any of the extremist Templars in her film.

She hates mages.

StreetMagic wrote...
She's not overly welcoming to mages either, but she'll work with them. She's basically a tougher warrior version of Leliana (without the personal vision stuff).

Sounds like a perfect description of Meredith to me.

StreetMagic wrote...
Unless she ends up crazy by touching a "lyrium idol", I don't see what the big threat is. Unless you're one of those people who bring all of your neuroses about religion into the game and hate Chantry video game characters vicariously, then I don't see what kind of villainy is supposedly is lurking in the shadows.

She doesn't have to be evil to be a villain. Wynne is not evil, but she's a villain if you try to purge the circle tower.
Anyway, not important to me. I'd rather not see her at all. :)

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Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

Heh heh.

I was totally wrong about this Thread's subject.

I'll go now...


Lol I thought the same thing when I saw the title :P

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Knight of Dane wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

She's
not the ideal type of character to shape into a villain, I'll say that.
She's a moderate in the Chantry. She's not like Meredith, or any of the
extremist Templars in her film.


She hates mages.


What do you mean? Is there something I missed in the game and movie? Afaik, she doesn't hate mages any more than the usual. i.e. Blood mages.

Sounds like a perfect description of Meredith to me.


I guess the conversation is over if your imagination has already gone that far. Cutting to the chase and revealing you're not interested in talking about anything to do with these games at all. I guess that works too.

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Knight of Dane wrote...

She hates mages.


Cassandra hate was about revenge, not fear or religion.

She hated mages for the same reason some people hate an entire races because one of them killed a family member. Also, she grew out of that hate in DotS. The movie was Cassandra undergoing a catharsis (and showing how badass she was).

She was rather pro-mages in the movie actually (even suggesting that powerful mages should be in charge of the circle).

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SergeantSnookie wrote...

She really doesn't hit me as villain material.

Leliana and her have always given me a 'good cop bad cop' vibe, but never Cassandra being a flat out big bad.


Yeah, nice analogy. 

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azarhal wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

She hates mages.


Cassandra hate was about revenge, not fear or religion.

She hated mages for the same reason some people hate an entire races because one of them killed a family member. Also, she grew out of that hate in DotS. The movie was Cassandra undergoing a catharsis (and showing how badass she was).

She was rather pro-mages in the movie actually (even suggesting that powerful mages should be in charge of the circle).

I know, but hate is hate.
I also know she got over it, mostly.

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StreetMagic wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

She's
not the ideal type of character to shape into a villain, I'll say that.
She's a moderate in the Chantry. She's not like Meredith, or any of the
extremist Templars in her film.


She hates mages.


What do you mean? Is there something I missed in the game and movie? Afaik, she doesn't hate mages any more than the usual. i.e. Blood mages.

Sounds like a perfect description of Meredith to me.


I guess the conversation is over if your imagination has already gone that far. Cutting to the chase and revealing you're not interested in talking about anything to do with these games at all. I guess that works too.

Huh?