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I have serious doubts they will include any of the Inhuman stuff they are doing in AoS into the movies. If that's the case, then the powers they are showing Sky and the others in China having seem silly.

 

Actually, I think that Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s season 3 will actually pave the way for Civil War. And the avengers will probably know by Avengers 3 that Coulson is alive.


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This show has become one of the better CB shows on the air right now. It's too bad its' getting low ratings. I'd like a season 4 if its possible. 



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This show has become one of the better CB shows on the air right now. It's too bad its' getting low ratings. I'd like a season 4 if its possible.


It'll probably happen for syndication purposes now that Season 3 has been confirmed.

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Just saw last nights finale and talk about laying the foundation for the future MCU, how they'll so Inhumans has been a mystery but that ending makes it seem like they'll go the route of the current Inhamans book where random people across the world become infected and that causes the more prominent Inhamans to get involved and reveal themselves

Would be a cool route to go if I say so. My anticipation for Season 3 is peaked

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It'll probably happen for syndication purposes now that Season 3 has been confirmed.

 

I don't know. Whedon shows aren't known for their longevity.   ;)



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I don't know. Whedon shows aren't known for their longevity.   ;)

 

This one has the benefit of being under the Disney umbrella, airing on a Disney-owned network.



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Actually, I think that Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s season 3 will actually pave the way for Civil War. And the avengers will probably know by Avengers 3 that Coulson is alive.

The whole Fish Oil scene was a little ridiculous. If that's honestly how they will spread the Inhumans, that's some shoddy logic.

I just have trouble believing Marvel will truly incorporate any large stories or characters from a TV show into their movie universe. It just doesn't fit well.

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The whole Fish Oil scene was a little ridiculous. If that's honestly how they will spread the Inhumans, that's some shoddy logic.

I just have trouble believing Marvel will truly incorporate any large stories or characters from a TH show into their movie universe. It just doesn't fit well.

 

Well, You're wrong. No offense here. But, The defenders is a big story arch that Marvel started with Daredevil. Things are just progressing for now. It's just that before any material can have a direct effect on the whole continuity, Its identity needs to be defined first. As for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Pretty sure Coulson secretly had a big part in Age of Ultron. Haven't seen it yet, But, He was the brains behind Theta protocol and he was the one who got Strcuker's location and forwarded it to Fury to give it to the avengers. He couldn't do it himself because they think he's dead. As for how the inhumans will spread, It's still just a tease so far, We don't know anything yet. The point is, It doesn't work that way. TV Shows and Movies are parts of the same continuity and they can both influence each others as the continuity demands. Forced crossovers to me are just creative disasters.



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Infinity War will probably feature everyone, and I mean...

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Infinity War will probably feature everyone, and I mean...

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Actually, Josh Brolin said that exact same line in an interview a couple of months ago. :D



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Well, You're wrong. No offense here. But, The defenders is a big story arch that Marvel started with Daredevil. Things are just progressing for now. It's just that before any material can have a direct effect on the whole continuity, Its identity needs to be defined first. As for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Pretty sure Coulson secretly had a big part in Age of Ultron. Haven't seen it yet, But, He was the brains behind Theta protocol and he was the one who got Strcuker's location and forwarded it to Fury to give it to the avengers. He couldn't do it himself because they think he's dead. As for how the inhumans will spread, It's still just a tease so far, We don't know anything yet. The point is, It doesn't work that way. TV Shows and Movies are parts of the same continuity and they can both influence each others as the continuity demands. Forced crossovers to me are just creative disasters.

Yeah, I've seen Age of Ultron twice now. Neither Coulson, nor any reference to anything going on in the SLIGHTEST about Agents of Shield, is mentioned in even the smallest bit. The movies act like Maria Hill runs SHIELD. Or, at the least, Captain America. The only thing brought into the movie is the helicarrier, which is made out to be something Nick Fury did himself.

You mention the Defenders, but that's not proof of anything - it's not a movie, it's a (potential) Netflix miniseries. I hope you can appreciate that's not on the same level as when I talk about movies in the context of Age of Ultron, which is set to enter into the top five highest grossing films of all time. Nothing to date has given any indication that what we've seen in any of the television or alternate source media will have any role in the major films.

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Yeah, I've seen Age of Ultron twice now. Neither Coulson, nor any reference to anything going on in the SLIGHTEST about Agents of Shield, is mentioned in even the smallest bit. The movies act like Maria Hill runs SHIELD. Or, at the least, Captain America. The only thing brought into the movie is the helicarrier, which is made out to be something Nick Fury did himself.

You mention the Defenders, but that's not proof of anything - it's not a movie, it's a (potential) Netflix miniseries. I hope you can appreciate that's not on the same level as when I talk about movies in the context of Age of Ultron, which is set to enter into the top five highest grossing films of all time. Nothing to date has given any indication that what we've seen in any of the television or alternate source media will have any role in the major films.

 

And you missed the point. Coulson didn't appear in Age of Ultron because the continuity demands so, But, He was the one who constructed the helicarrier and he was the one who found Strucker's location. The secrecy is something the continuity demands, That's why The Avengers think that Fury was the one who built it. Just because something is kept a secret for now doesn't mean that it didn't happen. There's no TV continuity and Movies continuity, There's one giant, Fat marvel continuity.

The Defenders as a comics was a strong and big arch and it will also be a strong and vast Television arch. Four series, One miniseries. Just like the movies' phase slots. The first season of Daredevil introduced one of Marvel's most iconic villains, The Kingpin, That i don't think his story is over yet. And Daredevil's second season is most likely to feature Spider-Man as well as the two have a history in the comics. But things are just starting to warm up and you can't just throw them at the big arch without them fully exploring their stories first. That's what Marvel did originally with Iron Man, Hulk, Thor and Cap. Black Widow and Hawkeye are parts of S.H.I.E.L.D., Which was essentially the key player in the first avengers movie. That's why they didn't get their own introductory movies. And actually, When Coulson was talking to Skye about the anonymity of her team, It was a clear foreshadowing to me, That this will be a big part of the plot of the Civil War. As well as The Inhumans movie. It's still just a theory, That even Clark Gregg himself believes that it would happen. He said so lately. I think it's pretty obvious. Also, my theories about The Inhumans and The Clairvoyant have been two major successes. So, We will wait and see. Point is, You can't just force something to happen in a fictional continuity, Everything has to be fluid and natural. In order for the continuity to flourish.

 

P.S: Age of Ultron being one of the highest grossing movies of all times has nothing to do with its role in the continuity.



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I was hoping to hear more about Deathlok. Oh well...

I like the long single-take combat scenes they're doing with the characters now.

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Its getting kind of messed up, though, how much Ward is getting beat up lately.

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And you missed the point. Coulson didn't appear in Age of Ultron because the continuity demands so, But, He was the one who constructed the helicarrier and he was the one who found Strucker's location. The secrecy is something the continuity demands, That's why The Avengers think that Fury was the one who built it. Just because something is kept a secret for now doesn't mean that it didn't happen. There's no TV continuity and Movies continuity, There's one giant, Fat marvel continuity.

The Defenders as a comics was a strong and big arch and it will also be a strong and vast Television arch. Four series, One miniseries. Just like the movies' phase slots. The first season of Daredevil introduced one of Marvel's most iconic villains, The Kingpin, That i don't think his story is over yet. And Daredevil's second season is most likely to feature Spider-Man as well as the two have a history in the comics. But things are just starting to warm up and you can't just throw them at the big arch without them fully exploring their stories first. That's what Marvel did originally with Iron Man, Hulk, Thor and Cap. Black Widow and Hawkeye are parts of S.H.I.E.L.D., Which was essentially the key player in the first avengers movie. That's why they didn't get their own introductory movies. And actually, When Coulson was talking to Skye about the anonymity of her team, It was a clear foreshadowing to me, That this will be a big part of the plot of the Civil War. As well as The Inhumans movie. It's still just a theory, That even Clark Gregg himself believes that it would happen. He said so lately. I think it's pretty obvious. Also, my theories about The Inhumans and The Clairvoyant have been two major successes. So, We will wait and see. Point is, You can't just force something to happen in a fictional continuity, Everything has to be fluid and natural. In order for the continuity to flourish.

P.S: Age of Ultron being one of the highest grossing movies of all times has nothing to do with its role in the continuity.


And you're missing MY point.

The movies won't act like the shows exist. There may be random bits of things in the movies that make a little more sense if you watch the show, but we'll never see Skye in and Avengers movie. We won't see Daredevil show up in a Ant Man film.

In that light, Agents of Shield just looks silly, as they keep introducing world-changing people and powers that the movies won't ever properly give credence.

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I was hoping to hear more about Deathlok. Oh well...

I like the long single-take combat scenes they're doing with the characters now.

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Its getting kind of messed up, though, how much Ward is getting beat up lately.


Well, he had to get his head cut off a few times to prepare him for his new role.

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And you're missing MY point.

The movies won't act like the shows exist. There may be random bits of things in the movies that make a little more sense if you watch the show, but we'll never see Skye in and Avengers movie. We won't see Daredevil show up in a Ant Man film.

In that light, Agents of Shield just looks silly, as they keep introducing world-changing people and powers that the movies won't ever properly give credence.

 

No, Actually, I'm addressing your point but you're just failing to see that. The characters from the shows haven't shown in the movies yet for a reason, And not because of the logic that the movies will never include TV show characters. Phase 3 will actually prove that. Daredevil doesn't show up in an Ant-Man movie because he has no place in that story arch. As for if Skye and The Inhumans will ever meet the Avengers, I think it's more than likely but it would depend on how the writers approach it. Whether it's in Civil War or in The Infinity War that will probably be set after the Inhumans movie that Skye, As Daisy Johnson, A.K.A. Quake; Will probably be a big part of. And actually, In the comics, She's a big part of the Secret Warriors storyline that has a strong resemblance to the events that happened in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s second season's finale and The Winter Soldier regarding S.H.I.E.L.D. and HYDRA and the Inhumans. I just thought that they might dub Skye's team "Secret Avengers" as opposed to the avengers. And since The Secret Avengers is also another storyline in the comics, That might seem likely. Point is as i have said it before, If they think that the continuity demands that these characters make it into the movies, Then they will, If not, Then they won't. There's no default mode of having no TV show characters in the movies.



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No, Actually, I'm addressing your point but you're just failing to see that. The characters from the shows haven't shown in the movies yet for a reason, And not because of the logic that the movies will never include TV show characters. Phase 3 will actually prove that. Daredevil doesn't show up in an Ant-Man movie because he has no place in that story arch. As for if Skye and The Inhumans will ever meet the Avengers, I think it's more than likely but it would depend on how the writers approach it. Whether it's in Civil War or in The Infinity War that will probably be set after the Inhumans movie that Skye, As Daisy Johnson, A.K.A. Quake; Will probably be a big part of. And actually, She's a big part of the Secret Warriors that has a strong resemblance to the events that happened in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s second season's finale and The Winter Soldier regarding S.H.I.E.L.D. and HYDRA and the Inhumans. Point is as i have said it before, If they think that the continuity demands that these characters make it into the movies, Then they will, If not, Then they won't. There's no default mode of having no TV show characters in the movies.

Eh. I'm enjoying the show for what it is and thinking of it more as a fan fiction than something that truly plays into the universe. Maybe you are right and that will change with Civil War, but I just don't see how they are going to introduce the concept of "suddenly, the planet is full of people with powers, we have to set up a registration act and then fight about it" all in the course of one movie.

I'm not arguing that there isn't one continuity, I'm just stating that the movies haven't (and, in my mind, will never) acknowledge the TV part of the continuity.

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I'm not arguing that there isn't one continuity, I'm just stating that the movies haven't (and, in my mind, will never) acknowledge the TV part of the continuity.


I liked what Joss Whedon had to say about it. - "We made a SHIELD TV show and then they destroyed SHIELD."

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ROFL! :D


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Also, SCIENCE, B****!!
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Well, Whedon himself made a few statements that indicated that as far as the movies are concerned Coulson is dead, meaning he's not going to show up or be mentioned in the movies again. Of course that may change, and Whedon isn't really that involved anymore as far as we know. I'd wish for some of the TV characters to at least get cameos in some of the future movies, but I won't get my hopes up.

 

It would have been so easy to have Patton Oswalt make an appearance in AoU. Just let him walk around in the background on the helicarrier - connection made. People who only watch the movies might think "was that Patton Oswalt just now?" and fans of AoS would give each other knowing looks and whisper "Theta Protocol..." and everyone would be happy.

 

As for the finale itself: ****** awesome!! "Sciene, biatch!" indeed. Fitz, Mac, Bobbi, Ward, Skye, Cal (!!) - great! Really looking forward to S3!


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