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[bohica01]

Games should work on a universal star based system, like movies. The difference between a 3.5 and 4 is noticeable. But what makes the difference between a 9.3 and a 9.4?

[ExarKun00720]

bohica01 wrote...

 But what makes the difference between a 9.3 and a 9.4?

A nipple shot... j/k

[ExarKun00720]

marioflag wrote...

IMO the change made by gamespot to the valutation of games is a lot better.
First: because the vote given by other magazine in decimals is not that objective but it's purely subjective. It's hard to evaluate if a 9.1 game is better or worse than a 9.3 game.
While with gamespot u understand that a 9.5 game is a game u can't miss a 9.0 game isin any case an excellent game and so on....even if the fact that it is always the opinion of a reviewer should be taken always in consideration.
Second: the visual synthesis of pros and cons of every game make it certainly clearer than other magazines.


Is certainly less clear, how money, earned from publishers, influences their reviews

Well in many ways it's all just opinion, I mean I remember ME1 for 360 got a higher score than ME1 for PC, yet the reviewer said in the post that ME1 on PC was better than 360 in almost every way.  Diffrence in score?  Diffrent reviewers that's why.  Granted it was the stupid .1 diffrence or so.

[ammit23]

imo, PC ver of ME1 had bugs. Don't know about 360 ver, never tried it. Most games have different review scores on different platforms b/c of how they work as much as anything else.

[ExarKun00720]

ammit23 wrote...

imo, PC ver of ME1 had bugs. Don't know about 360 ver, never tried it. Most games have different review scores on different platforms b/c of how they work as much as anything else.

Well it's true, but in the case of the review I am talking about, which is IGN, it was not enough to say there was some bugs so I knocked a .1 of a point off.  When it comes to that it just seems one guy just didn't like the game as much as the next, despite whatever improvments there are, but he liked it enough to still give a 9 range score.

[Ji99saw]

I don't like how the psm gave uncharted 2 all 10's, evan the psm in france gave it a 21/20 but the xbox gamer gives mass effect 2 a 9/10

[ExarKun00720]

Ji99saw wrote...

I don't like how the psm gave uncharted 2 all 10's, evan the psm in france gave it a 21/20 but the xbox gamer gives mass effect 2 a 9/10

Well I don't think Uncharted 2 deserved perfect scores, close but not quite 9.7 or so in my books but that is just me, but ME1 I do feel was a 9.0-9.5 range... so I think they got the orignal scores pretty close.

On the flip side, as someone said before, some times offical "whatever" magaize, wether it is XBOX or PS3 or Wii, they will often inflate the scores of AAA games for them.  Course this isn't a 100% rule, just seems to be a common theme.

[Tobebech1307]

ExarKun00720 wrote...

Borschtbeet wrote...

I look forward to the gamespot review.
Gamespot's firing of Gerstmann was inexcusable but I think they've gotten their act together since then.

Giving Demon's Souls their Game of The Year award was an incredibly gutsy move that no doubt pissed a lot of Uncharted 2 fanboys off. 
Also the fact that they didn't even nominate Modern Warfare 2 for their Game Of The Year award no doubt required a lot of courage.

I think gamespot has redeemed themselves.

Giving a GOTY award for a game no one expected, and not nominating a popular AAA title doesn't mean you have suddenly became good at journalism.  Might they have learned and are willing to take chances?  Yes.  Could they also just be doing this hoping they seem radical and people will flock back to read again? Of course.

Have you actually tried Demon Souls or Modern Warfare 2? It is really quite clear witch one of them is the GOTY.

Modifié par Tobebech1307, 18 janvier 2010 - 06:53 .

[radwimp]

It was clear DS was GOTY, and anyone who played it would agree. I'm just surprised anyone (site or magazine that is) had the guts to actually give it to it and not one of the more fanboyish popular games that was released this year. +1 Gamespot.

Also loving the ME2 reviews so far.

Modifié par jewbagel, 18 janvier 2010 - 06:59 .

[ExarKun00720]

Tobebech1307 wrote...

ExarKun00720 wrote...

Borschtbeet wrote...

I look forward to the gamespot review.
Gamespot's firing of Gerstmann was inexcusable but I think they've gotten their act together since then.

Giving Demon's Souls their Game of The Year award was an incredibly gutsy move that no doubt pissed a lot of Uncharted 2 fanboys off. 
Also the fact that they didn't even nominate Modern Warfare 2 for their Game Of The Year award no doubt required a lot of courage.

I think gamespot has redeemed themselves.

Giving a GOTY award for a game no one expected, and not nominating a popular AAA title doesn't mean you have suddenly became good at journalism.  Might they have learned and are willing to take chances?  Yes.  Could they also just be doing this hoping they seem radical and people will flock back to read again? Of course.

Have you actually tried Demon Souls or Modern Warfare 2? It is really quite clear witch one of them is the GOTY.

I have both, didn't like either as much as Dragons Age or Assassins Creed II, to each his own basically.

[6Jonnie6]

DeathCultArm wrote...

The only review I really only give any merit to it IGN. Thats usually who i agree with.

IGN know next to nothing about gaming and I tend to take their reviews with a pinch of salt now. I used to like them but recently their reviews etc have been very incorrect imo

[Tobebech1307]

ExarKun00720 wrote...

Tobebech1307 wrote...

ExarKun00720 wrote...

Borschtbeet wrote...

I look forward to the gamespot review.
Gamespot's firing of Gerstmann was inexcusable but I think they've gotten their act together since then.

Giving Demon's Souls their Game of The Year award was an incredibly gutsy move that no doubt pissed a lot of Uncharted 2 fanboys off. 
Also the fact that they didn't even nominate Modern Warfare 2 for their Game Of The Year award no doubt required a lot of courage.

I think gamespot has redeemed themselves.

Giving a GOTY award for a game no one expected, and not nominating a popular AAA title doesn't mean you have suddenly became good at journalism.  Might they have learned and are willing to take chances?  Yes.  Could they also just be doing this hoping they seem radical and people will flock back to read again? Of course.

Have you actually tried Demon Souls or Modern Warfare 2? It is really quite clear witch one of them is the GOTY.

I have both, didn't like either as much as Dragons Age or Assassins Creed II, to each his own basically.

They picked Demon's souls because of it being innovative, and new, and of cause because it was a very good game, it is just only viable for a small audience. Dragon Age and AC II are good, but i actually think thats gamespot did a good job by choosing Demons Souls for GOTY. Still both sites gave GTA IV a 10, and MW 2 too high reviews, so i always takes their reviews with a grain of salt.

[ExarKun00720]

Tobebech1307 wrote...

ExarKun00720 wrote...

Tobebech1307 wrote...

ExarKun00720 wrote...

Borschtbeet wrote...

I look forward to the gamespot review.
Gamespot's firing of Gerstmann was inexcusable but I think they've gotten their act together since then.

Giving Demon's Souls their Game of The Year award was an incredibly gutsy move that no doubt pissed a lot of Uncharted 2 fanboys off. 
Also the fact that they didn't even nominate Modern Warfare 2 for their Game Of The Year award no doubt required a lot of courage.

I think gamespot has redeemed themselves.

Giving a GOTY award for a game no one expected, and not nominating a popular AAA title doesn't mean you have suddenly became good at journalism.  Might they have learned and are willing to take chances?  Yes.  Could they also just be doing this hoping they seem radical and people will flock back to read again? Of course.

Have you actually tried Demon Souls or Modern Warfare 2? It is really quite clear witch one of them is the GOTY.

I have both, didn't like either as much as Dragons Age or Assassins Creed II, to each his own basically.

They picked Demon's souls because of it being innovative, and new, and of cause because it was a very good game, it is just only viable for a small audience. Dragon Age and AC II are good, but i actually think thats gamespot did a good job by choosing Demons Souls for GOTY. Still both sites gave GTA IV a 10, and MW 2 too high reviews, so i always takes their reviews with a grain of salt.

I like Demon's Soul leaps and bounds better than MW2, part of me still wonders why I got MW2, I like it overall but it is mosly the same stuff that was in COD4.  

I guess I mainly like games with epic stories, but everyone is right in the gameplay aspect of Demon's Soul is killer, if they could make the gameplay with a hugely epic story line, I would have loved it so much more.

Though overall, as 2009 games go, I ranked it in my top 5, Demon's Soul, I just didn't like it enough to call it my GOTY.

[DeathCultArm]

Demon Soul's, innovative...?

[Pannamaslo]

Polish review is here!

10/10

+ amazing gameplay
+ great characters and dialogs
+ great VA (at lest English version)
+ great combat system
+ interesting and captivating plot
+ general "look"

- no major disadvantages

This means that ME 2 is the first game in a long time to score that high in cd-action (which THE MAGAZINE in Poland). Three reviewers must have agreed that game deserves maximum score (DA:O got "only" 8 or so).

Additional comments:

+ ME 2 is in every aspect better than ME 1

AND

spoiler









 You will find there the assasin with problematic son" I wonder...









Congrats Bioware

Modifié par Pannamaslo, 19 janvier 2010 - 07:49 .

[DeathCultArm]

IGN usually do high pro-file reivews a week early, I wonder what they'll give it...

[SurfaceBeneath]

I am not interested in percentage scores that gaming "journalists" give games. They should stick to a 5 star system and devote their major critical eye to composing a very detailed text review. I get far more out of a good textured review of a game than I do a game scoring a 82/100/8.2/10 or whatever.



The reviews of ME2 so far have been very interesting and have gotten me even more excited about the game. I see very few flaws being mentioned at all.

[AlbertoAquilani]

You can add another, Xbox World 360:



90% score awarded. "Arguably the best RPG in recent years," says mag.

[KotOREffecT]

Personally the reviews excite me. I think because some are a little off by stating surprising things such as the story, as a negative, or that the game has lost certain RPG elements. Personally, from what I've seen so far, that remains to be seen. Infact I doubt the latter. This just makes me more intrigued by ME 2, and with the really positive reviews about the story and saying this is the best RPG in years, is just icing on the cake.

[Piccolotto649]

And the new CD Action review 10/10

[ExarKun00720]

Pannamaslo wrote...

Polish review is here!

10/10

+ amazing gameplay
+ great characters and dialogs
+ great VA (at lest English version)
+ great combat system
+ interesting and captivating plot
+ general "look"

- no major disadvantages

This means that ME 2 is the first game in a long time to score that high in cd-action (which THE MAGAZINE in Poland). Three reviewers must have agreed that game deserves maximum score (DA:O got "only" 8 or so).

Additional comments:

+ ME 2 is in every aspect better than ME 1

AND

spoiler









 You will find there the assasin with problematic son" I wonder...









Congrats Bioware

Is that CD-Action's review?  I have one polish one up that got 10/10 wanted to make sure they were not the same.

[ExarKun00720]

AlbertoAquilani wrote...

You can add another, Xbox World 360:

90% score awarded. "Arguably the best RPG in recent years," says mag.

Do you have anything I could possibley link to that?  A cover shot, small article giving it a synaposis?

[Br0th3rGr1mm]

There are far too many 10/10 scores being tossed about recently. From what i hear (I have never played it longer than 10 min), Uncharted 2 was the only game that deserved it last year. There are also FAR too few 5/10 scores EVER given out. The game industry seems to EXPECT a 6-10 / 10 scale these days and most reviewers oblige them. It's sad.

The only thing sadder is seeing bllind game fans stating they were "expecting" all 10/10s and are "confused" or "angry" about a 9/10 score for their favorite title. Very sad indeed.

The fact that this thread gets this much attention is pretty sad as well since most game scores are (most often) abitrary personal opinions of the reviewer.  The score is much less about the "site" that it's associated with but more about he individual doing the review.  It's almost as if some fans are not confident enough in their own taste in games, but need someone to "validate" it for them.  Gamers should like what they like and screw score numbers.

Modifié par Br0th3rGr1mm, 19 janvier 2010 - 05:17 .

[Pannamaslo]

ExarKun00720 wrote...

Pannamaslo wrote...

Polish review is here!

10/10

+ amazing gameplay
+ great characters and dialogs
+ great VA (at lest English version)
+ great combat system
+ interesting and captivating plot
+ general "look"

- no major disadvantages

This means that ME 2 is the first game in a long time to score that high in cd-action (which THE MAGAZINE in Poland). Three reviewers must have agreed that game deserves maximum score (DA:O got "only" 8 or so).

Additional comments:

+ ME 2 is in every aspect better than ME 1

AND

spoiler









 You will find there the assasin with problematic son" I wonder...









Congrats Bioware

Is that CD-Action's review?  I have one polish one up that got 10/10 wanted to make sure they were not the same.

Yes. I forgot to mention that fact, sorry 

[izmirtheastarach]

Br0th3rGr1mm wrote...

There are far too many 10/10 scores being tossed about recently. From what i hear (I have never played it longer than 10 min), Uncharted 2 was the only game that deserved it last year. There are also FAR too few 5/10 scores EVER given out. The game industry seems to EXPECT a 6-10 / 10 scale these days and most reviewers oblige them. It's sad.

The only thing sadder is seeing bllind game fans stating they were "expecting" all 10/10s and are "confused" or "angry" about a 9/10 score for their favorite title. Very sad indeed.

As long as you view these things in the proper context, the scores are fine. If the scale is 5 to 10, then it is a 5 point scale.