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Not even similar. 

Imagine if a Praetorian gets 75% DR on host. What would you do? Is that normal? Off hosters melt them and you can't even dent them with your maxed weapons. 


Unfortunately it's not yours or my interpretation of the rule that matters =P

I don't see the actual logic you're applying here as being any good for the "no unfair advantages allowed", but you might get away on either A. It's technically considered a bug fix, or B. They're just not banning anymore.

 

There are TONS of not intended but "working as intended" stuff in this game. And Bioware won't comment on 90% of them. And I'm 100% sure that insane Phantom DR on host and no DR off host was not intended. 

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Just mod it Quotes....Most of the naysayers are console peasants...


Professional Cheaters, yeah go cheat your way out like spoiled punks

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i glue the Crutcholyte to all my kits because of the silliness of phantoms.

 

See, that pisses me off the most. 

One gun makes them an ABSOLUTE JOKE. Weightless plastic toy owns them even without ammo consumables, while my ULTRA powerful 300 pound AR can't even strip the barriers in 1 clip.  

And these anti-Phantom guns actually fire slow-ass projectiles and the Phantoms can't and won't dodge them, while they will dodge a sniper rifle shot at ultra-sonic speeds. 

LOL, the logic is staggering. 

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IamZAE wrote...

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Just mod it Quotes....Most of the naysayers are console peasants...


Professional Cheaters, yeah go cheat your way out like spoiled punks

 

You play on eggsbawx and this does not concern you. Jelly much maybe? 

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The Sin wrote...

Just mod it Quotes....Most of the naysayers are console peasants...


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Do you really suffer that much from Phantoms?

Most of kits have some kind of anti-phantom powers. (Something that strips off her barrier or stagger even if they don`t immobilize her completely)
Weapon based character can easy kill them using Acolyte/Venom/Krysae/Scorpion/GPS and others.

It`s hard to understand you still cannot deal with Phantom DR after all this time.

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Air Quotes wrote...

IamZAE wrote...

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IamZae is a bad person and should feel bad.

inb4endofline.


i am a bad person, but I do not feel bad, someone got to control the population of PC knuckleheads before it gets out f hand.

 

Console missile glitching was ouf hand (and still is) way before PC users started to mod the Coalesced. 

Yeah I'm going to have to disagree with you on that. It's just more prevalent on Xbox.

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Tallgeese_VII wrote...

Do you really suffer that much from Phantoms?

Most of kits have some kind of anti-phantom powers. (Something that strips off her barrier or stagger even if they don`t immobilize her completely)
Weapon based character can easy kill them using Acolyte/Venom/Krysae/Scorpion/GPS and others.

It`s hard to understand you still cannot deal with Phantom DR after all this time.


Those have been outlawed by the International ME3MP Sportsmanship Association.

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Tallgeese_VII wrote...

Do you really suffer that much from Phantoms?

Most of kits have some kind of anti-phantom powers. (Something that strips off her barrier or stagger even if they don`t immobilize her completely)
Weapon based character can easy kill them using Acolyte/Venom/Krysae/Scorpion/GPS and others.

It`s hard to understand you still cannot deal with Phantom DR after all this time.


She said it isn't that she can't deal with Phantoms but wants to mod the game so it's more fun.

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Makai81 wrote...

Tallgeese_VII wrote...

Do you really suffer that much from Phantoms?

Most of kits have some kind of anti-phantom powers. (Something that strips off her barrier or stagger even if they don`t immobilize her completely)
Weapon based character can easy kill them using Acolyte/Venom/Krysae/Scorpion/GPS and others.

It`s hard to understand you still cannot deal with Phantom DR after all this time.


She said it isn't that she can't deal with Phantoms but wants to mod the game so it's more fun.


It`s contradicting.
He needs to deal with it as the game intended him to do so if he can. (off-host non-phantom DR is just another glitch. Even so.. host still is better at killing Phantom with right tools, hitscan weapons still work great against phantom in cover)

If he is modding it for more fun on his term. It`s simply another bannable offense as he says.
All glitcher/modder/cheaters are doing it for their FUN.

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Air Quotes wrote...
LOL, the logic is staggering. 


This thread is packed with staggering logic. :whistle:

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SectiplaveB4 wrote...
This thread is packed with

Air Quotes wrote...LOL

:whistle:


Eh, close enough.

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Thing about Phantom is that they are there to give you challenge & make tactical choice.
They are not there so you can shoot their head right away and get easy 2000 points.

I am not sure if absence of off-host DR is intended or not,
but given the fact off-host players suffer multiple disadvantage (like blank projectile, power), this is more than fair in my opinion.

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Tallgeese_VII wrote...

Thing about Phantom is that they are there to give you challenge & make tactical choice.
They are not there so you can shoot their head right away and get easy 2000 points.

I am not sure if absence of off-host DR is intended or not,
but given the fact off-host players suffer multiple disadvantage (like blank projectile, power), this is more than fair in my opinion.

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I've seen somebody saying that according to devs the Phantom DR was intended for all players, not only the host. So.. yeah.

Modifié par Heldarion, 17 mai 2013 - 12:58 .


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Heldarion wrote...

Tallgeese_VII wrote...

Thing about Phantom is that they are there to give you challenge & make tactical choice.
They are not there so you can shoot their head right away and get easy 2000 points.

I am not sure if absence of off-host DR is intended or not,
but given the fact off-host players suffer multiple disadvantage (like blank projectile, power), this is more than fair in my opinion.

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I've seen somebody saying that according to devs the Phantom DR was intended for all players, not only the host. So.. yeah.


That`s how I knew too.
In this case, the damn glitch is actually working better for all of us including BW.

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Tallgeese_VII wrote...

Thing about Phantom is that they are there to give you challenge & make tactical choice.
They are not there so you can shoot their head right away and get easy 2000 points.

I am not sure if absence of off-host DR is intended or not,
but given the fact off-host players suffer multiple disadvantage (like blank projectile, power), this is more than fair in my opinion.

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They were most likely intended to have some sort of DR when moving.  Definitely not enough to take a full load of claymore pellets to the face and only lose a couple of bars of barrier, but it would be pretty stupid if they were as easy to kill as any other ground trooper.

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Just mod it so that everyone gets the on-host damage reduction. A phantom is worth 8/10ths of an atlas in the spawn budget, it shouldn't die from one Claymore shot off-host.

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Makai81 wrote...

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Just mod it Quotes....Most of the naysayers are console peasants...


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Whiny..how so ? Don't need to whine. PC gaming is superior to consoles so PC gamers don't have to whine about anything. Its like Reapers whining about Geth. They don't have to & they don't need to because they are infinitely superior.

Look I don't get it why people are so up in arms about this issue. 

Why exactly can't we change & customize the game the way we want. ? It is like buying a car & saying that you cannot modify the car because the customer have to swallow the design philosophy of the car even if they don't like it  ? What logic is this ? The product is ours, we bought it and we should be allowed to do what we want with it., 

Modding a game should be allowed. If people cheat by making super powerful weapons or making themselves imbalanced, that's what they want. Just don't play with them. 

Also what Quotes is doing is to balance the game. It is his game, he can do whatever modding he wants with it.  The modding he is suggesting is not a cheat.  His manifest & challenges are maxed out so he has nothing to gain even if he is cheating. & he is not. 

Btw Quotes, IMO you should set the DR to 45% instead of 75% . Or 50%. 

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ISHYGDDT wrote...

Just mod it so that everyone gets the on-host damage reduction. A phantom is worth 8/10ths of an atlas in the spawn budget, it shouldn't die from one Claymore shot off-host.


Best fix IMO. Let everyone experience the dumbness of phantom DR then we'll see if some people change their tune. Since its not an unfair advantage :devil:, it will be fine based on the devs comments. Unfortunately its not something that can be dones though the bin file or they would have fixed it way back.

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you guys are actually discussing how to cheat? hahahhahahahahahahahahaha
you guys are truly pathetic.

i fully understand why AQ hated n7 link, its because hes butthurt for the fact that link cheated in a way AQ coundnt understand and duplicate so he goes after link publicly

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I'm sensing that Zae has a genuine dislike for AQ.

Anyone else notice this? Or am I reading too much into it? 

Modifié par JediHarbinger, 17 mai 2013 - 03:55 .


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IamZAE wrote...

you guys are actually discussing how to cheat? hahahhahahahahahahahahaha
you guys are truly pathetic.

i fully understand why AQ hated n7 link, its because hes butthurt for the fact that link cheated in a way AQ coundnt understand and duplicate so he goes after link publicly


Either you're a troll or a downer. Either way I feel bad for you.

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Play off host more. I do.

People who always play on host weird me out tbf.

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JediHarbinger wrote...

I'm sensing that Zae has a genuine dislike for AQ.

Anyone else notice this? Or am I reading too much into?


i dislike any and all condescending people, he started with his cheating garbage and trying to convince bsn its justified because it is so called "bug"   he aint fooling anyone.

if aq wanna cheat he should rename the title this:

"on-host phantoms are too hard for me, i am going to cheat its ok bsn"