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[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

 console peasants crying about 60 $.HAHA.

Mass effect 1 and 2(digital deluxe edition) 9.99 on steam

Stop crying  i bought ME3 for 69.99 EUROS

Modifié par IntelligentME3Fanboy, 17 mai 2013 - 01:38 .

[dreamgazer]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Amazon offered refunds on opened copies of ME3, which isn't an uncommon occurrence for them.

I remember when Amazon and Gamestop were actually refusing returns less than 2 weeks after release. They still don't accept them.

It depends on the situation with Amazon, but GameStop typically refuses returns on new merchandise anyway.

[AresKeith]

dreamgazer wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Amazon offered refunds on opened copies of ME3, which isn't an uncommon occurrence for them.

I remember when Amazon and Gamestop were actually refusing returns less than 2 weeks after release. They still don't accept them.

It depends on the situation with Amazon, but GameStop typically refuses returns on new merchandise anyway.

Not my GameStop

[AresKeith]

magnetite wrote...

AresKeith wrote...
Your here talking about how a real fan should buy all Bioware's game regardless when that's not how being a fan is

Are you sure about that?

You hiding behind game articles doesn't help you, like I said being a "true fan" doesn't mean buying all their product regardless or just accepting things without a form of criticism

I never bought every Bioware game, every Capcom game, every Rockstar game, every Ubisoft game

[Mahrac]

magnetite wrote...

AresKeith wrote...
Your here talking about how a real fan should buy all Bioware's game regardless when that's not how being a fan is

Are you sure about that?

You did write this

The real definition of a loyal fan is someone who keeps supporting Bioware and buying their stuff no matter what happens. 

[MassivelyEffective0730]

magnetite wrote...

AresKeith wrote...
Your here talking about how a real fan should buy all Bioware's game regardless when that's not how being a fan is

Are you sure about that?

I'm fine with author's who expand and try new idea's for different stories. I'm fine with it if the idea they want to try makes sense within the confines of the established story, universe, narrative: the scenario in which the idea's take place. 

So long as the idea fits the prior narrative and lore of the established overarching story or universe, I'm fine.

Mass Effect 3's ending is not this.

Mass Effect 3's ending is a case of the writers changing the story to fit the ending. It was rather selfish really. They had an idea that they wanted to use, but couldn't implement it without drastically altering the narrative and lore up to that point. That in and of itself isn't a bad thing, but what is a bad thing is that they decided to do it at the most important juncture of the story - the climax and conclusion. 

It wasn't a case of "How can my idea fit into Mass Effect?"

It was a case of "How can Mass Effect fit into my idea?"

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 17 mai 2013 - 01:53 .

[dreamgazer]

I was a fan of M. Night Shyamalan after Sixth Sense and Unbreakable. Now I'm not.

That's how it goes.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

 console peasants crying about 60 $.HAHA.

Mass effect 1 and 2(digital deluxe edition) 9.99 on steam

Stop crying  i bought ME3 for 69.99 EUROS

Cool man. What do you want, an ice cream?

You probably also bought the Collector's Edition. Or games just cost that much where you live.

[AresKeith]

dreamgazer wrote...

I was a fan of M. Night Shyamalan after Sixth Sense and Unbreakable. Now I'm not.

That's how it goes.

I used to be a fan of Michael Bay, now I'm ashamed of him

[MassivelyEffective0730]

AresKeith wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

I was a fan of M. Night Shyamalan after Sixth Sense and Unbreakable. Now I'm not.

That's how it goes.

I used to be a fan of Michael Bay, now I'm ashamed of him

I've hated Michael Bay ever since Pearl Harbor.

What he did there was just plain insensitive and idiotic.

[KingZayd]

dreamgazer wrote...

I was a fan of M. Night Shyamalan after Sixth Sense and Unbreakable. Now I'm not.

That's how it goes.

Oh dear.. I hope Bioware aren't going to end up like M. Night.

[Slayer299]

The making of the EC didn't set a precedent at all, it wasn't the first time a game/book/movie ending was changed because of fans outcry. I don't think it was their 'love' of their fans either. It seemed more of a business decision. A matter of an 'oh sh**! We need to fix this since its not going away' moment after the ending hit the fan.

[Jafroboy]

"The real definition of a loyal fan is someone who keeps supporting Bioware and buying their stuff no matter what happens. "

Lol, thats the definition of an idiot!

[Mahrac]

KingZayd wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

I was a fan of M. Night Shyamalan after Sixth Sense and Unbreakable. Now I'm not.

That's how it goes.

Oh dear.. I hope Bioware aren't going to end up like M. Night.

For everything they did wrong in ME3, I don't think they can reach The Last Airbender levels.

#plssayIdidn'tjinxit

[MegaSovereign]

No. The journalists who proclaimed that changing the ending would destroy gaming are just as hysterical as the Retakers.

[13Dannyboy13]

Jafroboy wrote...

"The real definition of a loyal fan is someone who keeps supporting Bioware and buying their stuff no matter what happens. "

Lol, thats the definition of an idiot!

Yeah, that's hilarious.  
Sadly, since EA bough Bioware, I've gone from preordering games months in advance, to waiting until they come out and just renting them first. The only reason I think the EC came out was to appease some fans so they'd keep spending money on dlc, just adding a few slides does nothing to fix the broken ending. I don't think it did anything to set any precedent, since it really didn't do anything to fix the problem. 

[Clayless]

KingZayd wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

Generally you can criticise the games, they're not free from criticism, but I always feel that if you're going to criticise something you have to put forward some good alternative that can stand up to the same level of critique. Generally you don't see that much on BSN.

And yeah BSN does have a large case of "previous fans". Really, if the ending ruined the enjoyment of the entire series for you, then it's time to move on.

So because we don't have the budget/time to make a better game our opinions are invalid?

You have a budget and time limit on your ideas?

I can pretty much churn out ideas as I think of them for free.

[dreamgazer]

Robosexual wrote...

You have a budget and time limit on your ideas?

I can pretty much churn out ideas as I think of them for free.

I outsource my ideas.

[Seboist]

Jafroboy wrote...

"The real definition of a loyal fan is someone who keeps supporting Bioware and buying their stuff no matter what happens. "

Lol, thats the definition of an idiot!

Indeed, some really have no standards and like giving away money.

[KingZayd]

Robosexual wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

Generally you can criticise the games, they're not free from criticism, but I always feel that if you're going to criticise something you have to put forward some good alternative that can stand up to the same level of critique. Generally you don't see that much on BSN.

And yeah BSN does have a large case of "previous fans". Really, if the ending ruined the enjoyment of the entire series for you, then it's time to move on.

So because we don't have the budget/time to make a better game our opinions are invalid?

You have a budget and time limit on your ideas?

I can pretty much churn out ideas as I think of them for free.

Oh so it's ideas? It sounded as if you wanted us to provide better games.

Tons of people supplied better endings. Not all of them good, but the vast majority I saw were better.

Modifié par KingZayd, 17 mai 2013 - 02:40 .

[FlamingBoy]

It was a triumph! It proved that voices are equally effective as this popular "voting with you wallet" trend. It showed that every consumer has a lot more cards in his deck and they have the right to use them.

In the case of "destroying artistic integrity", That is a difficult argument to make when you put it together with day one dlc, The integrity of the story was already compromised.

In conclusion, the ending (for me the game) was a disgrace, and people called them out on it. Did they get all that they wanted, no, but in the end it did not really matter because, in this case, the act was greater than the achievements

[Megaton_Hope]

magnetite wrote...

AresKeith wrote...
Your here talking about how a real fan should buy all Bioware's game regardless when that's not how being a fan is

Are you sure about that?

So his argument in support of this position on the game's provenance is George Lucas retroactively changing "A New Hope" so that Greedo shot at Han and missed before Han shot him...? Because if so, he and I have very different ideas about film. There's just no reasonable way to argue that, let's say, the "real" Casablanca has Rick and Ilsa get together at the end, and we only waited twenty years to restore the story to its original vision.

[christrek1982]

no not at all it did show that the customer has some power and that the video game industry is no diffrant that any other. films are screened and endings are changed of need be. the ME ending kick of showed that EA bioware and all the others can't just spit out any old rubbish without there being some sort of back lash if anything there needs to be more take back movements.