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[Ser Issac]

I received the latest issue of Game Informer in the mail today, and I came across this interesting tidbit concerning how Infamous: Second Son deals with Infamous 2's ending (the main character can live or die, creating a vastly different result depending on which choice): 

 "Developer Sucker Punch looked at the Playstation 3 trophy metrics to get a glimpse of what players chose on their first playthrough, and their preference was clear. In the post-New Maris world of Infamous Second Son, Cole MacGrath is dead."

I know BioWare has made it clear that ME4 will in all likelihood not be a direct sequel to ME3. But what if they had chosen to follow a similar route as Sucker Punch and let the most popular ending (destroy?) become canon? 

[kookie28]

There would be a ****storm of epic proportions

[dreamgazer]

Oh, the tears and the drama ...

[Khelish]

No.

I wouldn't want Destroy to be removed, or anyone else's canon ending.

[HiddenInWar]

Things I would need for the BSN reaction to such an event:

1. lawn chair

2. popcorn

3. butter and salt to go with said popcorn

[Tron Mega]

how can i metagame when the only choice that matters is the one i might have taken on accident?

id have to play the game from scratch with a different gamertag to get ME4 to be the way id want it to be.

...only to have ME4 retcon all my trophies and handwave all my outcomes anyways.

[Mathias]

dreamgazer wrote...

Oh, the tears and the drama ...

Despite the amount of eggs they'd be breaking if they canonized Destroy, if it meant saving the franchise then i'd say go ahead.

[Phatose]

They've never actually released any statistics to support destroy being most popular, have they?

As a simple aside, how many people picked one ending, disliked it, then reloaded and did the other two, then quit forever?  And how many simply paid no attention to the dialogue and just walked right into that beam, watched the ending and then turned the game off forever?

Modifié par Phatose, 17 mai 2013 - 01:15 .

[Mathias]

Phatose wrote...

They've never actually released any statistics to support destroy being most popular, have they?

No, which is funny considering they released a bunch of ME3 statistics at Pax, but of all those statistics there wasn't anything ending related. But I mean, it's safe to say that Destroy is easily the popular ending out of the 3. We'll just never know by how much.

[Phatose]

No it's not safe to say that. It's a giant assumption.

If anything, it's safe to say that the typical ending of Mass Effect 3 is the same as the typical ending of most other games - turning it off part of the way through and never coming back.

Modifié par Phatose, 17 mai 2013 - 01:21 .

[IMNOTCRAZYiminsane]

R.O.F.L

[GreyLycanTrope]

I'd be indifferent as they're all terrible.

[SpamBot2000]

Many people seem confused about this. They think they can have the cake with Epic, Universe-defining choice, and eat the cake of a sequel. The harsh truth is they cannot have both, at least without making a mockery of their "choices" mattering.

BW knew what they were doing when they broke this toy. And people get called "haterz!" for not cheering when it shattered.

Modifié par SpamBot2000, 17 mai 2013 - 07:49 .

[BioWareM0d13]

Destroy is far and away the fan favorite, but would statistics show that?

Many people have multiple playthroughs, and a lot of people accidentally triggered Synthesis on their first run. Post-EC, a lot of people accidentally triggered refuse by shooting Glowboy.

[PsyrenY]

Infamous 2, whatever its other merits, falls a long way short of any story Bioware has crafted.

Han Shot First wrote...

Destroy is far and away the BSN favorite

Fixed for accuracy.

Modifié par Optimystic_X, 17 mai 2013 - 08:21 .

[Examurai]

Han Shot First wrote...

Destroy is far and away the fan favorite, but would statistics show that?

Many people have multiple playthroughs, and a lot of people accidentally triggered Synthesis on their first run. Post-EC, a lot of people accidentally triggered refuse by shooting Glowboy.

Thats what happen to me lol 

I thought I would be given a dialogue choice to pick the endings, not move into them. So I naturally just kept going straight until my Shepard jumped for some reason.

[BioWareM0d13]

Optimystic_X wrote...

Infamous 2, whatever its other merits, falls a long way short of any story Bioware has crafted.

Han Shot First wrote...

Destroy is far and away the BSN favorite

Fixed for accuracy.

No, its the fan favorite.

It isn't just the BSN that prefers Destroy.

[o Ventus]

Phatose wrote...

No it's not safe to say that. It's a giant assumption.

If anything, it's safe to say that the typical ending of Mass Effect 3 is the same as the typical ending of most other games - turning it off part of the way through and never coming back.

Every poll and vote that has to do with ending preferences, ever, has Destroy in the lead. Typically by a rather large margin.

[crimzontearz]

Destroy would be canon then according to their telemetry...I would laugh SO hard and enjoy the butthurt and the bruised ego of supermac and his specemagic pet ending....then I would go back to play TW3

[Mathias]

Phatose wrote...

No it's not safe to say that. It's a giant assumption.

If anything, it's safe to say that the typical ending of Mass Effect 3 is the same as the typical ending of most other games - turning it off part of the way through and never coming back.

It's not an assumption when I see the majority of people from a variety of different websites saying Destroy is their favorite.

"Oh well, what about the people who aren't voting and voice their opinions on their internet? They're the majority after all."

Doesn't matter. If you're aware of what sample stats are, and then you see Destroy winning out in every poll, then you can understand why it is safe to assume Destroy is the most popular.

Modifié par Mdoggy1214, 17 mai 2013 - 12:11 .

[shodiswe]

Just immagine this forum when Bioware does this and tells us Destroy wasn't the most popular ending even if a thousand or so people had voted in favor for it on the BSN

The data from the millions of ME3 players might differ considerably from the select few BSN people who came here to complain about the endings because Destroy wasn't good enough, wasn't clear enough or that it destroyed the relays. Did Shepard survive or not? Those are the majority of people who came here, the people worried about the Destroy ending. And coincidentaly the originators of the IT.

[Morlath]

Ser Issac wrote...

I received the latest issue of Game Informer in the mail today, and I came across this interesting tidbit concerning how Infamous: Second Son deals with Infamous 2's ending (the main character can live or die, creating a vastly different result depending on which choice): 

 "Developer Sucker Punch looked at the Playstation 3 trophy metrics to get a glimpse of what players chose on their first playthrough, and their preference was clear. In the post-New Maris world of Infamous Second Son, Cole MacGrath is dead."

I know BioWare has made it clear that ME4 will in all likelihood not be a direct sequel to ME3. But what if they had chosen to follow a similar route as Sucker Punch and let the most popular ending (destroy?) become canon? 

As a concept itself? I'm fine with it. I've got both Infamous games and them picking the ending of Cole sacrificing himself as the cannon isn't an issue.

However the problem comes from the very vocal and rabid people on BSN/other forums. No matter what happens there are going to be some very loud complaints by some people on here and if Bioware listen too much to all the complaints then it's going to get even worse before it gets better for ME games.

[DirtyPhoenix]

HiddenInWar wrote...

Things I would need for the BSN reaction to such an event:

1. lawn chair

2. popcorn

3. butter and salt to go with said popcorn

[Shaigunjoe]

Wow, that is interesting.

But it shows the problem with using stats to make decisions like this. Just because the picked the good ending first doesn't mean they liked it the best. What if they played through it twice and decided they liked the 2nd one better.