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[ibplunderin]

Is everybody fine with this? I am just wondering if any of you have a gamer wife like I do, and find it infuriating with Dragon age and Mass Effect 2 (and Assassins creed 2) that they take out part of the game and include it as "dlc" if you buy it new, but it only works on one of the Xbox profiles. So effectively one of us are going to be screwed out of somehting that should be on the disc anyways, and then whoever get to have the party member will feel like a douche for being able to play it.

I 'd Mass Effect, and really wanted to get Dragon Age (but didn't want to pay a ridiculous amount of money just so I can play the actual full game) and now that I found out they are doing this crap again I might not get Mass Effect 2. So Bioware is there any chance you will actually let your "dlc" work on all profiles? or any way that we can both get the "dlc" short of buying it twice?

[izmirtheastarach]

That is an interesting objection, which I have never heard before. We've had many discussion on the forums about how they do it to discourage used sales.



Unless someone else has a different answer, I suppose the only way to go about this would be to use the same Xbox profile, which doesn't seem like such a horrible thing to me. I do understand why that would be annoying though.



Hmmm.

[Naltair]

Not sure how to get around this since the DLC will be tied to your BioWare account, in your case I think you might be stuck. Can she not play the game under your BioWare account?

[Darth_Trethon]

Just get two copies....problem solved. There's only one gamer in my home and that's me and I'm still getting 2 copies for the preorder bonuses and to have a back up in case something happens to one of them.....like the cat eating it or something crazy like that.

[Naltair]

It should be available to all profiles on that Xbox, but the DLC is tied to BioWare accounts so she could log into her Xbox profile and then connect to his BioWare account and it should be fine.

[javierabegazo]

>.> Not all DLC is just stripped from the main game.

That aside, yes, I love that they're doing this "Buy our game new, so we get profits, and in turn we reward you with extra".

Games and the development process are getting increasingly more complex and intricate, their pumping more out of the existing tech, the experience is richer, and everyone still wants to pay less for the same experience.

I have no problem paying money for a new copy of ME2, which makes sure my money goes to BIoware, which they in turn get to make even better games.
And on top of that, they give you a freebie for it.

But I understand your frustrations about the DLC items limiting to one gamer profile

Modifié par javierabegazo, 16 janvier 2010 - 08:56 .

[izmirtheastarach]

Naltair wrote...

It should be available to all profiles on that Xbox, but the DLC is tied to BioWare accounts so she could log into her Xbox profile and then connect to his BioWare account and it should be fine.

This makes sense. Is there some reason this wouldn't work?

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 16 janvier 2010 - 09:03 .

[Blue_dodo]

javierabegazo wrote...

>.> Not all DLC is just stripped from the main game.

That aside, yes, I love that they're doing this "Buy our game new, so we get profits, and in turn we reward you with extra".

Games and the development process are getting increasingly more complex and intricate, their pumping more out of the existing tech, the experience is richer, and everyone still wants to pay less for the same experience.

I have no problem paying money for a new copy of ME2, which makes sure my money goes to BIoware, which they in turn get to make even better games.
And on top of that, they give you a freebie for it.

But I understand your frustrations about the DLC items limiting to one gamer profile

^ this is true, personally while I like the incentives for buying it knew I do think that haveing say...the stone prisoner at $15 rather excessive, but at least they actually GIVE you an option to have it.

still $15 bucks

[ibplunderin]

javierabegazo wrote...

>.> Not all DLC is just stripped from the main game.

Well I Specifically meant Shale, and this new character for ME2 that were taken out of the game for this type of marketing. Which were taken out of the main game then used "fully integrated into the main storyline" as a + to the dlc

Either way though, this is just making me want to pirate the game and actively driving me away from a purchase that before I found out about it today was an instant buy when it came out.

I guess I just like how it was before, you bought what was on the disc and you played it and it was awesome, then DLC or expacs came out and you got that.  This whole you kind of get the full game thing I am just against. I can see how it is great to stop used sales, but it is also great to stop me and a couple other people I know (who also have gamer wives) from actively not buying it, and in some cases just pirating the game.

Either way I guess i'll just wait until it comes out and see how it all works out, or if someone from Bioware will say exactly how it works and if we will have to buy 2 copies. I just hope this doesn't become more of a trend in games, because it is really disheartening.

*edit: also about the all playing on the same profile. I said I have a gamer wife =P She wants achievements for her profile, and to get them herself. While it could be an option, it isn't a good option since we will still have one person getting everything while the other profile wont.

Modifié par ibplunderin, 16 janvier 2010 - 09:10 .

[izmirtheastarach]

I totally understand what you are saying. However, I cannot imagine that there is not some way around the issue you are having. Unless you are trying to play the game on two different Xbox 360s, I don't see why you should not be able to get this to work.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 16 janvier 2010 - 09:10 .

[ibplunderin]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

I totally understand what you are saying. However, I cannot imagine that there is not some way around the issue you are having. Unless you are trying to play the game on two different Xbox 360s, I don't see why you should not be able to get this to work.

It also didn't work with the first ME dlc. Which is why I never got the second ME dlc, since I would have to buy it twice.

*edit: to clarify, the dlc didn't work between different profiles on the same 360.

Modifié par ibplunderin, 16 janvier 2010 - 09:13 .

[SarEnyaDor]

I'm the only one with a Bioware account in the house, but the content is available to all profiles on our 360. When it first came out it was only available on mine so I'd have to log on and connect then sign out and then they could play like normal.

Then we found out about how the downloads were bundled, so deleted the items that were causing problems and redownloaded the items and did it again until everything in the bundle had been downloaded individually. After that I never needed to sign on before the rest of the house could play and still have the items.

edited to add-> any chance one of you made the profile on a different xbox originally and brought it to this one? You may need to call xbox or use their tool on the internet to change authorizations and then redownload - that's what we had to do a long time ago for Bring Down the Sky.

Modifié par SarEnyaDor, 16 janvier 2010 - 09:15 .

[izmirtheastarach]

SarEnyaDor wrote...

I'm the only one with a Bioware account in the house, but the content is available to all profiles on our 360. When it first came out it was only available on mine so I'd have to log on and connect then sign out and then they could play like normal.

Then we found out about how the downloads were bundled, so deleted the items that were causing problems and redownloade the items and did it again until everything in the bundle had been downloaded individually. After that I never needed to sign on before the rest of the house could play and still have the items.

This is with Dragon Age?

[Rm80]

well the game is on two discs (that is supposed to be two full discs) so I can't really call it something else then a full game...

that said I understand that it is inconvenient for you if its not possible to play the dlc on different accounts on the same xbox

Modifié par Rm80, 16 janvier 2010 - 09:16 .

[Gorn Kregore]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

Naltair wrote...

It should be available to all profiles on that Xbox, but the DLC is tied to BioWare accounts so she could log into her Xbox profile and then connect to his BioWare account and it should be fine.

This makes sense. Is there some reason this wouldn't work?

It works I tried it with DAO on my bro's account.

[izmirtheastarach]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

SarEnyaDor wrote...

I'm the only one with a Bioware account in the house, but the content is available to all profiles on our 360. When it first came out it was only available on mine so I'd have to log on and connect then sign out and then they could play like normal.

Then we found out about how the downloads were bundled, so deleted the items that were causing problems and redownloade the items and did it again until everything in the bundle had been downloaded individually. After that I never needed to sign on before the rest of the house could play and still have the items.

This is with Dragon Age?

If this was on Dragon Age, then OP should be fine. The DLC for ME1 was distributed differently, and was not tied to EA account like the DLC for ME2 and DAO.

[SarEnyaDor]

yeah, the first part was about DA - I accidentally submitted before I added the ME1 part and had to go back and edit it.



We also had problems with Pinnacle Station and Bring Down the Sky after our 360 died and got refurbished, had to get everything re-authorized with a bunch of phone calls and then redownload to enable it for all profiles.

[izmirtheastarach]

SarEnyaDor wrote...

yeah, the first part was about DA - I accidentally submitted before I added the ME1 part and had to go back and edit it.

We also had problems with Pinnacle Station and Bring Down the Sky after our 360 died and got refurbished, had to get everything re-authorized with a bunch of phone calls and then redownload to enable it for all profiles.

This is what I thought. So It may take some fiddling, but you can get it to work eventually.

[Naltair]

I still suggest the OP try my solution that should work and I was always under the impression that the DLC is available for all profiles on the same Xbox. Going to check now.

Edit: Just checked with my Xbox Live account and my GF's account and both of the DLCs for the Xbox 360 are available to her.  So if you download the DLC and she logs into your BioWare account it should be fine.

Modifié par Naltair, 16 janvier 2010 - 09:37 .

[Phoenixblight]

Gorn Kregore wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

Naltair wrote...

It should be available to all profiles on that Xbox, but the DLC is tied to BioWare accounts so she could log into her Xbox profile and then connect to his BioWare account and it should be fine.

This makes sense. Is there some reason this wouldn't work?

It works I tried it with DAO on my bro's account.

I just did it aswell. The OP is confused.Shale was removed because he would not have made it to the original release date in April but since EA wanted the PC to have the same release as the console, it gave them time to finish Shale. Again OP is confusing Ubisoft and Capcom tactics with bioware.

Modifié par Phoenixblight, 16 janvier 2010 - 09:37 .

[Naltair]

Yeah if she wants her Achievement points they will work and the DLC is available to all profiles on the same Xbox; just have to log into the BioWare account for ME2 and DA:O.

[ibplunderin]

hmmm, so then the "dlc" will use bioware servers instead of XBL? so you can just log in on both profiles and download it on both profiles?

This actually sounds good. Then I wouldn't mind them trying to curb used game sales, since I don't really like gamestop anyways >.<

*edit: I've heard the story about the shale dlc, I still think they took it out of the main game just for the incintive against used game sales. so I don't belive the shale story = /

Modifié par ibplunderin, 16 janvier 2010 - 09:43 .

[Phoenixblight]

ibplunderin wrote...

hmmm, so then the "dlc" will use bioware servers instead of XBL? so you can just log in on both profiles and download it on both profiles?

This actually sounds good. Then I wouldn't mind them trying to curb used game sales, since I don't really like gamestop anyways >.<

Dont have to download them twice just log into the same EA account. Thats it.

[Naltair]

ibplunderin wrote...

hmmm, so then the "dlc" will use bioware servers instead of XBL? so you can just log in on both profiles and download it on both profiles?

This actually sounds good. Then I wouldn't mind them trying to curb used game sales, since I don't really like gamestop anyways >.<

Sort of you download it via Xbox Live but you log into the BioWare account to use it; just both use the same account and you will both have access to all the same stuff and she can use it on her profile no harm no foul.

Edit: And yeah you only have to download it once.

Modifié par Naltair, 16 janvier 2010 - 09:43 .

[ibplunderin]

Nice, well thanks for the help then. I guess I will still get it on launch day, and tell my other friends before they pirate it >.<

*edit: if anyone from Bioware reads this, I'm fine with you doing all of this to stop used sales, but please just make sure you keep doing it like this, becasue this doesn't sound bad. (because with Assassin's creed 2 there was no way to share it with another person on the same console, I just figured ME2 would be like the first ME and the new AC2 stuff)

Modifié par ibplunderin, 16 janvier 2010 - 09:56 .