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There is a reason the Venom shotgun is barely used


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TheKillerAngel

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Eric Fagnan wrote...

10 Least Used Weapons (All Difficulties)

1. Venom Shotgun (0.35%)
2. Incisor Sniper Rifle (0.46%)
3. Collector Sniper Rifle (0.51%)
4. Falcon Assault Rifle (0.58%)
5. Kishock Sniper Rifle (0.60%)
6. Raider Shotgun (0.60%)
7. Krysae Sniper Rifle (0.66%)
8. Javelin Sniper Rifle (0.66%)
9. Scimitar Shotgun (0.68%)
10. Spitfire Assault Rifle (0.72%)

10 Least Used Weapons (Gold & Platinum Only)

1. Incisor Sniper Rifle (0.23%)
2. Viper Sniper Rifle (0.32%)
3. Scimitar Shotgun (0.36%)
4. Vindicator Assault Rifle (0.39%)
5. Raptor Sniper Rifle (0.43%)
6. Venom Shotgun (0.46%)
7. Falcon Assault Rifle (0.47%)
8. Collector Sniper Rifle (0.54%)
9. Krysae Sniper Rifle (0.57%)
10. Argus Assault Rifle (0.61%)


To fool around with the thing, I decided to change its damage to 1600-1900 (this is ~25% more damage than a Claymore). Even then, its effectiveness was unimpressive. I don't think I'd like it even if I increased its damage all the way to 3000.

The biggest issue is its lackluister area of effect - to hit a target you practically have to land the grenade at its feet, hit it directly, or use the alternative firing mode. Even then, its weight class prevents it from being used to fill a "utility" role for most kits. The scorpion, falcon, and acolyte all weigh less, are relatively easier to acquire and can do the job better.

Modifié par TheKillerAngel, 17 mai 2013 - 10:12 .


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Caldari Ghost

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oh

#3
k1ngl1ves

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Reported.

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ManceBane

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What radius is its aoe?

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stysiaq

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I think it's okayish, but the only kit I used it on was the Salarian Infiltrator.

The AoE is quite unreliable. Scorpion is so much easier to use.

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oO Stryfe Oo

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Yeah...the AoE blows. Combine that with the fact that it's got an arc/strange projection, and I just...I'm none too pleased when I see this card pop up. Not pleased at all, good sir.

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I think I only have a few kits outfitted with the Venom. I only have a Venom I so it's incredily heavy for the damage it does. Not worth the effort it takes to actually damage enemies either.

I enjoy the gun though, not going to lie.

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TheKillerAngel

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I could give the gun over 9000 damage and that just might be enough to make me use it

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Domnuxx

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I like it on my AJA. Use reave to stagger mob, then Venom with Warp Ammo.

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N7 Panda

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How big is the AoE radius?

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HeroicMass

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I love it and find it highly effective. That being said, I know its not for everyone.

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TheKillerAngel wrote...

I could give the gun over 9000 damage and that just might be enough to make me use it


The things you are saying don't make any sense.

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Weight range could have done with being compressed towards the lower end. Same with Lancer. Rationale being that most bods will not have high level, Wraith is a good example of doing it right.

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stysiaq

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TheKillerAngel wrote...

I could give the gun over 9000 damage and that just might be enough to make me use it


That's quite silly, the gun isn't that bad.

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TheKillerAngel

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stysiaq wrote...

TheKillerAngel wrote...

I could give the gun over 9000 damage and that just might be enough to make me use it


That's quite silly, the gun isn't that bad.


I am exaggerating, of course, but I think it's shocking to see that the Incisor and Krysae are used more.

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People are not familiar with over 9000 meme over here.

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stysiaq

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Air Quotes wrote...

People are not familiar with over 9000 meme over here.


it's an ancient meme. Of course i know it. But the only thing that is bad about the Venom is not the damage, but how the charged shot works, unless I directly hit the enemy.

That's just my 2 cents, I won't use it on many classes.

Mostly because Spare ammo mod paints it half brown, and that looks awful.

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Killerangelpls, you need to airflak.

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ISHYGDDT

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I actually like it, and use it quite often on infiltrators. It could definitely have used a less heavy handed nerf when it came from single player though that way it would be worth using on classes that can't buff it to 4 times its base damage.

Modifié par ISHYGDDT, 17 mai 2013 - 10:28 .


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I just tried to do the 200k Venom challenge and .. ugh. Horrible idea. Sometimes I can 2shot a Phantom, sometimes I empty an entire clip and do next to no damage.
I think it's not just the small AoE, it's also lag. Aiming at the feet of moving enemies only works if they are really where you see them.

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I've only found it useful on my Krolord. I've seen people have success with it on the MQE. Main reason I don't is because if I'm gonna have a heavy shotty, it might as well be a claymoar.

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heroicmass wrote...

I love it and find it highly effective. That being said, I know its not for everyone.


This.

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TMB903

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^^^what Heroic said.

I was sort of meh about it at first but I've grown to love it. I've had a ton of fun running around with it on the DM-less Destroyer build I've been tinkering with. Unfortunately it's another weapon that is gimped a bit off host.

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It's alright. You just can't expect to hit something just by aiming in it's general direction like other AoE weapons. It's fun to use though I'm not very good with it.

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It has been excellent weapon for my Destroyer & Infiltrators.
When I tried it on all other characters.. I didn`t like it at all.