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There is a reason the Venom shotgun is barely used


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#26
BridgeBurner

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Right, killer, if you're using it on host and not liking it, I got no advice.

But, if there's one change you make to your ini. files, it should be turning the graal / GPS / projectile weapons "clientpredictprojectile" to false.

Basically, this means the visual effect of the projectile is synchronised with the actual "logic" thread portion, when the game isn't predicting where the projectile is firing.... before it actually fires. Off-host GPS means the visual effect is always (insert your latency here) miliseconds before the actual logic thread component, so you can't aim it using visuals except on host, ergo; telling it to NOT predict the projectile fixes this.

If you are playing off-host, the projectiles fire instantly, but the logic thread component is delayed by latency... which is f*cking stupid, as projectile weapons require a visual effect to be able to aim them properly.

Shooting and having the visual / weapon effect not in sync (Hey, I hit that dude but I did no damage, lolwut?) is actually a lot worse than having a solid 100 ms delay on the projectile firing after you click the trigger... one is easy to predict as the shot you fired is the one that deals damage, the other is impossible to predict as the visual projectile isn't sync'd with the projectile in the logic thread.

Modifié par Annomander, 17 mai 2013 - 10:38 .


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Cyonan

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It's not that bad of a gun.

Though the CSR, Raider, and Javelin are all on the list. The lists say next to nothing about the actual effectiveness of the weapons on them.

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Leland Gaunt

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Venom is of one the best utility weapons and it also deals a more than decent amount of damage. Try it on Engineers like QME, Geth or on Adepts like the Drell. It's great on AOE orientated characters.

And: L2P!

#29
KevTheGamer

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I like the Venom shot gun the problem is that I like the Wraith, Claymore, and raider a lot more.

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Kalas Magnus

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I forget that's even in the game. They should have added Chakram instead.

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At least the Incisor earned it spot on the crap list.

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Beerfish wrote...

At least the Incisor earned it spot on the crap list.


What I find really disconcerting, is that the avenger, katana, shuriken and the predator weren't there...

Apparently, more people use the avenger in gold / platinum than use the venom...

:?

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I'd use it more, but mine is only level III, and so its too heavy for me to use on most of the classes I want to use it on. If it was a rare and I could max it to X, make it a decent weight then it would be good.

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DeadeyeCYclops

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how funny is it that the predator pistol is used more than all 10 of these weapons even in gold/plat...?

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Leland Gaunt wrote...

Venom is of one the best utility weapons and it also deals a more than decent amount of damage. Try it on Engineers like QME, Geth or on Adepts like the Drell. It's great on AOE orientated characters.

It weighs too much for a utility weapon.

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Leland Gaunt wrote...

Venom is of one the best utility weapons and it also deals a more than decent amount of damage. Try it on Engineers like QME, Geth or on Adepts like the Drell. It's great on AOE orientated characters.

And: L2P!


Too heavy for a utility role. I can choose among other level X UR weapons that are more effective.

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Max Dmian

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heroicmass wrote...

I love it and find it highly effective. That being said, I know its not for everyone.



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IcarusAloft

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It is actually a fun gun. Ammo application + overload (insert any other multi-splosion power here) is an awesome time.

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StoxRegalia

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Annomander wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

At least the Incisor earned it spot on the crap list.


What I find really disconcerting, is that the avenger, katana, shuriken and the predator weren't there...

Apparently, more people use the avenger in gold / platinum than use the venom...

:?


I use the avenger on gold/platinum.

Come at me sis.

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megabeast37215

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I can't stop using the damn thing... on or off host. Its Fn amazing.... anyone who says otherwise is a fool who should be eaten.

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HeroicMass

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megabeast37215 wrote...

I can't stop using the damn thing... on or off host. Its Fn amazing.... anyone who says otherwise is a fool who should be eaten.


glad you joined the club. The gun is amazing

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megabeast37215 wrote...

I can't stop using the damn thing... on or off host. Its Fn amazing.... anyone who says otherwise is a fool who should be eaten.



what kits do you like it on?

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ThelLastTruePatriot

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stysiaq wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

People are not familiar with over 9000 meme over here.


it's an ancient meme. Of course i know it. But the only thing that is bad about the Venom is not the damage, but how the charged shot works, unless I directly hit the enemy.

That's just my 2 cents, I won't use it on many classes.

Mostly because Spare ammo mod paints it half brown, and that looks awful.


 *chuckles*

  That color is certainly most fitting for this weapon. It also sums up how I feel about this gun.

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DarkFaerie316

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megabeast37215 wrote...

I can't stop using the damn thing... on or off host. Its Fn amazing.... anyone who says otherwise is a fool who should be eaten.



Can I borrow it? I no have one yet :(

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Cyonan wrote...

It's not that bad of a gun.

Though the CSR, Raider, and Javelin are all on the list. The lists say next to nothing about the actual effectiveness of the weapons on them.

That is correct. The list is more about what people have (weapon levels) and what they are comfortable with than it is about effectiveness. In fact, weapon effect can hardly be said to be a significant factor here.

The reason the Venom is on the list is that it's not a traditional weapon design, and it's hard to get. It's got next to nothing to do with its utility. Notice I'm not lobbying for the gun, just correcting faulty non-factual sequiturs in your OP.

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 I don't use it because I don't have it.
Also, is quite surprising having all these threads bragging about hacks and cheaters on the very first page and no one to give a damn.

But in all truth, today I couldn't care less 'cus it's friday, I'm in love :wub:

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ThelLastTruePatriot

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Mister Blip wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

It's not that bad of a gun.

Though the CSR, Raider, and Javelin are all on the list. The lists say next to nothing about the actual effectiveness of the weapons on them.

That is correct. The list is more about what people have (weapon levels) and what they are comfortable with than it is about effectiveness. In fact, weapon effect can hardly be said to be a significant factor here.

The reason the Venom is on the list is that it's not a traditional weapon design, and it's hard to get. It's got next to nothing to do with its utility. Notice I'm not lobbying for the gun, just correcting faulty non-factual sequiturs in your OP.


 I actually agree here since the javelin was on that list...and it is arguably the most devastating single shot sniper rifle out there.

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So people don't like it because it takes skill. I still don't have a level one. Troll store.

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I saw this black GI on PS3 using a Venom IV and he absolutely destroyed Cerberus with it. It was so insane it wasn't even funny. I think he ended up scoring as much as the rest of us combined, and I'm the one who typically does that.

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I can top a scoreboard with the weapon but that doesn't mean I think it's good for its rarity class.