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"You're asking me to change everything, everyone. I can't make that decision. I won't."


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#426
Nerevar-as

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Caldari Ghost wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Phatose wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Phatose wrote...

Forgiving those you believe to be innocent is easy.
Forgiving those you believe to be guilty is hard.

Someone who saves a victim is a hero.
Someone who saves a villain? He's the messiah.

That's really what it comes down to.


How so?


In 3 out of 4 endings, the Reapers don't die.  In 1 of those endings, we do.  Assuming our own survival is top priority, what other reason remains? 

There is a vast amount of unsupported head-canon going on.  But when you look at the big picture?  Or even the BSN threads?  It comes down to "We will not let the Reapers live.  No matter what."

The Reapers were horrible.  Who's the greater hero?  The one who kills the bad guy, or the one who leads them back to the light?

I'm no Christian, but Jesus said to turn the other cheek.  Why can't we?


Because that phrase is harder than it sounds, some people can be forgiven over time

But the Catalyst and Reapers are far beyond forgiveness from the countless cycles of genocide, not everything can be forgiven.

And the Reapers were never in the light to begin with (Sovereign, Harbinger for example)

forgiveness is intangible. as long as you can comprehend the concept, it has potential. and the reapers have minds as well.


You can forgive a predator for trying to kill you, but it won´t give a damn and will keep trying. The only thing tragic about a Reaper is its creation, but they are built to be unrepentant arrogant killer SoBs, and that´s all they are. Control is enslaving them, and synthesis is brainwashing them along with every sentient in the galaxy (unless you believe becoming techorganic is the key to galactic peace by itself). That left Destroy or Refuse...

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Iakus

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Nerevar-as wrote...

You can forgive a predator for trying to kill you, but it won´t give a damn and will keep trying. The only thing tragic about a Reaper is its creation, but they are built to be unrepentant arrogant killer SoBs, and that´s all they are. Control is enslaving them, and synthesis is brainwashing them along with every sentient in the galaxy (unless you believe becoming techorganic is the key to galactic peace by itself). That left Destroy or Refuse...


Forgiveness needs contrition to be effective.

The Reapers show no regret at what tehy have done.  Indeed, may not even be capable of it.

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Where does teaching end and brainwashing begin?

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Phatose wrote...

Where does teaching end and brainwashing begin?


When they tie you to a chair and run electricity through your finger tips for asking a question. Up to the point where you are a charred husk, or will gladly repeat, word for word, what you have been told. (because your finger's tingle when you don't).

As for brainwashing......:P