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Does that make the Wii U Windows ME?:huh:


More like Vista.

Wii was the XP, new with pretty baubles that people could still accept. Gamecube was 2000, the rock-solid OS that people loved. Or did people love XP?

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I mean, that's kinda like shooting a fish in a barrel.

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I've never actually seen a fish in a barrel, let alone one getting shot

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A shot of cold, hard truth... coming from someone in the industry itself. 'Bout damn time.

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Meh... Nothing is wrong with the system... It's just need more games, Not games that have already been released a year earlier like Batman Arkham City and Assassin Creed. People already played them. They had a whole year to released a Zelda, 3D Mario, Super Smash Brothers, Kirby, and/or Metroid while Sony and Microsoft was still making their new systems. A whole year.... the only reason the 3DS did great now because it actually ended up getting good plenty of good games finally and the Vita was more expensive and only had Persona 4 Golden. But after seeing the launch lineup for the PS4 and 2 gaming companies not going to support the Wii U... Doesn't look too good for Nintendo...

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greengoron89 wrote...

A shot of cold, hard truth... coming from someone in the industry itself. 'Bout damn time.


Hasn't everyone been saying the exact same thing?


Still once Wind Waker HD and Smash Bros. is released I might just have to buy one.

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As much as I don't like Nintendo, if the production cost for the Wii U is low and Nintendo crap out the same old Zelda, Fire Emblem, Mario. The system would be fine. At least, for the moment. It may not be able to compete with the other systems or have as many exclusive, but the company could still turn a profit. The biggest mistake for Nintendo is using the same strategy and continuing to target the casual market, but they're now having to compete with the smart phone market for those people as well.

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Skelter192 wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

A shot of cold, hard truth... coming from someone in the industry itself. 'Bout damn time.


Hasn't everyone been saying the exact same thing?


Still once Wind Waker HD and Smash Bros. is released I might just have to buy one.

I want that "Wii No"

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J. Reezy wrote...

I'm starting to think Nintendo should stick to the handheld market at this point. *Hugs his 3DS*


This right here.

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Skelter192 wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

A shot of cold, hard truth... coming from someone in the industry itself. 'Bout damn time.


Hasn't everyone been saying the exact same thing?


Still once Wind Waker HD and Smash Bros. is released I might just have to buy one.


Daaaaaamn... someone get the doctor: Nintendo just got burned.

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Ouch. Can't really disagree either.

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J. Reezy wrote...

I'm starting to think Nintendo should stick to the handheld market at this point. *Hugs his 3DS*


I agree. The 3DS is great.

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I think they made a mistake launching primarily on a bunch of titles that had already come out on the 360 and ps3. They really should have had some strong first party launch titles. And by first party I really just mean a new Zelda game.

I want a new Zelda game.

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I think they made a mistake launching primarily on a bunch of titles that had already come out on the 360 and ps3. They really should have had some strong first party launch titles. And by first party I really just mean a new Zelda game.

I want a new Zelda game.

Zelda can save you for only so long, or any other first party title for that matter.

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A decent Metroid game is what I want that isn't just Super Metroid.

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J. Reezy wrote...

Filament wrote...

I think they made a mistake launching primarily on a bunch of titles that had already come out on the 360 and ps3. They really should have had some strong first party launch titles. And by first party I really just mean a new Zelda game.

I want a new Zelda game.

Zelda can save you for only so long, or any other first party title for that matter.

Wii pretty much survived on dance games and first party games though after the novelty of the motion control wears off, so who knows? Lightning may strike twice.

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Battlebloodmage wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

Filament wrote...

I think they made a mistake launching primarily on a bunch of titles that had already come out on the 360 and ps3. They really should have had some strong first party launch titles. And by first party I really just mean a new Zelda game.

I want a new Zelda game.

Zelda can save you for only so long, or any other first party title for that matter.

Wii pretty much survived on dance games and first party games though after the novelty of the motion control wears off, so who knows? Lightning may strike twice.

I doubt it. Nintendo still NEEDED third party support on the Wii, regardless of its quality. The problem is that Nintendo alone can't provide the variety and quantity that gamers expect out of a system. That's been the issue this whole time with the Wii U and I'm not sure if only a few big titles will turn it around. That's not the case with the handheld and I can't see it working here. They don't get the support and all that "Dreamcasted" speculation may turn into a reality.

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Filament wrote...

I think they made a mistake launching primarily on a bunch of titles that had already come out on the 360 and ps3. They really should have had some strong first party launch titles. And by first party I really just mean a new Zelda game.

I want a new Zelda game.

Zelda can save you for only so long, or any other first party title for that matter.

Eh sure, it could be they've lost too much of the market share of "less casual" gamers who buy games like Zelda and Metroid (as opposed to wii motion sport plus or whatever) to make a console apparently geared toward them, and that the poor hardware specs and lack of third party support will just pile onto this.

Still, this sentiment has been stewing for a long time, gamers just can't wait to see them fail after being burned for so long by the Wii's wild success appealing to casuals. Whether gamers' ironic new champion in EA will finally topple the giant remains to be seen.

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J. Reezy wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

Filament wrote...

I think they made a mistake launching primarily on a bunch of titles that had already come out on the 360 and ps3. They really should have had some strong first party launch titles. And by first party I really just mean a new Zelda game.

I want a new Zelda game.

Zelda can save you for only so long, or any other first party title for that matter.

Wii pretty much survived on dance games and first party games though after the novelty of the motion control wears off, so who knows? Lightning may strike twice.

I doubt it. Nintendo still NEEDED third party support on the Wii, regardless of its quality. The problem is that Nintendo alone can't provide the variety and quantity that gamers expect out of a system. That's been the issue this whole time with the Wii U and I'm not sure if only a few big titles will turn it around. That's not the case with the handheld and I can't see it working here. They don't get the support and all that "Dreamcasted" speculation may turn into a reality.

I don't disagree that Wii U is in trouble, and I'm not saying that third party supports aren't important, but asides from the music and dance games, most of the big three's games from the Wii were ports from PS3 and Xbox360. People who got the wii were either casual gamers or fans of Nintendo's IP like Zelda and Mario. Nintendo pretty much survived on dance games and first party titles and earn a chunk of profit from it

However, the situtation is definitely changed since the casual crowds are now more into tablets and smart phones. I think it's a big mistep for Nintendo to keep going after the same target audience. The Wii U would definitely be a flop unless they could attract third party's support to develop AAA exclusive games for them, and that's about as likely as Neil Patrick Harris riding a unicorn. 

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Battlebloodmage wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

Filament wrote...

I think they made a mistake launching primarily on a bunch of titles that had already come out on the 360 and ps3. They really should have had some strong first party launch titles. And by first party I really just mean a new Zelda game.

I want a new Zelda game.

Zelda can save you for only so long, or any other first party title for that matter.

Wii pretty much survived on dance games and first party games though after the novelty of the motion control wears off, so who knows? Lightning may strike twice.

I doubt it. Nintendo still NEEDED third party support on the Wii, regardless of its quality. The problem is that Nintendo alone can't provide the variety and quantity that gamers expect out of a system. That's been the issue this whole time with the Wii U and I'm not sure if only a few big titles will turn it around. That's not the case with the handheld and I can't see it working here. They don't get the support and all that "Dreamcasted" speculation may turn into a reality.

I don't disagree that Wii U is in trouble, and I'm not saying that third party supports aren't important, but asides from the music and dance games, most of the big three's games from the Wii were ports from PS3 and Xbox360. People who got the wii were either casual gamers or fans of Nintendo's IP like Zelda and Mario. Nintendo pretty much survived on dance games and first party titles and earn a chunk of profit from it

However, the situtation is definitely changed since the casual crowds are now more into tablets and smart phones. I think it's a big mistep for Nintendo to keep going after the same target audience. The Wii U would definitely be a flop unless they could attract third party's support to develop AAA exclusive games for them, and that's about as likely as Neil Patrick Harris riding a unicorn. 

Good points. The Wii 2.0 design of the Wii U definitely gives you the sense that Nintendo still wanted that casual market. Even though, like you said, they've moved on to other devices since 6-7 years ago. I don't want the Wii U to be a bust but they don't have the support and catalogue needed to draw gamers like me in. So, fingers crossed that Neil Patrick Harris will be riding a unicorn in the near future.

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ShepnTali wrote...
 And since when don't Americans love their debt?


I don't know if I should laugh or be offended.

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I agree with him, but I'm thinking right now that his tweet could be less... "agressive"

Come on, he practically insulted Nintendo. Saying that some of their products is CRAP!

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Its a lol move actually

$500 at once or $300 with a 2 year subscription of $10 a month

24 months x $10 a month= $240+$300 at purchase=$540


It's interest, That 240$ might not be something someone could easily afford at once, without saving up. Versus paying the interest equivalent that 40$ amounts to. Technically, the real financial question is whether you can borrow the money on a lower interest rate, but if  you have a line of credit that does that for you, likely you can just afford the cost straight up. 

I imagine they're just going for students with this deal. 

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Possibly. I'm just under the impression that if you can afford $300 for an unnecessary to your livelihood entertainment console, you can probably muster up an additional $200 to take care of it at once instead of drawing it out over time.

But I'm sure the subscription model will help them out over time.

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Then again, I'm the last one who should be talking- my original plan to get a PS3 all those years ago went away because of its price and I ended up getting a 360 Elite down the line instead.

If I hadn't of done that...wow.