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[DaveT]

Just personal experience from the last 2 days, so indicative of nothing.  But every PUG since Thursday night, the Silver games I go into have experienced players with level X weapons, consumables equipped and a good knowledge of spawn control and doing objectives.  80% of them have been without any deaths, and never a bleed out.

The Gold PUGs have been working as intended.  People with level II weapons that refuse to put on consumables and forget that we have objectives to complete.  I haven't made it past wave 5 in a Gold PUG in the last 2 days.  When I'm having to clutch waves 2 and 3, it isn't a good sign.

I suspect that with more and more people getting maxed manifests, they are gravitating toward Silver for less stressful games.  Those of us working on manifests are the ones trying to find Gold lobbies.

[Ultimate Pheer]

Well of course. Silver players know their limits, gold PUGs Belong in bronze.

[Ohnenick]

DaveT wrote...

Just personal experience from the last 2 days, so indicative of nothing.  But every PUG since Thursday night, the Silver games I go into have experienced players with level X weapons, consumables equipped and a good knowledge of spawn control and doing objectives.  80% of them have been without any deaths, and never a bleed out.

The Gold PUGs have been working as intended.  People with level II weapons that refuse to put on consumables and forget that we have objectives to complete.  I haven't made it past wave 5 in a Gold PUG in the last 2 days.  When I'm having to clutch waves 2 and 3, it isn't a good sign.

I suspect that with more and more people getting maxed manifests, they are gravitating toward Silver for less stressful games.  Those of us working on manifests are the ones trying to find Gold lobbies.

Hey! Whatever did I do to you? U no like our Gang Bang? Dat was Gold! U no think I good playa? Me mad nao!

Was gonna FR u, but now I´m sulking... :P:P

[likta_]

I mainly play silver, and I can't confirm your observation.

[ISHYGDDT]

You've probably been running into a lot of people grinding out challenges. Remember though, Silver will make a weak player look a lot better as well.

[Salarian Jesus]

I PUG Gold all the time.

Silver is way too easy to be enjoyable in my opinion.

[UnknownMercenary]

ISHYGDDT wrote...

You've probably been running into a lot of people grinding out challenges. Remember though, Silver will make a weak player look a lot better as well.

[MasterPeras]

The best players play bronze with lvl 4 consumables

[HNNNNNNG]

I generally just play silver. This way I know I can take care of everything incase needs be. Is silver easy? Yes. But there's times I screw up.
If I'm doing gold, I'd rather do it with some mics. Plus I've had bad experience with PuGs, so at least this way, in Silver, it doesn't matter.

[Daxamite]

ISHYGDDT wrote...

You've probably been running into a lot of people grinding out challenges. Remember though, Silver will make a weak player look a lot better as well.

this. 

[ArcaptSSX]

DaveT wrote...
I suspect that with more and more people getting maxed manifests, they are gravitating toward Silver for less stressful games.  Those of us working on manifests are the ones trying to find Gold lobbies.

Usually those who complete their manifest have played a lot of plat. That's my case and judging from a thread a few days ago, i'm not alone. Non-Collectors Gold is relaxing enough when you're used to plat. Silver is too much of a cakewalk.

Modifié par ArcaptSSX, 19 mai 2013 - 01:12 .

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

There's definitely a strange cross-section happening.

The Gold and Platinum communities are the smallest of the four difficulties.

Whereas most of the last year, those communities were largely populated by higher-end players and BSN lurkers, the demographic has, I think, shifted.

More of the BSN lurkers have moved on, now that active support has ended. I don't think the community shrank in size much, since many of them were essentially replaced by newer players. The new ones exploded into Gold all at once, and overwhelmed the existing culture of "Gear up, and try your best, or we kick you."

Since most lobbies would have at least a couple of such players, kicking them wasn't an option. Leaving was, but as things went on, that accomplished little more (for most players) than to extend the time required to find a lobby.

I was starting in Gold when all this was happening, so I have less of a perspective on it, and some of my conclusions are based on the observations of others. But it seems that in Gold and Platinum, specifically, there is no numerical way to return to the days where Gold was more of a "gated" community.

While I'm no fan of kicking... I have to say it would be nice if there had been a way to deal with the issue before it became overwhelmingly impossible to do so.

Anyway, that leaves Silver as a strange mix. There are habitual Gold players, like myself, who test new kits/builds in Silver, because we're still working our way through the Challenges and Kits. There are players making the jump to Silver from Bronze. And both of those groups are likely to Gear Up, and make their best effort.

The odds of success are higher, so players in the middle are more likely to be confident they'll see a return on their investment. They'll be more willing to use consumables and gear.

Players on the cusp in Gold see a JEP as the only way to effectively replace the consumables they lost, and that doesn't help them with their Manifest. So, instead, they spend nothing, hoping to be carried to Wave 10. But, if they don't get past Wave 6, by not spending consumables or equipment, they have guaranteed a profit, however small.

Of course, that profit is coming off the strength of other players' investments and efforts. I realize this more every time I play. Which is why I'm a heck of a lot more comfortable with the idea of kicking those players than I ever used to be.

Modifié par Jeremiah12LGeek, 19 mai 2013 - 01:16 .

[SlimJim0725]

 I wouldn't know. I can't even beat Bronze. 

[Pathetisad]

Are they really good though. Or does it just APPEAR that they're good because it's "lol, silver"

[GriM_AoD]

 Where have all the good (gold) men gone?

Modifié par GriM_AoD, 19 mai 2013 - 01:29 .

[OniGanon]

^The Shrek 2 version is better IMO.

DaveT wrote...
I haven't made it past wave 5 in a Gold PUG in the last 2 days.  When I'm having to clutch waves 2 and 3, it isn't a good sign.

Geez dude you should've said something. I would've been happy to run you through some Gold games as I've been doing for a few other people recently...

Modifié par OniGanon, 19 mai 2013 - 01:43 .

[DJMarkBond]

 Hey i only play gold, im good i swears 

[Gylukios]

Have observed this too, and it's been going on for a while.

I think it's honestly the cause of a lot of bad Gold players out there. People who stay too long in Silver can eventually beat it with their eyes closed and run it reliably almost by themselves despite being in a four man team. For the more average players with not as well-endowed manifests, these players beat Silver for them. They never get to learn Silver because it is made too easy for them to ride-on.

So when Silver no longer offers enough credits to sate their thirst for unlocks (I'd guess this point comes right after the third of fourth upgrade to the Assault Rifle Thermal Scope), they move to Gold without ever having the opportunity to have learned Silver.

[k1ngl1ves]

They got tired of grinding character waves in bronze...

lolchallengepoints

[lordshenlong]

the legion has many gold and plat players, we generally avoid pugs unless we need a 4th.

[Ohnenick]

k1ngl1ves wrote...

They got tired of grinding character waves in bronze...

lolchallengepoints

Who are you and what have you done with the real k1ngl1ves?

[Dragonhalls]

everybody is good in silver and bronze

[LuckyBullet95]

Actually I believe the issue is "All that bad players are in Gold"

[SpaceV3gan]

There is a lot of great players doing Gold. Every time I come across a BSNer, it's on Gold.
But easily half of the random players you see doing Gold shouldn't be there.
Platinum is similar to Gold, but a bit more extreme on the lower side. It's not uncommon to see Avengers and Mantises at all.

I don't know what to say about Silver at this point. I entered a Silver lobby a couple of days ago and I saw 3 dudes with Lv IV Equipment.

Modifié par SpaceV3gan, 19 mai 2013 - 02:39 .

[frankles]

I play silver in the week or when I'm feeling very tired. I tend to not bother too much if everyone seems to be capable, I just enjoy a smooth game. I'll rambo if people need a bit of a kick up the bum, but I like to relax a bit where possible. I do prefer gold for a more intense experience though, and I never thought *that* day would come!

I think I still see a a mix of players, even in gold lobbies with people with low weapons and random load outs. Depends on the day I guess.