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News: Jon Jones defending his belt (light heavyweight) against the young and hungry contender Alexander Gustafsson. For the first time, Jon won't be enjoying a freakish reach advantage.

Brief history of MMA.

In 1993 a family that specialised in their own version of Jiu-Jitsu, arranged a no holds barred fighting event in Denver, Colorado. The first Ultimate Fighting Championship event, also known as UFC.
The entire event was basically an informercial about how effective Gracie Jiu-Jitsu (better known as Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (BJJ forshort)) against other forms of martial arts.
The event was a success as Royce defeated a boxer, a submission wrestler and a kickboxer, by taking them down and choking them out.

The UFC started to take off. A short time later in Japan another organisation took off, named Pride Fighting
Championship. The Japanese could afford to pay a much higher pay grade than the UFC and soon many of the top fighters around the world fought under the Pride banner.
It didn't last forever though, after it was discovered that Pride had Yakuza connections, they lost their television deal.

Today the UFC is now the biggest organisation in MMA, with smaller companies such as Bellator, Dream, Deep, World Series of Fighting, One FC and Shooto competing against them.

Rules.

MMA in the united states operates under the unified rules. That means, a non mainevent/title fight is 3x5 minute rounds and a mainevent/title fight is 5x5 minute rounds. No shoes, only shorts, no knees to a grounded opponents head, no stomps/soccer kicks to a grounded opponents head, no fishhooking, no eyegouging, no small joint manipulation, no groin strikes, no pulling of the hair/shorts/gloves of the opponents and no grabbing of the cage. Fights are won by knockout, submission or technical knockout.

The current best of the best fighters.

Anderson Silva, the former long reigning UFC middleweight champion. This guy is almost like a black Bruce Lee, his speed and reactions are incredible, and despite looking skinny his striking is lethal. Very rarely does any of his fights go to a decision. Considered to be one of the greatest of all time in MMA.

Georges St-Pierre, the current reigning UFC welterweight champion. A high degree black belt in Karate, as well as a black belt in BJJ and very effective wrestling. Though his fights lately has gone to decisions, none of them was fights were he looked out of his depths. A master in controlling his opponent and make them fight his fight.

Jon Jones, the current reigning UFC light heavyweight champion. Despite his youth, he has already defeated legends and holds victories over former champions. Very strong wrestler and known for his unusual long reach.

Current UFC champions.

Cain Velasquez, heavyweight
Jon Jones, light heavyweight
Chris Weidman, middleweight
Georges St-Pierre, welterweight
Benson Henderson, lightweight
Jose Aldo, featherweight
Dominick Cruz, bantamweight
Demetrious Johnson, flyweight
Ronda Rousey, womens bantamweight.

Retired and active legends of MMA.

Kazushi Sakuraba ®
Mark Coleman ®
Dan Severn ®
Royce Gracie ®
Rickson Gracie ®
Ken Shamrock ®
Frank Shamrock ®
Fedor Emelianenko ®
Matt Hughes ®
Randy Couture ®
Chuck Liddell ®
Bas Rutten ®
Masakatsu Funaki ®
Don Frye ®
Tito Ortiz ®
Igor Vovchanchyn ®
B.J. Penn (a)
Wanderlei Silva (a)
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (a)
Mauricio Rua (a)
Vitor Belfort (a)
Takanori Gomi (a)
Frank Mir (a)
Quinton Jackson (a)
Josh Barnett (a)

Finally, Wanderlei Silva in his glory days in Pride FC.

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Barbaric sport.

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Naughty Bear wrote...

Barbaric sport.


You know you love it.

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This is a nest of nerds. Only a minority like martial arts and only a few actively practice it (Yo I remember old thread anyway).

I don't like boxing or Kick-boxing. They're lame IMHO!
Karate and Kung-Fu players can learn a lot from each other and the combination would be great. /Thread

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Be that as it may, MMA is the fastest growing sport right now and we're seeing who's the best of the best. Check out this classic fight too.

Nogueira vs Cro Cop.

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Do you train or fight at all? Or are you just a fan?

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I'm not a professional fighter and the only training I do is regular exercising.

I'm a supporter of MMA, I think it's the ultimate form of competition and it's great to see how fighters from different background adjust their styles. Especially when we got olympic caliber wrestlers and k-1 champions now competing against each other. The old thread had a few regular posters in it too, but the thread was getting too old and some of the information I wrote in the original post was wrong. So here's a fresh start to any MMA supporter where we can chat about upcoming events, fantasy match ups or put on the nostalgic glasses and reminisce.


And as lame as it sounds, I've been thinking about taking up Judo, now that the summer is here and I got nothing to, but exams.

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I know a bunch of amateur fighters, and I have to do Combatives training which is pretty much identical to the more fundamental MMA techniques, but I've never really followed MMA as a sport.

If you like it there are plenty of gyms all over that do training. You don't have to get more involved than you don't want to or enter any fights, of course, but it is fun to learn the techniques and spar with people. It's not really the most practical form of hand to hand combat training but as you said it is a great form of technical competition.

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Love combat sports. Since boxing has taken a nose dive recently I rely on MMA for most of my thrills. I was hoping Gustaffson would take on Jones next, I think he poses a decent challenge. Also anxious to see Rory Mcdonald fight again, that kid is a monster. Silva and Weidman looks interesting.

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By the way Slim, added more fights.

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I've done very little of it but I have engaged in some studies of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu under Gracie tutelage which included learning a little bit.

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Alright folks, UFC 160 nearing. Who do you guys got?

I got Cain, Hunt, Glover, Maynard, Story, Bermudez, Nurmagomedov and Bowles.

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I haven't locked in my picks yet, but last time, Pat Healy screwed me out of an iPad.
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And now I hear he tested positive for marijuana and his win is being ruled a no contest.

I want my iPad. ;(

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I only disagree with your HW pick. I choose Dos Santos.

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Shepenwepet wrote...

I haven't locked in my picks yet, but last time, Pat Healy screwed me out of an iPad.
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And now I hear he tested positive for marijuana and his win is being ruled a no contest.

I want my iPad. ;(


I know that feel bro, he screwed me out of 800 dollars on a parley.

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slimgrin wrote...

I only disagree with your HW pick. I choose Dos Santos.


I can't go against my boy Hunto, no matter the odds ;)

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So about the UFC. My only problem with it is the large prevalence of brazilian jiujitsu users and graplling specialist in the whole thing.

I know why it's that way, and honestly I can't fault it for using such a great fighting style in their arsenals, but it does make lots of the matches seem...well, the same.

I still like to watch the matches on youtube when I can, even if I won't pay for the events.

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I appreciate Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu over just straight up brawling.

If I wanted to see a fist fight, I'd watch boxing.

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu gives me a way to watch grappling in a way thats more applicable in real life than professional wrestling, though PW does have its entertainment value. I'd pay a lot of money to watch a Triple Threat match between CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, and William Regal.

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Darth Brotarian wrote...

So about the UFC. My only problem with it is the large prevalence of brazilian jiujitsu users and graplling specialist in the whole thing.

I know why it's that way, and honestly I can't fault it for using such a great fighting style in their arsenals, but it does make lots of the matches seem...well, the same.

I still like to watch the matches on youtube when I can, even if I won't pay for the events.


Trust me, grapplers in the UFC think they're elite strikers. Hate it when two elite grapplers engage in a sloppy stand up "war".

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LPPrince wrote...

I appreciate Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu over just straight up brawling.

If I wanted to see a fist fight, I'd watch boxing.

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu gives me a way to watch grappling in a way thats more applicable in real life than professional wrestling, though PW does have its entertainment value. I'd pay a lot of money to watch a Triple Threat match between CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, and William Regal.


You might enjoy this then.

Catch wrestling vs. Jiu-Jitsu

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Damn that was a hell of a knee bar, nice.

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As far as what I know how to do(so far), besides basic movement, an Americana Armlock, Mata Leão(roughly Portuguese for "lion killer" just think Rear Naked Choke), and a Triangle Choke. (Though I need to shut the hell up about everything but that Americana and really get down to some practice)

I'm a fan of locking my legs in a figure four. You'll catch me sitting down casually in a figure four just because.

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M25105 wrote...

Trust me, grapplers in the UFC think they're elite strikers. Hate it when two elite grapplers engage in a sloppy stand up "war". 


I'd watch UFC if it was more entertaining than that, but yeah. Thats what it breaks down to, I've noticed.

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LPPrince wrote...

Damn that was a hell of a knee bar, nice.


One more for you, Renzo Gracie vs. Kazushi Sakuraba

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LPPrince wrote...

As far as what I know how to do(so far), besides basic movement, an Americana Armlock, Mata Leão(roughly Portuguese for "lion killer" just think Rear Naked Choke), and a Triangle Choke. (Though I need to shut the hell up about everything but that Americana and really get down to some practice)

I'm a fan of locking my legs in a figure four. You'll catch me sitting down casually in a figure four just because.


Nice, although I don't train I've grappled for fun with my brothers and I keep catching them in a guillotine ;) granted it's the only thing I know how to do, lol and I need to do something about my belly before I get them legs up for a triangle choke.